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Electrinium

Started by singerxyz, September 02, 2008, 05:41:20 AM

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nievesoliveras

Hi!

It Is ok. Just wanted to help.

Jesus

Drannom

Quote from: sparks on October 11, 2008, 03:13:42 PM
   I believe that nature assembles macro atoms.  They are called plasma.  This is basically huge #'s of ions and electrons that have formed a structuring whereby the electrons circulate about the assembled proton mass.  I think Drannom assembles one when he makes his pyramid crystals.  I believe what we know as atoms are just plazma children.  And the Universe is still giving birth to plazma balls like the Sun from halo shaped plazma fields of immense proportions near the assumed center of the Universe. 
   Anyway the creation of a substance that allows for a vectored flow of electrons not atomically entrapped would radiate high energy electromagnetic waves.  As soon as electrons are moving in a vectored fashion faster than light is able to pass through the same field different forms of energy are manifest.  Like the light around an atomic reactor vessel filled with heavy water.  Drannom's crystals are cool anyway you look at them.

Thank you Spark, i do not deserve so much, your theory seems to be ok for me !! crystals are a more perfect space in the chaos ! so a sort of plasma among chaostic micro plasma !


this morning i wake up with the feeling, that we have to find an easy way, without gold and platinium, so i agree with those one using the silver-iron compound, to produce that compound is not so hard, or find and old batterie silver-iron too,

QuoteThroughout this past century millions of storage batteries have been made of a great variety of materials and many of these old worn out batteries contain in the bottom of the case a sludge that is pure
Electrinium Compound.

i have the feeling that we can find a lot of way to compressed an alingned this compound, and Resonanceman is on the right track to find it !!

the easy way must be the cheap way too, so iron-silver yeah


and this quote to explain why an electrinium is not like an electret

QuoteElectrinium Compound will become
a mass of greater force surrounded by a lesser force. We can do this by combining a small positive
atom with a large negative atom into a single molecule which will occupy less space than the two
atoms occupied separately. This puts a greater force within a smaller body than is commonly
found in the electrical circuit which is composed of single atoms.
Master in alum pyramid growing crystals at http://youtube.com/user/Cristallerie

resonanceman

Quote from: Drannom on October 12, 2008, 08:46:57 AM
We can do this by combining a small positive
atom with a large negative atom into a single molecule which will occupy less space than the two
atoms occupied separately.


I remember  reading that but it  didn't  fully sink in .

Doesn't that imply that  we need to get  the electrinium from batterys or make  batterys to get it ?
I can see how  melting  2 metals  could make some of it  but for the most part I don't think that the 2 metals would combine atom  to atom  like that


gary

Drannom

Hello Resonanceman

i think the easy way is to make the iron-silver compound by ourselves, with a peice of iron a piece of silver and Sodium Cyanide in water, everyone will find it easy to do, just read the texts below


then you'll get an exact iron-silver compound from a kind of chemical battery to transfert one atom to join the other

that is the very first step, and when we will get our iron-silver compound we will have to play with it

the compression is done by the high voltage as well as the alignment, we need to put this iron-silver compound in something like epoxy, or whatever to play with it

QuoteChapter 10

THE FIRST ELECTRINIUM UNIT

Let us make a small model Unit. Let us use time-tested elements and processes already in use
today. Let us select Silver and Iron for our Electrinium Compound. Iron and Silver are being used in many of the new and improved batteries of the world. Silver will be the positive element and Iron the negative. If we could find a worn out Silver-Iron battery there would be enough Silver-Iron compound in its bottom to make many Electrinium Units. Or, let us build a small storage battery and compound our own Silver-Iron molecules through the discharge-charge process. The battery need not be large. Four sheets of Silver, size three inches by four for the positive side, five sheets of Iron for the negative using lead terminals for each side. We will assemble them in a standard battery form using separators cut to size from and old battery. A five inch square glass refrigerator jar could be the case. We can compound our electrolyte from distilled water and Sodium Cyanide, compounded to a density to provide a circuit of conductivity of two and a half volts resistance reading on the voltmeter mounted within the circuit. This battery can be fabricated very easily at a very low cost. A few hours of use will produce enough Electrinium Compound to make one or more Units.


Chapter 11

ELECTRICAL POTENTIAL OF A UNIT

The first question you will ask is, “What is the electrical potential of an Electrinium Unit?” That
cannot be answered truly until a test is run on the Unit for voltage and amperage. However, we
do have some figures from which an estimate can be made and a study of the storage battery will g ive them. We are using the same materials that were used in the storage battery, the only difference is in the way they are put together and used. During the process of producing the Compound through the discharge-charge process did your battery really get discharged or charged? Every bit of energy that left it had to return to it. Every bit of energy you passed into it passes out of it. How could it become discharged? What really did happen during this process ? By using a glass case you could watch the buildup of Silver-Iron molecules on the surfaces of the plates as it discharged, and as you charged it by forcing a current through it backwards you could see the Silver-Iron molecules as a milky substance being forced from the plates and sinking to the bottom of the case.When the plates have been cleaned of the Silver-Iron molecules in the charging cycle the battery is fully charged. This first cycle of discharge charge has completely used up the top layer of atoms on the positive and negative plates and has exposed a whole new layer of atoms ready for the next cycle, and so it goes from cycle to cycle until your plates are used up in the production of compound molecules from single atoms.
When your circuit was closed, a Silver atom, using the electrolyte as a pathway of conductivity went over the gap between the plates and united with an atom of Iron and became a Silver-Iron
molecule. This molecule is a greater force surrounded by a lesser force. This force moved out,
traveling the full circuit and returned to its Silver-Iron body. The newly exposed Silver atom
which did lay beneath the first is now exposed for action but it now faces a compound molecule
of much greater force than it contains and this greater force blocks passage and further action cannot take place until the compound molecule is removed by a so-called charging action. When the force of every Silver atom is blocked by a compound molecule the battery is fully discharged. To find a basis from which to figure the electrical potential of an Electrinium Unit let us observe a single Silver atom of our Silver-Iron battery as it makes its circuit. As it crossed the gap to join the Iron atom it used the electrolyte as a pathway which had two and half volt resistance in electrical conductivity. If the energy flowing in the circuit had been used it could have lit a two volt bulb before it re-entered the battery and returned to its metallic body. The energy expended by this Silver-Iron molecule is equal to seven volts, of which five were expended within the battery because the electrolyte must have more resistance than battery output and this force crossed the gap twice.
Master in alum pyramid growing crystals at http://youtube.com/user/Cristallerie

resonanceman

Quote from: Drannom on October 12, 2008, 03:25:09 PM
Hello Resonanceman

i think the easy way is to make the iron-silver compound by ourselves, with a peice of iron a piece of silver and Sodium Cyanide in water, everyone will find it easy to do, just read the texts below


then you'll get an exact iron-silver compound from a kind of chemical battery to transfert one atom to join the other

that is the very first step, and when we will get our iron-silver compound we will have to play with it

the compression is done by the high voltage as well as the alignment, we need to put this iron-silver compound in something like epoxy, or whatever to play with it


Drannom

I know that the  PDF says Sodium Cyanide

Any idea if other things  could be used for electrolight?

I know that  if handled wrong  Sodium Cyanide can  give off cyanide gas.


I don't think that epoxy  is hard enough or  able to take  high enough temperatures .
The  epoxy I am familure  with  can't handle anything over 180 F
Iron  by itself  is not hard enough  to make  a  strong permanent magnet ......

gary