Sabous Magnet Motor

[noname]

will nice if it really works, but unfortunately the video does not show the start like many other videos.
  The flywheel has a lot of mass, so once started and then the video taken it is hard to tell if the unit is slowing down or not; I wish we could see the start of the motor.

[yoyo]

HEY NIGHTLIFE - you have a puny mind unable to comprehend more than one concept of PM.

Your 'statement of fact' is a more a statement of ignorance!

You thinking the ONLY way to get OU from PM is self-destructive acceleration and it MUST BE SO is.... your opinion.  A stupid, idiotic one - but hey - you are entitled to it.  To state your 'opinion'  (as fucked-up as it is) as LAW further demonstrates your inferior intellect.

[AB Hammer]

@nightlife

Accelerate to the point of destruction. This can be a true statement if there are no resistance. Gravity + velocity - resistance.  Resistance / friction will regulate any speed. A PM device blowing apart is possible, but not likely unless it is built poorly. But all and all don't you think we need a runner first before we argue about flying apart. 

PS  Bessler's wheels didn't fly apart either.

[Creativity]

The problem came up because both sides speak about the different basic case.Nightlife takes frictionless environment as a basic case and then his words are true all the way.He is also right about any generator with resistance that is constant or slower growing than speed.

Some examples to clarify:
1)If we would have no resistance at all a bicycle wheel made to turn would turn for ever creating a perpetum mobile.It would not slow down,nor would it accelerate because no extra energy is put to it once started.we have a self runner
2) now 10 times at every turn of this PM wheel we it adds a constant impulse of force.With every impulse the speed of the wheel will increase accordingly.we have a self runner with higher speed
3)the wheel impulses infinite many times with the same constant force,obtaining infinite speed and destroying the wheel.A generator.

in case 1 no energy is added nor lost (no resistance).If this PM would produce any surplus energy for long enough time it will self destruct as in case 3.

With introduction of resistance situation would look like this:
4)case1 but bicycle wheel will eventually stop,as with every turning its speed is lost due to extracted energy(normal everyday case)
5)
  a)if the impulse of force at every turn is smaller than resistance ,then wheel will stop eventually but it will take longer than in case 1 to do so
  b)if the impulse is equal to the resistance we have a self runner with constant turning speed
  c)if the impulse is greater than the resistance we obtain self destructor

As we have always resistance only 5a and 5b are important to us.As u see in resistanceless theory any generator  should self destruct like in case 3.This is exactly as nightlife said,because at every turn energy is added but never taken away....

In real world we can have a generator outputting just enough power to self sustain its movement-a self runner with a constant speed as in case 5b).Clearly 5b is not producing any usefull work and addition of any load will make it to stop eventually.So in fact it is a PM and can be called a generator only in resistanceless circumstances(because it outputs no usefull energy and in definition generator is outputting surplus energy).

A real generator like in case 5c should self destruct as the force impulse is constant and it implies constant acceleration.Only extra load equal to surplus output can save the generator and make it to operate at constant speed.extra load can also come in a form of increase in resistance with increasing speed.In case when resistance grows faster than speed at some point the generator will reach constant speed because the resistance will mug it out of all surplus energy-becomes case 5b.It can be that this speed is enough to self destruct(poor design).If resistance grows slower than speed u have a self destructor.

[yaz]

Did a little searching and found a non english board with more info with diagrams and  pics on that motor (first link).

The second link has actual blueprints for a SIMILAR motor. Hopefully someone can get enough info to build a demo model. Might want to use a page translator for the links.

http://www.upramene.cz/forum/viewtopic.php?t=718&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30


http://www.elektroworld.info/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=173