Joule Thief

[Artic_Knight]

@nop

I don't know why it works but i got a feeling that having both sides of the coil about the same power makes for a greater field , not one week and other strong , if you take a magnet and kill one side all you are left with is a piece of metal , both sides are important. So to conclude the field stronger because its equal on both side, but technically weaker on one end and stronger on the other then regular , balance , ying yang

I did not lift any paper clip i don't have any !

@Jeanna

Not yet , but i will , i started working a bit , so i could keep this up , maybe find a scope and a way to get some super caps .

Also by now i know why i first i was thinking that the freq was going up when the base resistance was going down ! The sound is confusing it going higher with lower freq.

Mark

Edit i am also finishing testing this baby! Quick peek !
Its all in the coil design. Then i will reverse the winding directing at midway.

MK1 as you are doing now what i recently have tried you will find that the tesla windings are a double edged sword.

if a tesla is doing the creating of a magnetic current then yes it is truely a stronger field!

however if a tesla winding is used as a pickup it will be like a step down transformer, converting to amps at a very very quick rate.

there is no doubt it can be very useful however! 

i hope you find a configuration that i couldnt for using a bifiliar to bifiliar and bifiliar to regular i could not find a decent config that would greatly increase performance beyond maybe 50% reduction in consumption.

it did help though!

[altrez]

I like controlled experiments.
I am not sure it is time to test the fluoro tubes yet, but if you can light one and hold the light on for 4 hours=i evening / solar charge from 1 day, for instance, and you are not smiling, well,

I think it is a hot humid day in the east.

As far as the goal is concerned...
We are all different. We all have different goals even if we can agree on the broader ones, so, I don't think this makes any difference what the goal of this project is.
As a matter of fact, on page one, Pirate wanted help making and maybe understanding what the heck this thing is. And here we are 600 pages later.
I have sure learned a lot. I know a lot more about how this works than I did last December.So what?
A fluoro tube won't light to full brightness after it gets old either, no matter what kind of mains outlet you plug it into.
If I can see well enough to read at night which I can with my jtc's then why should I quibble?
They do not add up.
We have been sold a bill of goods. So now what are we going to do about it? complain?
I thnk we are doing a lot about it myself.

I personally know 10 people who are completely jazzed that they have learned how to make a joule thief and one with a secondary.
I know one of them is now using his to light his little house and read by it at night.
wow.

He and the rest of them are preparing to teach a class so their friends will all know how...

So, my question is this,
How many people can you gather up to teach this to?
We could all teach 5 to 10 people and ask them to teach 5 to 10 themselves. Why not give THAT a try?

Want some help with that scope of yours?

jeanna

I can always use help with the scope And as always much appreciated. And to be perfectly clear to date I have gave away 10 JTs with full documentation on how it was made.

And have also shown 3 people by hand how to make one and where to get more parts.

The purposes of my post is to try to take my understanding to the next level.

Take Care,

-Altrez

[resonanceman]

@ STPURE ....

YOU ARE A GOOD EXPAIRMENTER IF YOU GET A MOT ILL TEACH U ALL SOMETHING ...

OK

RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW !!



IST!

WHAT YA SAY .... I NEED SOME ONE TO GET A MOT ...   THERE INSIDE THE MOT YOU FIND 2 COILS CLOSE IN MASS LOW INDUCTANCE AND HIGH INDUCTANCE ...    HOOK IT UP  IN A 1 WIRE CONFIG COLLECT THE BIG COLAPSE ...  IN THE DRIVEING CAP ....   YOU THEN CAN CLOSE THE LOOP ...   ITS A BALLANCEING ACT ..

I HAVE A VID ON YOUTUBE SHOWING IT ....  un closed loop

BTW GUESS WHAT ....  BOOM BOOM POW.....    WILL I AM .... DROP THA BEAT NOW!!!!!!!

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7624.0

O JUST A LIL BLIND TO MY EYE .... 

EYE ST!

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How  are you suggesting  we power this ?



Just for kicks I wired up my mot  as a JT coil
On my mot there is  2 windings ......the low voltage winding is   much heavier wire than the high voltage winding ........there are only   2 connections to the low voltage .........3  to the high
The HV  has  2 white and one red .......it turns out that the red is  connected to the  core of the mot . .......
When   I  connected   the  HV  and LV coils together  with  a   jumper  then  hooked it up as  a normal JT    It fired right  up .
A cap in the tank seems to  make  it transfer more power ....... 


It must have very sharp spikes ........  with  a cap even  just  a .01 uf  my when  it is adjusted to make the array blink  I can hear  a snapping sound coming from my array
Correction    it  is coming from my  alligator clip

It is arcing

This  thing may  have  the  ability  to  recharge the battery  with no other  coils   
With the Jesus charger    the  battery voltage rises   when I adjust the pot for low  draw

It  also seems to eat LEDs     
I  notices some  of the LEDs in my array were VERY bright  the rest were either  very dim or not coming on at all .
Now after  running a while  none of them are coming on ........and  the LED on my JT board is  shot too .


gary




 

[jeanna]

And have also shown 3 people by hand how to make one and where to get more parts.

The purposes of my post is to try to take my understanding to the next level.

Fabulous!

The reason I opened the ac thread next door is to explore how to set up this jt to make usable ac power. The 2 threads next door to each other ought to make it easy to have the idea feed for everyone in all directions.

We have just begun.
Did your EE friend push you hard last week?
We are charting new territory and that is never really fast or easy.(But it is always fun.)

I appreciate the idea of well documented.
I have been trying to do that too.

good stuff.

jeanna

[resonanceman]

Thank you for your reply.  This is very similar to what I have been thinking about but only with a JT w/o secondaries.  I have 2 speaker inductor coils that I think I will need to play around with.  I am currently using the biggo coil and have good voltage coming from it, so now I need to re-change this voltage into something different!  Gary, do you think that striving for higher voltages is a good thing?  To me it does because the more voltage you can get out of a JT running of a AA the more voltage you can transform!

@ Pirate

Empty voltage!!!

What are your thoughts on this because to me and what I have seen in your experiments a maxcap/supercap/ultracap can put this so called empty voltage to preform work?

stprue

I am not sure what you mean by  striving for higher voltages .

I  think  it is good to have the knowledge to  build  a JT to provide  what ever voltage is required for the job ...... reaching a higher  voltage   itself is not  important ....... what   reaching that voltage might mean as far as  the ability to get something done means alot



I am not sure that I believe in  empty  voltage .......I  just brought it up as a possibility  that might explain what I am seeing ......the  battery    voltage goes up for a while ....then  it starts  falling 


gary