RESONANCE EFFECTS FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE

[gotoluc]

Gotoluc,  Thanks for leading me to the osilliscope that you are using I will be buying one.  With your redo of Armadn03 resonances with a coil, and two light bulbs, one within the LC and the other before the LC to show current draw.

Hi clone477,

I'm glad my tests and time I take to share is helping others. The usb scope is great when using only the 10 volts RMS or output of the FG but anything higher than that like if you used Groundloop' s H-Bridge switching 40vdc, the RF from the resonating coil is so much that it jams up the scope interface without even the probe connected to the coil. It would probably do that to any electronic devices as I found that my capacitance meter does not even give correct reading if a coil is resonating using only the feed the FG   If you looked at Tutorial 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJQvqTpBdiQ you will see that with the probe connected directly on the resonating side of the coil the voltage gets very high and that was using only 7 volts RMS from the FG. So imagine what it is at 40 volts RMS

I understood this before UNTIL you showed that different cap values actually increased or decreased the amount of current draw from the FG.  I just thought that when you put a different value cap in, and readjust the FG to the new resonant frequency of the coil, that was it.  Can someone explain why the dirrent value caps, even though they were all tuned to resonance, gave different current draw from the FG.

Sorry I can't explain that one. I found this through much experimenting

Second, Ive been on the side lines following and listening and wanted to congratulate all on the progress of this thread. 

I got really confused when this circuit came into play that everyone is getting the boards made for. 

I have Armagdn03 Pulsed DC circuit driver, will that function the same, and I assume a FG will also work well but a lower power level.  Hopefully I could get this explained also so I can get up to speed.  Hopefully this will help others also.  Thanks again Fern
Thanks guys

What I have found is a single transistor can create an on off square wave (aka chopped DC) but it is not a true polarity reversal like the square wave coming from you FG. The H-Bridge will do a true polarity flip flop of the DC input and at the frequency you send from your FG just like a stand alone FG output does. I have had no luck in resonating coils using chopped DC and a Capacitor in series or in parallel but as soon as I use square wave from the SG or the H-Bridge then I get the coil resonating if I use a series LC however it does not work with square wave in a parallel LC. If you find anything different then what I just shared please do let me know so I can test it once again.

Luc

[gotoluc]

That sounds familiar...

Video by Karl Palsness on the Energetic Forum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDWF50fUoYY

maybe not the same patant, but sounds like a similar principle...

Hi Sephiroth,

this is an interesting effect;)... I have posted this before at page 26: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6225.msg146308#msg146308

I know Karl Palsness and even went to his lab with Thane Heins last year. Great guy   and very knowledgeable.

He is a member at the Energetic Forum and here is the topic to which was also posted on page 27: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3467-teslas-stout-copper-bars-hairpin-circuit.html

Thanks for sharing

Luc

[armagdn03]

Hello,

The reason the caps change the resonant point, is because resonance is a product of two seeming opposite conditions, in this case inductance and capacitance, change one and you change the resonant point.

I would also suggest to read up on impedance of inductors, capacitors, and LC networks. Impedance is a resistance to flow and is measured in ohms, though it is not associated with traditional resistance. For example, a coil may have an ohmic resistance of 5 ohms, but an impedance of 100 when AC power is applied.

As for which circuit to use, you have your choice of methods, and tinkering with them all will teach you a lot. With the signal generator, I was using a square AC wave which is what the circuit that is being thrown about is duplicating. I also have a video of a similar effect with simply pulsed DC, but to get a feel of which is right for your application you may need to try both. When I get down and dirty pulsing resonant components, and want to use pulsed DC, Teslas Inductive collapse trick as shown in the Apparatus for the Production of Ozone is fantastic. Not only can the high self inductance coil be made to do work with its magnetic field for no extra power draw (huge ass hint, Bedini "stole" this idea from Tesla by the way) but it raises the potential corresponding to the dI/dt Faraday law formula, meaning switching times can up your voltage.

In order to get a good value HSI, I would recommend using the time constant forumlas of an inductor in order to find how much amp draw you are getting for your switching time, and to make sure you are not going over the saturation point (roughly just over 5 time constants). At saturation  the magnetic component no longer grows in the inductor, and conduction takes place. Any such conduction without field growth is loss and causes inefficiency.

There are many paths to the same goal.

Get familiar with the basics. Once you have them down, its easy to start putting pieces together and see where advances can be made. Think about it, who did the pioneers ask when they had a question! If you don't know the answer to something, try to think of an experiment you can do to give you the answer you want. Almost everything I know and have found has been through meticulous study of the different EM properties and relations, along with a finely tuned bull shit sensor

But by all means, don't hesitate to ask questions about those really tough ones!

Gotoluc,  Thanks for leading me to the osilliscope that you are using I will be buying one.  With your redo of Armadn03 resonances with a coil, and two light bulbs, one within the LC and the other before the LC to show current draw.

I understood this before UNTIL you showed that different cap values actually increased or decreased the amount of current draw from the FG.  I just thought that when you put a different value cap in, and readjust the FG to the new resonant frequency of the coil, that was it.  Can someone explain why the dirrent value caps, even though they were all tuned to resonance, gave different current draw from the FG.


Second, Ive been on the side lines following and listening and wanted to congratulate all on the progress of this thread. 

I got really confused when this circuit came into play that everyone is getting the boards made for. 

I have Armagdn03 Pulsed DC circuit driver, will that function the same, and I assume a FG will also work well but a lower power level.  Hopefully I could get this explained also so I can get up to speed.  Hopefully this will help others also.  Thanks again Fern
Thanks guys

[wattsup]

@armagdn03

You mentioned you were driving the ozone patent with an AC square wave. So since you needed to create a short, were you using a pnp mosfet (or npn connected backwards) or something similar connected to the FG. I have tried it already with an IRF840 but have found that one wrong move and the mosfet toasts probably because the current reversals are just to severe.

@all

I have an unrelated question regarding charging of a capacitor. I have a capacitor that is 88uf 1200vdc which is very very big. I use it as my standard cap tank with a diode and load it up from all my experimental outputs. Without getting into the circuit itself which is not important here, the circuit outputs in 1-2 volt increments and within about 90 seconds (voltmeter on the capacitor), I can get the capacitor charged to about 400 volts. What I am wondering is how come the capacitor is getting charged so high with only 1-2 volts.

If I use an analogy that the capacitor is a pressurized water tank and I am pumping water through a check valve and get the pressure up to 100 psi, for me to bring the pressure up to 105 psi, my pump has to able to develop that pressure level. Even if I didn't use a pressurized tank but a water tower, as the water rises, I would still have to counter the increasing back pressure.

So I am wondering why I can do it with a capacitor with only 1-2 volts rises, or is it because all I can see is the 1-2 volts but behind this simple rise are spikes that are going as high as 400 something volts.

To charge a 12 vdc battery, I need at least 14 volts so how come the capacitor is different or why does the capacitor not create a back pressure on the diode to inhibit any more voltage rise. Or have I lost my rocker and going into regression. (Don't answer the last question - lol)

[Thaelin]

Wattsup:
   On your cap charge up, the 1 to 2 volts you see is most likely on a meter.
That is how fast the meter can respond to the input spikes. Yes, if you look
at the input with a scope, you may well see spikes clear off the scale. That
is a normal for the bedini motor. Measured is around 3 to 4 but I can easily
go up to 450 on the cap if left to run. Putting a regular house lamp across it
will blow the lamp out as well.

thaelin