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100% energy saver in the market

Started by gigawattgratis, December 31, 2008, 05:55:18 PM

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pese

Quote from: nueview on January 01, 2009, 02:06:15 PM
if it workes it workes if your on the grid it is illegal if your off the grid it isn't so what are you looking for power or bills if you want bills then follow the rules is that not the agreement we make with the power companies to use there power if you don't use there power then you are not bound by there rules so whats the problem.

The normal Power saver is legat
it save 15% to 45% depend of the load.
ohmic , or inductive load .
Full effect you find at different motors , coolers , heating pumps,
and all that in it are used transformers.
This is an old good know technique.

BUT this apparatus , that let turn your counter (analog and digital)
backwards m that is 200% shiting and robbery your eleectricity supplier.
THAT is goodknow illegal. (In all countries punished by law).
Gustav Pese

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TheOne

The link I posted are legal, its does not turn the meter backward, its just a capacitor technique.

I was wondering what is the exact circuit for that, since they sell the unit at high price, I believe making one should cost at around 20$ :)

pese

Quote from: TheOne on January 01, 2009, 11:50:26 AM
Another similar product: http://plugandsave.com/

Yes this is the same
but you mus under stand : UP TO 45%  !
All others isnt´true.
Technical Description how it work is very well.
GP
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spinner

Yes, like Pese and others said, "fiddling" with el. energy consumption meters is equal to stealing. Period.
A robbery, if you like...
It is illegal action, and severely (!!!) prosecuted in most of the countries.

This "Bondee B4-88 Power saver" probably works as claimed (reducing your energy bill for a period of time).  ;)
Again, like Pese said, this is as old as the billing of the energy consumption.

"ELECTRIC METERS MOVES BACKWARD!"
Lol, it means your "house" is acting like an energy producer/source (not consumer)... In a month or two, you'll know ALL the consequences...Not just the "I got Free electricity" part.....
You know, el.power companies are not stupid.  They can add 1+1=2.  All the losses are known, and backed up with nowadays computer (and a state of the art measuring) technology (power transportation/delivery/usage/losses/bills), it's not very hard to establish an "above normal leaky" grid....

"Made in Thailand" (sold worldwide)... Yes, I'd say this "method" still works nicely in some countries...

Messing with power-factor circuits (the tips and tricks) is just one of the more "profound" methods...



Of course, it's up to you to decide what your moral standards really are.

Any capable electrician knows many ways how to "cheat" electrical companies... In many ways...
I'd say there is a certain (small!) percentage of people who are doing it right now... (Who knows how many people were doing it in the past?)



Eventually, somebody has to pay for the goods. And the power companies ARE The Business...
Any losses (recognised or not) will be - eventually - paid by the consumers....

Normally, all the small "cheaters" are usually "sponsored" by the rest of the good people paying the electricity bills...
Cheers!







"Ex nihilo nihil"

gigawattgratis

Is not my intention a member of this community buy an illegal device, all contrary, if the device is using a free energy principle, then it will be honest, the viewpoint of connect that free energy device to the power grid is other theme, but I can see here is not people of scientific spirit, is only using its imagination without test in the laboratory this energy saver for get a more serious conclusion. Only a member here propose as method used for this device an electron multiplier device created for the same company

In this web site is commented too many free energy devices, and all can be plugged to the power grid, for example, the Tom Bearden MEG, that device as too many free energy devices, needs an external power source, as a battery for start working, but in way of batteries we can plug it to the power grid and replace batteries by rectifiers, in example, let's assign a COP=3 for this device, then, if the load is of 3 KW then the power grid will see only 1 KW and the electrical bill is reduced to 1/3, the meter is not spinning backwards , only spin or indicate less than real power in the load. People here claim it is not legal, then here is a main question.

All free energy device connected to the power grid will be illegal? ( For example Rotovertex )

Is that the future of all free energy device plugged to the power grid?


Bye.


Giga