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Obama is No Martin Luther King - In Their Very Own Words...

Started by Cap-Z-ro, January 20, 2009, 07:33:22 AM

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ResinRat2

Hi Eden,

I have never defended George Bush. He was a horrible President, but I disagree with you. It CAN get worse.

My post here was on the subject of Obama's eligibility to be President of the United States. I, unlike George Bush, and apparently unlike Obama, believe in the Constitution of the United States. All he has to do is present the copy of his ORIGINAL birth certificate. I am 50 years old and I have a copy of mine. He, on the other hand, hired three law firms to keep his under wraps. Also to keep his school records under wraps as well. He is hiding the information for a very good reason.

The Constitution is the law of our land. If there are some parts of it you don't like then there are written rules on how to change it. If you decide that you don't want to follow the rules of the law then you are intentionally breaking that law. Therefore you have no respect for it. If you don't give a rats if the guy follows the rules then that's fine for you. I, on the other hand, want him to follow the law just like I have to follow the law. Once you start being above the law then the ultimate ending is the same as the Orwellian title "Animal Farm". The ending will come out the same: Everyone is equal, it's just that some are MORE equal than others.

All I am doing is defending the position that he needs to obey the law just like the rest of us.
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

Eden

if all recent presidents would have done this, we (usa) wouldn't be in the state we are in:

REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT IN WELCOMING SENIOR STAFF AND CABINET SECRETARIES TO THE WHITE HOUSE Room 450 Eisenhower Executive Office Building 1:18 P.M. EST THE PRESIDENT:

Hello, everybody. Please be seated. Still getting used to that whole thing. (Laughter.) Please be seated. Thank you so much. I wanted to get everyone together on the first day to welcome you to the White House. From our vantage point yesterday you couldn't help but be inspired by the sight of Americans as far as the eye could see. They were there because they believe this is a moment of great change in America, a time for reinvigorating our democracy and remaking our country. They've entrusted all of us with a great responsibility. And so today I'd like to talk with you about our responsibility to keep that trust. In a few minutes I'm going to be issuing some of the first executive orders and directives of my presidency.

And these steps are aimed at establishing firm rules of the road for my administration and all who serve in it, and to help restore that faith in government, without which we cannot deliver the changes we were sent here to make-from rebuilding our economy and ensuring that anyone who is willing to work and find a well-paying job, to protecting and defending the United States, and promoting peace and security. However long we are keepers of the public trust we should never forget that we are here as public servants and public service is a privilege. It's not about advantaging yourself. It's not about advancing your friends or your corporate clients. It's not about advancing an ideological agenda or the special interests of any organization. Public service is, simply and absolutely, about advancing the interests of Americans. The men and women in this room understand this, and that's why you're here. All of you are committed to building a more responsible, more accountable government. And part of what that means is making sure that we're spending precious tax dollars wisely and cutting costs wherever possible. During this period of economic emergency, families are tightening their belts, and so should Washington. And that's why I'm instituting a pay freeze on the salaries of my senior White House staff. Some of the people in this room will be affected by the pay freeze, and I want you to know that I appreciate your willingness to agree to it, recognizing that it's what's required of you at this moment.

It's a mark of your commitment to public service. But the American people deserve more than simply an assurance that those who are coming to Washington will serve their interests. They also deserve to know that there are rules on the books to keep it that way. They deserve a government that is truly of, by, and for the people. As I often said during the campaign, we need to make the White House the people's house. And we need to close the revolving door that lets lobbyists come into government freely, and lets them use their time in public service as a way to promote their own interests over the interests of the American people when they leave. So today we are taking a major step towards fulfilling this campaign promise. The executive order on ethics I will sign shortly represents a clean break from business as usual. As of today, lobbyists will be subject to stricter limits than under any other administration in history. If you are a lobbyist entering my administration, you will not be able to work on matters you lobbied on, or in the agencies you lobbied during the previous two years. When you leave government, you will not be able to lobby my administration for as long as I am President. And there will be a ban on gifts by lobbyists to anyone serving in the administration, as well. Now, the new rules on lobbying alone, no matter how tough, are not? enough to fix a broken system in Washington. That's why I'm also setting new rules that govern not just lobbyists, but all those who have been selected to serve in my administration.

If you are enlisting in government service, you will have to commit in writing to rules limiting your role for two years in matters involving people you used to work with, and barring you from any attempt to influence your former government colleagues for two years after you leave. And you will receive an ethics briefing on what is required of you to make sure that our government is serving the people's interests, and nobody else's -- a briefing, I'm proud to say, I was the first member of this administration to receive last week. But the way to make a government responsible is not simply to enlist the services of responsible men and women, or to sign laws that ensure that they never stray. The way to make government responsible is to hold it accountable. And the way to make government accountable is to make it transparent so that the American people can know exactly what decisions are being made, how they're being made, and whether their interests are being well served. The directives I am giving my administration today on how to interpret the Freedom of Information Act will do just that. For a long time now, there's been too much secrecy in this city. The old rules said that if there was a defensible argument for not disclosing something to the American people, then it should not be disclosed. That era is now over. Starting today, every agency and department should know that this administration stands on the side not of those who seek to withhold information but those who seek to make it known. To be sure, issues like personal privacy and national security must be treated with the care they demand. But the mere fact that you have the legal power to keep something secret does not mean you should always use it. The Freedom of Information Act is perhaps the most powerful instrument we have for making our government honest and transparent, and of holding it accountable. And I expect members of my administration not simply to live up to the letter but also the spirit of this law.

I will also hold myself as President to a new standard of openness. Going forward, anytime the American people want to know something that I or a former President wants to withhold, we will have to consult with the Attorney General and the White House Counsel, whose business it is to ensure compliance with the rule of law. Information will not be withheld just because I say so. It will be withheld because a separate authority believes my request is well grounded in the Constitution. Let me say it as simply as I can: Transparency and the rule of law? will be the touchstones of this presidency. Our commitment to openness means more than simply informing the American people about how decisions are made. It means recognizing that government does not have all the answers, and that public officials need to draw on what citizens know. And that's why, as of today, I'm directing members of my administration to find new ways of tapping the knowledge and experience of ordinary Americans -- scientists and civic leaders, educators and entrepreneurs -- because the way to solve the problem of our time is -- the way to solve the problems of our time, as one nation, is by involving the American people in shaping the policies that affect their lives. The executive orders and directives I'm issuing today will not by themselves make government as honest and transparent as it needs to be. And they do not go as far as we need to go towards restoring accountability and fiscal restraint in Washington. But these historic measures do mark the beginning of a new era of openness in our country. And I will, I hope, do something to make government trustworthy in the eyes of the American people in the days and weeks, months and years to come. That's a pretty good place to start. Thank you very much. (Applause.) (The executive order and directives are signed.) (Applause.) THE PRESIDENT: Thank you.

Lisa, our schedule now -- the swearing-in is going to be taking place, and the Vice President is going to be carrying that out Okay. Before the Vice President does that, let me just say how proud I am of all of you. This is an extraordinary collection of talent, and youinspire great confidence in me. I think the more the American people get to know you, the more you will inspire great confidence in the American people. All of you have made extraordinary sacrifices to be here. Many of you have brought your families here; they're making extraordinary sacrifices. But what a -- what a moment we're in. What an opportunity we have to change this country. And for those of us who have been in public life before, these kinds of moments come around just every so often. The American people are really counting on us now. Let's make sure we take advantage of it. I know you will. So thank you for your commitment. Joe, do you want to administer the oath? THE VICE PRESIDENT: Am I doing this again? THE PRESIDENT: For the senior staff. THE VICE PRESIDENT: For the senior staff, all right. THE PRESIDENT: Yes. A number of Cabinet members have already -- THE VICE PRESIDENT: My memory is not as good as Justice Roberts, Chief Justice Roberts. (Laughter.) Okay, no, I -- this is the list. Do you have a copy of the oath Which senior staff are we doing? THE PRESIDENT: A whole bunch of senior staff. THE VICE PRESIDENT: Okay. All of the senior staff -- THE PRESIDENT: Rise. THE VICE PRESIDENT: -- please rise. I will say "aye," and then you repeat your name. THE PRESIDENT: Marvin, button up your coat. (Laughter.) (Senior staff are sworn in.) THE VICE PRESIDENT: Congratulations.


ResinRat2

Well Eden, I can tell you just love this guy; but let's put it this way:

If President Obama is such an honest man of his word and wants to instill transparency within the government, then let him start with himself. Let him show us that he is a man of his word by releasing his passport history, his vault birth certificate and his applications, registrations, and grant/loan information from his college years. All of which at the present time are strategically sealed from being viewed by the public and the press.

Otherwise, he is a suspected dishonest userper who is hiding the truth; and when that truth comes out it will cause chaos throughout this country; and he himself will be squarely to blame for it.

Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

Trino Cularoid

Quote from: ResinRat2 on January 23, 2009, 04:06:41 PM[...] when that truth comes out it will cause chaos throughout this country;

So all of the republicans are not doing anything about it because they wait for the right moment to cause the most chaos?

ResinRat2

Quote from: Trino Cularoid on January 23, 2009, 06:08:55 PM
So all of the republicans are not doing anything about it because they wait for the right moment to cause the most chaos?

...and Obama has the information all sealed up because he is an honest man? Right! Then you will tell me that Phil Berg (a lifelong democrat) is an evil man because he wants Obama to show a copy of his ORIGINAL birth certificate. Right!
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.