ENERGY AMPLIFICATION

[Magluvin]

Just where the fuck do you get off? thinking you have the smarts to put some one down like that.

Wattsup has helped more,shown more,and been far more innovative/creative than you have ever been.
There is only one here !stroking! there ego--and that's you-you ass clown.

The only epic fail here--is you.
Fail to show anything of any use.
Fail to explain anything to anyone.
And the biggest fail--to think you know Tesla's work,and understand what he dose not say or show.

Whats painful to watch,is those that i consider good people,falling for your bullshit and baffle.
All you ever do is quote Tesla,when you have no idea what the hell your talking about.

Another lot of bullshit that belongs at EF,so as you and your two co-horts can write a book of secrets on mechanical,magnetic and flyback rectification--all old news.

I can show you 3 different ways-woopty-f*&king doo.

And just when do you think you earned the right to put this kind of ultimatum on any member here?

Your theories are nothing but horse shit--a continuous babble of nothingness.

Those here are smart enough to see blackmail when it's presented--as you just did.

My vote is--wattsup stay's--and you take a flying leap.

You show small parts of a system to a select few,but never show the whole picture--why.
Well here is why--because if you showed the whole system,then those in the know would soon sniff out your bullshit--and your goose would be fried.

Lucky for us,there are a few that see right through your bullshit,and so,wattsup will be here to stay,as most will know what he has done,what he has contributed to,and those he has helped out over the years--not to mention all the alternative ideas he has put forth over the years-->unlike yourself,who has given nothing at all.


Up Yours


Brad

Maybe he is trying to help others get it without having the same issues you had with your rotary transformer. So what ever happened to that?

Mags

[Magluvin]

Hallo guys, hope you are fine.
The bigger problem in this design is that very few people bother to test and experiment on. I also like to assume what a circuit does when i look at it, but in most of the instances there are issues that just can not be predicted.
Few things about what you miss here are:

1. There is no need for a diode but even if you use one the outcome doesn't change...a lot.
2. In this specific circuit the charging current is DC even if it can also  be done by using AC
3.  " currents with great electromotive force" is the key word
4. The phase between current and voltage is a condition which has to be taken seriously
5. Current's change of rate at key moments has a great impact on the operation.

But again without bench work it is rather impossible to see what is going on here. And as Erfinder said this is nothing else but the first step.

Wish you the best
Jeg

If the timing of the switching is faster than the inductance feeding the cap, then it is mechanical switching rectification. Switch to charge the cap, then switch to discharge the cap. If the cap is only charged up to the input voltage then no rectification needed unless we are just trying to separate parts of the circuit from another. But if the motors inductance charges the cap beyond the input voltage then rectification needed, mech or diode, if the goal is for the cap to hold that higher potential than the input for discharge later. If it were an ac input, then Id say the speed of the switching would be critical and would need to be regulated to switching in time with the phase of such input.

Mags

[Magluvin]

Hear, hear!!!

But what does the patent really do?

Here is the problem with the capacitor. Many say the capacitor "discharges" when H connects. OK, explain to me how the capacitor charges and how it keeps its charge, too then discharge. The problem being that during Teslas' time there were no diodes to hold any charge in a capacitor for it to then be discharged when required. In the patent, the capacitor is inline between a constantly connected positive potential on one side of it, and on the other side it is constantly connected to the working primary that is connected to the fan and rotary switch turning dc motor brushes that then goes to the negative potential. So the capacitor is always connected to the source and is never left as charged so it in reality cannot discharge any more then the source itself. There cannot be a high discharge of capacitive potential. In water terms, the capacitor becomes something akin to a low volume pressure tank or better put a small water hammer arrestor. But why put an arrestor on the positive line before the working primary? It is because the arrestor or capacitor is put there because when the feed potential is reversed again when H opens, the "let's say current" can reverse back into the working primary and because of the capacitor it lands in the capacitor thus passing 100% of the working primary and by doing so creates a change in the total length of the working primary which is the real object of the patent. How to change potential in all of the primary and not only in half of it like it would undergo if it was switched in a traditional linear circuit.

Mind play. What happens if you took the capacitor out and replaced it with a nice inductive coil or even another DC motor but that had twice or three times the inductance of the existing fan motor? So you have two dc motors running on each side of the working primary. This will do the same thing as how Tesla is using the capacitor. From the positive side, the capacitor is seen as a normal wire that conducts like any other wire will do. From the negative side the same capacitor is seen as an small expansion point making sure that anything that goes to the working primary passes it completely and slightly expanding in the capacitor. Hence the more COMPLETE the potential change can occur in the working primary, the more it will impart to the high voltage secondary. Yes it is a true masterpiece. He is basically using the capacitor as a high inductance coil in series with the low inductance working primary.

One day I would like to make an animation of the circuit workings of that patent under Spin Conveyance because under the Standard EE model, that patent is just a technical mess and most likely one of the main reasons why this patent has been so misunderstood for so long. You cannot explain it with Standard EE and maybe this is one of the reasons why Tesla made it to fly in the face of the inconsistent physics eggs that were being laid by the intellectual hens of those days. Basically with this patent Tesla found a way to beat or circumvent Half Coil Syndrome which he probably knew existed but did not have any way of discussing it because the mentally of electricity travel in a wire was so pervasive, being a false notion that relegated our effects as linear travel, but there never was any electricity travel, it was always conveyed. 

wattsup

I just explained the mech rectification in my last post.  The inductance of the motor is a large inductance. Just as simply explained in the Tesla Igniter pat. The igniter pat shows how to charge the cap to a high potential using very little input current. The large inductor is large enough that the timing of the points in the engine( in his illustration is just the switch at a particular position of the piston) when the engine is running, that the cap is at a much higher potential by the time the points switch connects. Lets say that the large inductor has completed charging the cap via field collapse. Sure the cap with a larger potential could possibly reverse its way back to the lower potential input if the switching did not occur fast enough or not at all. But field collapse currents of an inductor happen way faster than the time it takes for charging up the 'Large' inductor. So even when the engine is at its lower rpm or sluggish start, the cap should still hold a much higher potential than the input before discharging.

When the cap is discharged into the very low turn, low impedance, low resistance, low inductance of a step up transformer primary, it is now putting the large inductor directly across the input source of which gets the currents flowing in the large inductor so when the discharge switch is opened, the large inductor dumps its field collapse currents into the cap, and repeat.

Id say instead of trying to make a simulation or an animation of the circuit, try and build the circuit. It may never show you what the real thing is actually doing. And if the sim/anim draws you to a conclusion that the thing will not work for OU purposes, then i have to argue and differ with that conclusion as I could not find that conclusive.  Forget the fan, forget the motor and make it simpler with just a controlled switch and replace the motor part of the circuit with a large inductor. Maybe use a motor for the switching, but its windings would need to be of a large inductance, value, where a lot of them today may not work for this. So use a speed controllable motor to do the switching but have a large inductance in place of that portion of the circuit. Or try a dozen other ways to do the switching and no motor at all.  Could build a high inductance motor with the armature windings and stator windings in series and make it as original as possible.  That part is probably what veers people away from it as that would be most of the lot of work in the project and may consider it too difficult.

Mags

[tinman]

Maybe he is trying to help others get it without having the same issues you had with your rotary transformer. So what ever happened to that?

Mags

Have you ever seen me belittle some one like Erfinder belittled wattsup?

Have i ever said i would share something,if such and such a person stop's posting here on this forum?.

your rotary transformer. So what ever happened to that?

It sits on the shelf in my workshop,and my offer still stands--that is,i challenge Erfinder to put up any one of his machines against my RT for an efficiency comparison-->yes Erfinder,my machine you called an abomination,but also a machine you fear to go head to head with.

I am of course willing to let any ! yes,any! third party to confirm P/in and P/out measurements on my RT if Erfinder takes up the challenge--the one thing you will never !!NEVER!! see Erfinder allowing.

So-im calling his bluff,and he is yet to answer it.


Brad

[profitis]

"you do not comprehend
the patent under discussion, and it is my firm opinion
that you are only here to massage your ego, with
assistance of those who are willing to"

Hey hey don't attak the englishman just bexos his in
new york.the man is much smarter than u think pal