New inventor of a Watercar (Bike)

[pese]

... and if this baloon contain "whit spirits" = piritus , ethanol enz.
thatcan be mixed with wather ...?

this will also "burn" with a BLUE flame.


(Only to think about that possibility

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[Walter Hofmann]

Hi all
I did not have much time today, but i did a few short test with a ballon ( every test one sure) I used 10ml of water from the bubbler where i did run last time two days ago put it in a ballon blow the ballon up to the size of 6 inch with the compressor ( by the way I tested the size of the ballon how much water it whould push out of a gallon it did push around 3 liter ) then ignited the thing it did just explode like a normal ballon whould and the pieces flow away, then i used 10 ml of electrolyte from a standing cell blow the ballon up the same way and ignited it the boom was much louder but the ballon was not blown in pieces just raptured and did not flow away just fall of the ground. I probably should have used more electrolyte because my camera did not realy catch the flame. Now I need more ballon's. then I will try it again with more electrolyte maybe 50ml and also will use bubbler water after I used them.
Another curious thing was as I try to heat the pvc hose to fit over the ballone connector it gave a boom because there was probably same hydroxy still in it even that the hose was not used today and I believed it whould have evaporated. But it did not explode it did implode means the short blue flame run inside the hose for about 4 inches and di no damage.
OK this was the results from today.
greetings
walt

[Kator01]

Hello Walter.

this is quite interesting. As you certainly know water stores many gases. I have a biologist from the EX-DDR, he runs a german website called

http://www.dichtes-wasser.de/. I had many discussion upon his dicovery of the dense-water.

He told me how to drive out gases in the most effective way : Supersonic sound.
Boiling water for 20 minutes has the same results but you need much more energy and the necessary cooling-down-process must be done very fast. So Supersonic-sound is most effective.

So you prepare the tap-water first by supersonic-sound-treatment at room-temperature. Do not use hot water with a transducer it gets wrecked !

What you need is a 60 to 100 Watt - Transducer and treat it fo 15 minutes or so.

Before you do the treatment you measure the ph-value of the water. For normal tap-water here in germany for example it should be 7.
After the sound-treatment ph-value can rise up to a maximum of 11 because oxygen and especially the acid-making carbondioxid is completly gone. This is just to make sure the gases are gone.

Then you do your electrolysis and try your test again but do not use Supersonic-waves to drive the hydroxid out that would be dangerous- for sure

Ok thats it. By the way what kind of cell do you use ? Do you have detailed info on this ?
There are really some interesting discoveries happening right now. In the meanwhile I will contact Mr. Ausgustin for better ideas. I think we can optimize the storage-capacity for example by doing the electrolysis under pressure- that is the gas is forced to go into storage-position like Co2 is stored in water under pressure, which is standard-technique.

I have to find out more about it


Regards and good luck Walter .

Kator01

[hartiberlin]

Hi Kator, ultrasonic transducer to release the air out of the water and pressure to put more hydroxy into it, is a good idea. But be cautious of too much pressure, as this makes hydroxy to explode faster. you can run the bubbler hose deeper into the water, which then the water in the electrolysiscell needs more pressure to overcome the water height to press the gas through.

[mikestocks2006]

I came across this recently form a fellow named Patrick Kelly? yahoo groups watercar
http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/sK8tRViMMPvF8TGRVyacxqIRTF33ajBE90ba6kMPTR5Yz4c3b1rDSsKhSe_gws2LbktlQVMCn0G2vFFoOVhCnmfSBPx6Zp_Y-WLhOA/D16.pdf

Claims over 300 litter per min gas production from the "water splitter" not "electrolyser"
using pulse dc wave 90% on 10% off over 40Khz, avg draw 10 amps from the car charging 12 V battery system

Some nice detailed schematics I'll try to upload the PDF it self just in case the above link cannot be reached.