Legalities of selling free energy generators

[sushimoto]

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As for Sushimoto, the rules/laws in Germany do not apply to us here in the US until we become German citizens.  Here in the US, even provisional patents costs money.

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Regards,

Joe

Hi Joe,
thanks for the explanation and i fully understand your point of of view and maybe experiences.
I mentioned to be scared what happens in the US locally.
To shorten this post, i just took the sentence, which is probably most important.
Most of the described ripp-Offs are happening in the US. If you look back in history,
you may notice, were most of "American" inventions are coming from.
Rockets, nuclear fusion, combustion-engines, etc.......................
That was done by your governments and some Texans. Look what they are did to get more oil.

And as of today, look at eBay.us..
Lots of "Products" sold, are coming from public domain "OpenSources". i.E. "Drycell", etc.

Here exactly is a big point to change.
No matter, who is making some profit out of idealistic efforts,
if somebody has something, what really could change this world,
it should be spreaded Worldwide, instead of just faxing another patent to some US government department.
There must be some (slightly) hidden network, which pops the facts out in very short period of time.
Forums, press, Neighborhood, patent offices, etc.. in major countries.

best regards,
sushi

[PaulLowrance]

Open sourcing is good, but you can do both. Offer a free and simple version to open-source, and sell a more complex powerful version. I see nothing wrong with getting a provisional patent except that it cost a few hundred bucks. Sure, there will be copycats, but a provision patent will also prevent a lot of copycats. Hey, if it stops one copycat, then in the long run that will be worth a lot of money.

There are three good options.

1. Free simple version-- open source.
2. Sell a complex & improved version as a kit. The kit could be partially built. Get a patent or at least provisional patent.
3. Sell a complex & improved fully built and working version. Get a patent or at least provisional patent.

Until you can get the device UL listed, be certain to get a signed agreement from the buyer. This tip was highly recommended to me by a EE. He said that in the court of law in the USA, a signed agreement holds a *lot* of weight.

PL

[sushimoto]

Open sourcing is good, but you can do both. Offer a free and simple version to open-source, and sell a more complex powerful version. I see nothing wrong with getting a provisional patent except that it cost a few hundred bucks. Sure, there will be copycats, but a provision patent will also prevent a lot of copycats. Hey, if it stops one copycat, then in the long run that will be worth a lot of money.

There are three good options.

1. Free simple version-- open source.
2. Sell a complex & improved version as a kit. The kit could be partially built. Get a patent or at least provisional patent.
3. Sell a complex & improved fully built and working version. Get a patent or at least provisional patent.

Until you can get the device UL listed, be certain to get a signed agreement from the buyer. This tip was highly recommended to me by a EE. He said that in the court of law in the USA, a signed agreement holds a *lot* of weight.

PL

A good starter plan.
Tell me, if you need some support.
But not here. I dont want black helicopters around my house


best,
sushimoto

[FreeEnergy]

 

[sushimoto]

you people never learn do you?

PLEASE do take the time to read this, PLEASE. jesus christ!

go here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=1821.msg23272#msg23272

just in case...

I'm not talking about founding another secret organisation
like Paul Bauman or such kind of sect.
We have to learn about lost threads here and somewhere and make it better in the future.
Maybe in this forum there are buried some working FE-devices already as well as in 1million patents.
But they are buried in a lot of blabla.

know, what i mean?
besides of my grammatical lacks in english,
i know how to improve all of those failed attempts, because i am a pro in marketing on technical innovations.
I am just here to verify and i am totally clear about the facts,
why this open forum and such cannot work in the current society.
There is some reality out there
and not very much space for idealistic collaboration.


best regards,
sushimoto