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Stanley Meyer Explained

Started by h20power, March 15, 2009, 06:34:59 PM

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h20power

Quote from: MasterPlaster on June 10, 2011, 08:23:02 AMLet me give you some info to help understand Stans work.
1st: Stan had three water cells.
1- variable plate cell (non resonance)
2-multi tube cell,alternator powered (also non resonance)
3-resonanct cavity,11 tube cell (the only resonance cell)
The first two cells were amp restricting cells.They only show amp restriction and no resonance action.

2nd: The biggest mistake most people make is that they think the multi tube demo cell worked on resonance,It didn't.

3rd:The next mistake they make is trying to drive a multi tube cell with a frequency driver to find resonance.It won't work,back to 2nd fact.

4th: Another mistake people make is mixing different technologies together, 3rd fact.
This one is the bigest thing I see people doing wrong.Trying to use a VIC coil with the multi tube cell.They are two different technologies.





He is wrong and once I have the new WFC built I will prove it. I am not like everyone else as I approach this technology from the view of science and I found where the energy is coming from to power things on water as a source of fuel. But the picture I posted shows exactly what I am doing is the same thing Meyer did to his WFC exciter array that ran his dune buggy. This is something everyone over looked since they are trying to duplicate and not understanding the technology. In the photo you can clearly see that the WFC that ran his dune buggy is wired up in series. Do the math and you will see why that is important, though I did put up enough examples to show third graders how it relates to the water for fuel technology.

As seen in the photo the WFC is a part of the VIC. I follow the science not the man, the science is where one learns this technology not the patents. The patents help but don't give everything as no patent really ever does. But Meyer did tell us that it was wired in series in the technical brief on the first few pages.
Quotepage 1-1 SMTB
LC Circuit
Resonant Charging Choke (C) in series with Excitor-array (El/E2) forms an inductor-capacitor circuit
(LC) since the Excitor-Array (ER) acts or performs as an capacitor during pulsing operations, as
illustrated in Figure (1-2) as to Figure (1-1).
The Dielectric Properties (insulator to the flow of amps) of natural water (dielectric constant being
78.54 @ 25c) between the electrical plates (El/E2) forms the capacitor (ER). Water now becomes part
of the Voltage Intensifier Circuit in the form of "resistance" between electrical ground and pulsefrequency
positive-potential ... helping to prevent electron flow within the pulsing circuit (AA) of
Figure 1-1.

As you can see I am not making this up out of thin air.

h2opower actively fighting for your energy independence.

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h20power

Hi Everyone,

Here is a video I put together showing the construction of the new 12 capacitors exciter array being built, enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avtjOFc5Gdc

h2opower

h20power

Quote from: Loner on July 16, 2011, 12:29:36 AM
Very Nice Cell.  I assume that you have "Tuned" these cells via exacting methods during the build?  I do like the way the seals allow direct exposure of the outer tubes but I would think this "O-Ring" type of sealing would dampen physical vibration and alter the true resonance point.  Yes or No?

( Yes, I am still watching, learning, lurking and interested. )

I might accept that the "Resonance" would be totally "Electrical" in nature, but noticed in several reads of many areas (I have no true opinion on Meyer himself, as the info is the important part.) that separate units were used for each tube in the "resonance" build.  If all were in series, why would there be more than one unit needed?  (There were many on the Buggy...)

I'm not trying to be negative, just trying to understand...

Thanks for info, as I had thought you were one of the people that first brought that little fact to light.  Maybe my memory is failing me?

Keep up the great work...

Hi Loner,

I think you are talking about Meyer having 9 VIC transformers correct? That part took me some time to figure out. But now I got it, he had them hook up three and three, that is to say three of them where hooked in parallel and those three sets where hooked up out of phase in a three phase arrangement. Then he went and added three diodes to make it a six phase pulse going to the WFC.

Here is my reasoning on this; Voltage is pressure correct? So I give you this analogy: A pressure washer with a nozzle tip that needs a certain amount of pressure before it will allow water to flow is the same as this in a way. If one where to pulse the trigger of the pressure washer pulling it on and releasing it off over and over again the water flow through the nozzle will be in pulses as well, correct? That is what I think I am seeing since with this set up as voltage is pressure and the single phase pulsing is not holding the pressure constant to keep ionizing the water molecules in a consistent manor just like the pressure washer. That is the need to have this all in three phase pulsing with a six phase rectifier hooked up to it as Meyer shows in figure 8-11b in the SMTB. The object is to keep the voltage pressure constant so that when the pressure is enough to start ionizing the water molecules it does so at a constant rate at the voltage pressure needed to start the ionization. Since it is voltage dependent and not amp dependent when the voltages are raised the rate of ionization increases, but current draw I have notices thus far, seems to slow the process down. I have already preformed experiments on this and noticed just what this thing is doing, I am currently modifying an 8xa circuit to have three phase output should have it done next week some time as the parts for it are in the mail.

Now since the Gas Processor and the WFC practically are the same device just dealing with a different medium the same circuit update needs to be made to the Gas Processor is my thinking. Now I found a circuit in some of Meyer's photos that are for sale and that circuit has the same flip flops I am using to turn the circuit into a three phase pulsing system, I think it is titled "DistCon."

With this set up I can take the voltages up to 2k and it only draws 0.33 amps in resonance but I have six times as less the production Meyer talks about and the only thing that made any sense to me was I have six times as less the pulsing phase rate as Meyer has. For I can get burst of gas output as low as 0.01 amps at 215 volts using pure distilled water but the output is random in the capacitors. I am certain that this is due to my pulsing circuit only having one phase as that makes the most sense. Anyway that is where the science is taking me right now and I should have some results next week if all goes well.

As for it being a vibrational resonance I really do not see that working in any of Meyer's work as he holds the tubes from both the bottom and the top and no way in the world will that do any kind of vibrational ringing. Meyer also used rubber O'rings in his design so again I would go as far as to say the vibrational theory just doesn't hold up and could possibly be miss information. For just take a good hard look at the WFC that ran his dune buggy and you will see it has springs in direct contact with the electrodes at the bottom and the outer tube has an O'ring holding it in place at the top. Nothing will vibrate much under those conditions as springs work to dampen vibration as that is part of their purpose on automobiles. Rubber, as you already stated, works to dampen vibration also, so again their theory just doesn't hold up given the evidence of Meyer's design.

Hope that helps,

h2opower


highwater

h20 power. In post # 248. You saidThe vic transformers were hooked up three and three. That is to say 3 were hooked in parallel.and those 3 were hooked up out of phase. I can see and understand fron the figure 8-11b where the first three go to the outer tube. But dont understand (those three were hooked up out of phase in a three phase arrangement). Could you explain this to me better so I can understand this a little better. I am working on the alternator version now. Also if there were 9 vics in total would the stator have to be center tapped to put in 3 more vics and then put in three more off the 3 neutral legs. trying my best to understand this .Thanks.

h20power

Quote from: highwater on July 20, 2011, 12:59:52 PM
h20 power. In post # 248. You saidThe vic transformers were hooked up three and three. That is to say 3 were hooked in parallel.and those 3 were hooked up out of phase. I can see and understand fron the figure 8-11b where the first three go to the outer tube. But dont understand (those three were hooked up out of phase in a three phase arrangement). Could you explain this to me better so I can understand this a little better. I am working on the alternator version now. Also if there were 9 vics in total would the stator have to be center tapped to put in 3 more vics and then put in three more off the 3 neutral legs. trying my best to understand this .Thanks.

Hi Highwater,

If you have the alternator version you should wire it just like shown in figure 8-11 B found in the SMTB I posted some good information for you here: http://www.hereticalbuilders.com/showpost.php?p=3914&postcount=72.

For what I am talking about is the system Stanley A. Meyer used to run his dune buggy before he switch over to the injector system. There he had nine VIC transformers connected to one 11 capacitor WFC that had only 10 capacitors being used all wired in series so it only had one power input line for the nine VIC transformers too connect to. So in order to figure out just how he wired all the VIC up I look to what he had done in the past with the figure 8-11 illustrations. Now I have changed how the three VIC transformers are connected together but have to test it all out but the rewiring looks more to the point than that of Meyer's and should do the same thing just without the voltage loss I think I see with the VIC transformer set up.

Since you are going to use the alternator version note that the rpm is where resonance is found in that set up and the power going to the rotor can be pulsed but does not control the resonance the speed of the turning of the rotor does. You are going to have to put in a steady input power and very the speed until resonance is found. From there you can then raise and lower the voltage at will. You will find Meyer made a drive motor PWM that used a coarse and fine adjustments just for that purpose, and the guy's job on the back of the dune buggy was to keep it in resonance while he was driving in the early days.

Hope that helps,
h2opower