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The Master Of Magnetics "Steven Mark"

Started by Mannix, January 30, 2006, 06:18:53 PM

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crusty

Hi all,

I am new to this forum in writing but I have been reading already and trying to understand the TPU since some month.
First of all I am thanking Steve Mark for sharing his ideas and Lindsay and Stefan for the support.
And I hope the positive inspiration of Tao, Bob, Liberty, gnOstik, elvis, norbert, and others here will not be killed by some faultfinders.

After rereading the posts from Steve Mark send through Lindsay I have tried to replicate the out of phase 5U4 Tube rectifier experiment using a AZ11, but have burned up the filament.  >:(
Such a pity!!  :'(
I will get a new 5U4 and try again soon.

Was the meaning of the little increase of the current (kick) when the electrons where first caused to flow meant as an increase of the filament current or of the plate current? 

By the way I found in my opinion a very good described plan of the hendershot coil:
http://www.svensons.com/energy/hendershot2.html
or check this:
http://quanthomme.free.fr/energielibre/convertisseurs/SPM1.htm unfortunately written in French.

@stefan hartiberlin:

Can you please also add to your ââ,¬Å"videothekââ,¬Â the video where the big TPU which generates 1kw. becomes cut into pieces?
And the complete video of the early device that is not wrapped with insulating tape that can lit up two 100 watt bulbs?

I think it would be good for all of us to have the ââ,¬Å"videothekââ,¬Â of the TPU as complete as possible and maybe if somebody has a video which has higher resolution than the ones on the server maybe post it to stefan to replace it there.

Best regards,

Christian

crusty

Sorry the correct link is:

www.svensons.com/Energy/hendershot2.html

Christian

gn0stik

Quote from: crusty on June 19, 2006, 02:50:24 PM
Hi all,

I am new to this forum in writing but I have been reading already and trying to understand the TPU since some month.
First of all I am thanking Steve Mark for sharing his ideas and Lindsay and Stefan for the support.
And I hope the positive inspiration of Tao, Bob, Liberty, gnOstik, elvis, norbert, and others here will not be killed by some faultfinders.

After rereading the posts from Steve Mark send through Lindsay I have tried to replicate the out of phase 5U4 Tube rectifier experiment using a AZ11, but have burned up the filament.  >:(
Such a pity!!  :'(
I will get a new 5U4 and try again soon.

Was the meaning of the little increase of the current (kick) when the electrons where first caused to flow meant as an increase of the filament current or of the plate current? 

By the way I found in my opinion a very good described plan of the hendershot coil:
http://www.svensons.com/energy/hendershot2.html
or check this:
http://quanthomme.free.fr/energielibre/convertisseurs/SPM1.htm unfortunately written in French.

@stefan hartiberlin:

Can you please also add to your ?videothek? the video where the big TPU which generates 1kw. becomes cut into pieces?
And the complete video of the early device that is not wrapped with insulating tape that can lit up two 100 watt bulbs?

I think it would be good for all of us to have the ?videothek? of the TPU as complete as possible and maybe if somebody has a video which has higher resolution than the ones on the server maybe post it to stefan to replace it there.

Best regards,

Christian


Hi Christian, welcome aboard. I have to respect someone who reads and understands, and even experiments a little before posting anything. Sorry to hear about your tube frying. Those things are expensive these days. I'm unsure as to whether the increased current is in respect to the plate or the filament as well. I assume it meant the filament. If we had the old RCA manual that would be great. Unfortunately that was probably lost to time.

I assume this experiment from mannix's second post in this thread is what you are talking about.
Quote
I originally got the idea from electron circuits which use vacuum rectifiers like the 5U4 GB or 5AR4 etc.  The plate has a high voltage potential with lots of useable power available. You cant get to it or use it for anything without applying a heating voltage to the cathode or what is the cathode potential of the tube. So, you put in a small voltage of 5 volts AC 60 Hz which heats up the cathode and welcomes the electron stream from the plate. Or actually the other way around, but not important for this example of my thoughts. Now the high voltage power goes through the cathode and travels through the coils of the 5 volt transformer along with the 5 volt AC. if the plate voltage is not rectified then it is AC with a potential 60 Hz frequency. That combines with the 5 volt 60 Hz in the coil of the htr transformer and generally amounts to nothing. In fact the power of the 5 volt transformer amounts to nothing. It is an insignificant power supply except when the two transformers get slightly out of phase with each other, or when they are connected in reverse of one another.Then you can measure all kinds of things going on. You can generate all kinds of hash and multiple frequencies, and I do mean all kinds. What I measured during this process was very interesting. All these frequencies occasionally met at the same time with a much larger kick at the output.

I've been going back and reading steven's(mannix's) old posts as well, and although we've found some new relavent information, I think in our excitement, we have forgotten old tips that steven gave us early on. I'm still going back through to see how any of the old information relates to what we've found recently.

Brainstorming can be good and bad in this way. It can help you find answers but also make you overconfident.

@stephan, what happened to all the material you used to keep on your web site? Seemed to all disappear after january or so.. You used to have a whole section in your /coil directory.

Sad that it's gone.

oouthere

Quote from: crusty on June 19, 2006, 02:50:24 PM
Hi all,

I am new to this forum in writing but I have been reading already and trying to understand the TPU since some month.
First of all I am thanking Steve Mark for sharing his ideas and Lindsay and Stefan for the support.
And I hope the positive inspiration of Tao, Bob, Liberty, gnOstik, elvis, norbert, and others here will not be killed by some faultfinders.

After rereading the posts from Steve Mark send through Lindsay I have tried to replicate the out of phase 5U4 Tube rectifier experiment using a AZ11, but have burned up the filament.  >:(
Such a pity!!  :'(
I will get a new 5U4 and try again soon.

Was the meaning of the little increase of the current (kick) when the electrons where first caused to flow meant as an increase of the filament current or of the plate current? 

By the way I found in my opinion a very good described plan of the hendershot coil:
http://www.svensons.com/energy/hendershot2.html
or check this:
http://quanthomme.free.fr/energielibre/convertisseurs/SPM1.htm unfortunately written in French.

@stefan hartiberlin:

Can you please also add to your ?videothek? the video where the big TPU which generates 1kw. becomes cut into pieces?
And the complete video of the early device that is not wrapped with insulating tape that can lit up two 100 watt bulbs?

I think it would be good for all of us to have the ?videothek? of the TPU as complete as possible and maybe if somebody has a video which has higher resolution than the ones on the server maybe post it to stefan to replace it there.

Best regards,

Christian


I probably get some people upset by my posts but they are the truth as I understand it.  I am certain the device is real but I'm upset that they are held-back. 

A country is starving, someone develops a way to produce massive amounts of crops but the food industry buys it up so as to continue making enormous profits and having people starve.  The developer of the idea is happy, the stock holders are happy but the other 6 billion people have been forced to suffer and are in a way indirectly slaves to the food industry.  We consider this ok?  That's the same thing that happens in the free energy movement and you defend it.....

Rich

gn0stik

Quote from: oouthere on June 20, 2006, 08:27:06 AM
Quote from: crusty on June 19, 2006, 02:50:24 PM
Hi all,

I am new to this forum in writing but I have been reading already and trying to understand the TPU since some month.
First of all I am thanking Steve Mark for sharing his ideas and Lindsay and Stefan for the support.
And I hope the positive inspiration of Tao, Bob, Liberty, gnOstik, elvis, norbert, and others here will not be killed by some faultfinders.

After rereading the posts from Steve Mark send through Lindsay I have tried to replicate the out of phase 5U4 Tube rectifier experiment using a AZ11, but have burned up the filament.  >:(
Such a pity!!  :'(
I will get a new 5U4 and try again soon.

Was the meaning of the little increase of the current (kick) when the electrons where first caused to flow meant as an increase of the filament current or of the plate current? 

By the way I found in my opinion a very good described plan of the hendershot coil:
http://www.svensons.com/energy/hendershot2.html
or check this:
http://quanthomme.free.fr/energielibre/convertisseurs/SPM1.htm unfortunately written in French.

@stefan hartiberlin:

Can you please also add to your ?videothek? the video where the big TPU which generates 1kw. becomes cut into pieces?
And the complete video of the early device that is not wrapped with insulating tape that can lit up two 100 watt bulbs?

I think it would be good for all of us to have the ?videothek? of the TPU as complete as possible and maybe if somebody has a video which has higher resolution than the ones on the server maybe post it to stefan to replace it there.

Best regards,

Christian


I probably get some people upset by my posts but they are the truth as I understand it.  I am certain the device is real but I'm upset that they are held-back. 

A country is starving, someone develops a way to produce massive amounts of crops but the food industry buys it up so as to continue making enormous profits and having people starve.  The developer of the idea is happy, the stock holders are happy but the other 6 billion people have been forced to suffer and are in a way indirectly slaves to the food industry.  We consider this ok?  That's the same thing that happens in the free energy movement and you defend it.....

Rich

I have to disagree man. Nobody's out there killing people that are inventing ways to feed the hungry. I think that's an unfair comparison. If you give someone food, there's not much of a chance that they will misuse it and kill themselves or others accidentally, or start a fire, or worse.. They just eat it. There is a danger factor here.

Another aspect is propagation and understanding of the technology. If you just give someone donated food from a farm, they eat for a little while.. But if you give them chickens and teach them how to raise them, they have eggs and meat forever, and fertilizer for their fields. And they can teach others how to raise chickens. That's all Steven is trying to accomplish.

An argument can be made that the need is too great. Just give us the damn chickens and we'll figure out how to raise them ourselves. Well when hungry people get ahold of chickens what do they do? They eat them right away. Nothing is left to raise. No fertilizer, no eggs... just bones and feathers left over.

If Steven just gave us this technology without showing how it works, what lasting legacy would he have given us? After the websites that have instruction on them are shut down, and the devices taken from us, what do we have? Can we rebuild then? Probably not, as we didn't know how it worked to begin with.

As frustrating as it is, Steven is doing the right thing. I just hope he doesn't stay away from the many for the misgivings of the few. Although this place has it's faults (what group doesn't) this is probably one of the safest places to share it. We are all believers here. Albeit, sometimes misguided ones.