Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

[skippy]

Hello, 

Great concept model dusty.  I have an idea about what might be missing. (Why the weights won't make it all the way through one cycle)  To over come gravity acceleration is needed.  In fact Sjack, talks about acceleration in this diagram. (The green acceleration lines) It seems he deliberately left this part of the mechanism out of his patent application.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Image:Abeling_Weight_Path.jpg

If you look at some of the still pictures taken out of Sjack's movies, the wooden prototype has several symmetrical holes evenly spaced around it. They are illustrated in this drawing.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Image:Abeling_Wheel_Side_Drawing.jpg

I have attached a hand drawn diagram that was sent to me years ago in an E-mail. I don't remember by whom, or even if I had requested the diagram in the first place.  It was almost like I got an E-mail that was meant for someone else. This hand drawn sketch illustrates a mechanical concept that at certain degrees of rotation could provide a lot of acceleration to the weights in this machine. I built a small model of this concept several years ago, and was amazed at the swiftness that the device moves at when the critical angles are reached. The two arms in the diagram (some might even call them warped boards) might be engineered to lift the weight in your machine both to the center axle, and back to the rim very violently and very quickly,  providing the acceleration to push the machine through one full cycle.

                                                                    Skippy

                                                                                     

[Tink]

How about using at least 8 weights?

(Harti, I can only reply when I press the "quote" icon, because there is no reply icon (button) in any post left after the last update. Is it just me because I use Linux and Mozilla?)

[mondrasek]

Just thinking out loud: If Abeling is using springs where would he put them?

AquariuZ, you may remember this:  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7150.msg169744#msg169744  Stefan posted a screen shot a page or two later.  I gave this idea (too early I think) because it was the next logical step in the investigation of the Abeling web page and video as far as I could tell:  How to collect energy in the lower left of the wheel and use it to accelerate the weights in the upper left?

This was just a rough idea how a spring could be loaded in the lower left and then be allowed to release in the upper right.  Of course this doodle was just "food for thought" and not intended as a full working concept.

I did not pursue this idea further since it should fail for the same reasons:  Energy into the spring = energy out.  So we still do not have additional energy.

The mental search for an energy surplus brought about the idea that the weights could be spinning and possibly have gyroscopic effects that could somehow be useful.  I still have not research gyros enough to satisfy my own questions, but the concept of precession is what I think might be useful.  The gyro concept is not a way to add or gain energy in the wheel cycle.  But precession in a gyro causes forces not to act in equal and opposite directions.  Instead they are equal and at 90 degrees.  Could this be useful?  I'll study it more when I can.

This has been posted several times before.  Those interested in gyros should check out:  http://www.gyroscopes.org/1974lecture.asp

M.

[AquariuZ]

AquariuZ, you may remember this:  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7150.msg169744#msg169744  Stefan posted a screen shot a page or two later.  I gave this idea (too early I think) because it was the next logical step in the investigation of the Abeling web page and video as far as I could tell:  How to collect energy in the lower left of the wheel and use it to accelerate the weights in the upper left?

This was just a rough idea how a spring could be loaded in the lower left and then be allowed to release in the upper right.  Of course this doodle was just "food for thought" and not intended as a full working concept.

I did not pursue this idea further since it should fail for the same reasons:  Energy into the spring = energy out.  So we still do not have additional energy.

The mental search for an energy surplus brought about the idea that the weights could be spinning and possibly have gyroscopic effects that could somehow be useful.  I still have not research gyros enough to satisfy my own questions, but the concept of precession is what I think might be useful.  The gyro concept is not a way to add or gain energy in the wheel cycle.  But precession in a gyro causes forces not to act in equal and opposite directions.  Instead they are equal and at 90 degrees.  Could this be useful?  I'll study it more when I can.

This has been posted several times before.  Those interested in gyros should check out:  http://www.gyroscopes.org/1974lecture.asp

M.

The AbelingMO model, I missed that. Have it now and will play with it for a while because I like the concept. He did say that acceleration is generated in the lower left part of the wheel.

With regards to the gyroscopes, please have a look at the Hayasaka-Takeuchi thesis where the claim is a mass reduction in gyroscopes under certain circumstances.

http://www.earthtech.org/experiments/tajmar/papers/p2701_1.pdf

If this mass reduction is a phenomenon in spinning bodies in general I think there is something here. Even Tesla did something extraordinary back then with a copper egg:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=item31

AZ

[Omnibus]

@All,

Check this out. If I haven't overlooked something then that's it. And, let me add, if that's it then @eisenficker2000 rulez!