Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

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@AquariuZ,

I just spoke with Sjack Abeling. He told me something to the effect that he is bound by a contract with his investors which does not allow him to show the motor to the outside world. All the information about his motor at this point can be obtained only from his website. He said that he's expecting to say more about the project in the coming months. I was curious as to whether his machine can be scaled down to a laboratory model but as far as I understand they only have the powerful ones geared toward industrial production. I wished him success in his undertaking and he agreed to give him a call in a month or two when he'll probably be allowed to say more about the project.

That was in essence our conversation and, as you see, investors are again standing in the way of science. A similar situation occurred with Mike Brady (Perendev) a couple years ago. I had several conversations with him to arrange a visit but in the end his lawyers decided the motor shouldn't be shown to anyone. If you remember he canceled a scheduled presentation. Same thing happened with Steorn -- I actually went to London to see the demo at Kinetica museum only to find out it's been canceled. One other place, except for Finsrud's machine in Oslo, where I saw a demonstration was in Novi Sad where Veljko Milkovic.showed me his device which isn't a self-runner unfortunately. Wonder what happened to Bob in Canada. His was the first modern gravity driven motor claimed to be demonstrable. I think Stefan was in contact with him but don't know if there's any development there.

[AquariuZ]

Great designs !

Okay, let the WM2D files coming, so we all can work on it.

Maybe we just call it some kind of modified Bessler wheel.

It seems this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8QK8w2sw8Y

will work the best , when it is using the centrifugal forces,
so it needs at least a good speed.
Running too slow and it will not work.

Does anybody see a reason, why this should not work ?

Regards, Stefan.

Hi Stefan, can you please comment on my concept guess (page 7 I believe) it includes a crude wm2d model.

Even though this thread is about the Abeling Wheel, the possible overlaps with Cherryman's KAD and the core principle (the barrier) seem to be the only way to get the "D" shape as discussed on the previous page.

I think we should take that very specific path of the weight as it rotates with the wheel and gets "shot-putted" (Term: Abeling) and concentrate on that in trying to reproduce the Abeling Wheel.

I really like cherrymans models, and am working on another abeling concept guess using some of cherryman's ideas.

[AquariuZ]

@AquariuZ,

I just spoke with Sjack Abeling. He told me something to the effect that he is bound by a contract with his investors which does not allow him to show the motor to the outside world. All the information about his motor at this point can be obtained only from his website. He said that he's expecting to say more about the project in the coming months. I was curious as to whether his machine can be scaled down to a laboratory model but as far as I understand they only have the powerful ones geared toward industrial production. I wished him success in his undertaking and he agreed to give him a call in a month or two when he'll probably be allowed to say more about the project.

That was in essence our conversation and, as you see, investors are again standing in the way of science. A similar situation occurred with Mike Brady (Perendev) a couple years ago. I had several conversations with him to arrange a visit but in the end his lawyers decided the motor shouldn't be shown to anyone. If you remember he canceled a scheduled presentation. Same thing happened with Steorn -- I actually went to London to see the demo at Kinetica museum only to find out it's been canceled. One other place, except for Finsrud's machine in Oslo, where I saw a demonstration was in Novi Sad where Veljko Milkovic.showed me his device which isn't a self-runner unfortunately. Wonder what happened to Bob in Canada. His was the first modern gravity driven motor claimed to be demonstrable. I think Stefan was in contact with him but don't know if there's any development there.

Thanks for that, I hope you have gotten a better picture of him at least.

And ofcourse we will lose the invention to Corporate unless we work together and reproduce, even though there is not much to go on but the words on the site and the scarse video footage.

I believe we can do it though, even if that seems wishful thinking. Abeling has left a lot of clues, the major one being the path of the weights.

With that:
"D" path
Dumbbells (unless someone has a better idea)
Barrier (Curved or not)
16 slots consisting of two types which look like boots
wheel consisting of two identical layers

We can go far. Have another look at the path (Taken from the video and overlaid with text by me)

[Cherryman]

Thanks for that, I hope you have gotten a better picture of him at least.

And of course we will lose the invention to Corporate unless we work together and reproduce, even though there is not much to go on but the words on the site and the scarce video footage.

I believe we can do it though, even if that seems wishful thinking. Abeling has left a lot of clues, the major one being the path of the weights.

With that:
"D" path
Dumbbells (unless someone has a better idea)
Barrier (Curved or not)
16 slots consisting of two types which look like boots
wheel consisting of two identical layers

We can go far

Hey Aquarius,

From what i can make of you're model.. I think in your design the friction and the weight to get the dumbbell upwards the steep path is maybe too much.  On the other hand.. i do like the concept..  It rises fast and straight..  But with large weights..   This would be a brutal machine...  How can you make that from glass??

So i guess the solution must be in a smoother path..  without to many "impact" moments.

Just my two cents

Keep up the good work!

[Cherryman]

When i look at the video footage , and see that he has different "pockets" at the outside ..

Could it be that going upwards they weights are in the round "pockets" and downwards in the oval pockets?  Or vice versa?...

Maybe there is only a very small D-shape, but to contrast the principle they present it as a D ?

Wat do you think?