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Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

Started by AquariuZ, April 03, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

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Cherryman

The most interesting about the picture of Sjack is that he has 9 weights on the "going down" side and 7 at the "going up" side..     At first i did think it was just a simplified picture of the trajectory of the balls... But the 16 balls are equal to the number "16" on the video..

Puzzles , puzzles..   ;D

Alexioco

also it seems to me that by having the weights rise up in a straight line rather than up to the axle and around, the weights are taking a shortcut to get to the top meaning less energy?
If the weights raised up at the same speed as the ascending side of the wheel, then i think the weights would be travling faster than the wheel when they lift because the wheel area by the axle is moving slower than the outside of the wheel...

Edit: Thinking about it, if the weights take that shortcut up (straight) then less weights rise as more weights fall

Alex
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Cherryman

Quote from: Alexioco on April 08, 2009, 04:20:10 PM
also it seems to me that by having the weights rise up in a straight line rather than up to the axle and around, the weights are taking a shortcut to get to the top meaning less energy?
If the weights raised up at the same speed as the ascending side of the wheel, then i think the weights would be travling faster than the wheel when they lift because the wheel area by the axle is moving slower than the outside of the wheel...

Edit: Thinking about it, if the weights take that shortcut up (straight) then less weights rise as more weights fall

Alex

Yes Alex, that is true, you can see it in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBygA2vOHx4&feature=channel_page

As you can see the ball accelerates and leaves the bottom of the swing arm when it is going up the ramp = shorter route.


AquariuZ

Quote from: Cherryman on April 08, 2009, 03:50:28 PM
The most interesting about the picture of Sjack is that he has 9 weights on the "going down" side and 7 at the "going up" side..     At first i did think it was just a simplified picture of the trajectory of the balls... But the 16 balls are equal to the number "16" on the video..

Puzzles , puzzles..   ;D

Nice  :o

AquariuZ

BREAKTHROUGH

I have just realized something.

What if there are moving weights and static weights moving up into position ONE SHOT AT A TIME.

No need for explosive action all the way up, just kinetic transfer..

I´ll try and explain: Remember the little toy where you have 6 steel balls suspended from a wire and you take one, let it fall and the last one on the other side gets shot-putted?

THIS IS IT.

The holes on the side are to stack the weights inside a holding system which is placed just left of the axle. (Pre-start) The placeholder is for 7 dumbbells.
The other nine dumbbells are then loaded at the following positions

13:00 weight number 1 of 16
13:30 weight number 2 of 16
14:00 weight number 3 of 16
14:30 weight number 4 of 16
15:00 weight number 5 of 16
15:30 weight number 6 of 16
16:00 weight number 7 of 16
16:30 weight number 8 of 16
17:00 weight number 9 of 16

Now visualize 7 stacked dumbbells in a holder just to the left of the axle.

[WEIGHT NUMBER 16 OF 16] <-- TOP OF STACK
[WEIGHT NUMBER 15 OF 16]
[WEIGHT NUMBER 14 OF 16]
[WEIGHT NUMBER 13 OF 16]
[WEIGHT NUMBER 12 OF 16]
[WEIGHT NUMBER 11 OF 16]
[WEIGHT NUMBER 10 OF 16] <-- BOTTOM OF STACK

They are stacked and in direct contact with each other

Weight 10 is just up and to the left of the six o clock socket
Weight 16 is just below and to the left of the twelve o clock position

THIS IS EXACTLY WHERE HE DESCRIBES THE ACTION IN THE FAQ

Let go of the wheel or push it.

the 17:00 weight moves to 18:00, leaves its socket when it encounters the barrier/holder and then makes a direct hard contact with weight number ten, which is on the bottom of the stack. The kinetic energy is transferred all the way to weight number 16 which is on top of the stack and forces weight number 16 into the holding socket at around 12:30.

Weight number 16 becomes weight number one.

I just slapped my forehead, because he did say "Kogelstoten". Shot-put did not mean anything to me but you can compare "Kogelstoten" to a Jeux-de-boules ball violently displacing another ball and taking its place.

Cherryman your 7-9 remark just now removed the cogwebs from my brain, thank you my friend.

This I can indeed make a model of, I am getting excited now.

O, you noticed? (Clicking on WM.EXE)

;D