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Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

Started by AquariuZ, April 03, 2009, 01:17:07 PM

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i_ron

Quote from: Grimer on April 13, 2009, 10:35:45 AM
I predict that all computer modelling will be unsuccessful since it uses the laws of mechanics as we know them.


Exactly!  garbage in equals garbage out.

But then I failed at learning auto cad and am 'limited' to cut and try, LOL

Some good posts Sir, a bit fanciful perhaps but no argument from here.

Ron

eisenficker2000

Computer models are there to simulate reality, after being calibrated and checked by measurements off the practical outcome of the real system, in the real world.

Is Abelings "demo-barn" wheel without weights the real stuff or just an illustration?
Is the patent on purpose misleading, having an Easter egg full of promise without practical functionality?

Patents enough....without working guarantees.
I like the idea of patent, but before allowing it to be registered, it should be technically proven to work, in my simple opinion. And  more wishfull thinking  ::)

i_ron

Quote from: noonespecial on April 12, 2009, 10:34:25 PM
Hi Ron,

Nothing in here about a 'scissor' action. In fact, if there were a scissor action it would seem the additional friction would simply slow the wheel down. Instead, the propelled weight is 'moving faster than the system' (once a critical speed is reached) through the effect of centrifigal force.

Charlie

But the weight and axle are moving from 6 o'clock to 12 o'clock in "nearly" a straight line, where is
the centrifugal force?

Looking at the motion from 9 o'clock to 12...the slot width is maintained at the width of the axle,
until the final moment, when because of the hook in the slot the width of the resultant slot closes
off, pinches off, scissors off...spitting the axle out with force, allowing the slow moving axle to
catch up with the fast moving catch pocket!

Ron



noonespecial

Quote from: i_ron on April 13, 2009, 11:34:29 AM
But the weight and axle are moving from 6 o'clock to 12 o'clock in "nearly" a straight line, where is
the centrifugal force?

Looking at the motion from 9 o'clock to 12...the slot width is maintained at the width of the axle,
until the final moment, when because of the hook in the slot the width of the resultant slot closes
off, pinches off, scissors off...spitting the axle out with force, allowing the slow moving axle to
catch up with the fast moving catch pocket!

Ron

Hi Ron,

I was just keying off of his comment that the weights are alledgedly "moving faster than the system".  Again, if what you say is true, then in my opinion this is nothing more than yet another unproven overbalanced wheel assuming there is nothing unique to this design.

Charlie


AB Hammer

Quote from: noonespecial on April 13, 2009, 12:24:44 PM
Hi Ron,

I was just keying off of his comment that the weights are alledgedly "moving faster than the system".  Again, if what you say is true, then in my opinion this is nothing more than yet another unproven overbalanced wheel assuming there is nothing unique to this design.

Charlie



Greetings Charlie

That is one of the reasons I posted one of my old designs. For if the Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel, would work. Mine would as well. IMO Here is the link to my string with some written improvements for it, if someone wanted to build it. It was on my list to build one day when I didn't have a better design to try. So why not post it on its own string. I feel it has a better than average chance but the average of the over balanced wheel stinks. LOL
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7235.0;topicseen

Don't get me wrong, I am interested in how the Sjack Abeling gravity wheel truly comes out, and I hope for the best. But I am not good at simulations either, so I can't be of much help in that field.
With out a dream, there can be no vision.

Alan