Sjack Abeling Gravity Wheel and the Worlds first Weight Power Plant

[Omnibus]

You pay far too much attention to mathematics Omnibus,

The test of a system is experiment, nothing else!

When this is done mathematics can be pulled in to create an analogy to what is happening in the real world.

But that is all it is!

I am not saying mathematics is useless, far from it, but you must bear in mind it is only an explanation of the phenomenon, not the phenomenon itself.

Hans von Lieven

No, no, don't get me wrong. Far from it. I've always insisted physics makes mathematics, not vice versa. In this case, however, equations describing the phenomena at hand are claimed to have been pretty well studied. However, I'm not excluding the possibility that even these allegedly so well studied equation may yield something unexpected. It's for a physicist to look at the solution, though, because a mathematician, being a poet in science, usually tends to be carried away and would be satisfied by the beauty of the equation, never mind that it doesn't make physical sense. Some physicists are falling into this trap, unfortunately, and that has to change.

[hansvonlieven]

Yes Omnibus,

there are a number of so called patents on the loose about this sort of thing. Frankly I don't think patent offices care anymore. As long as the prescribed wording is OK they will issue a patent. No-one checks, no-one cares about anything other than the fees.

For instance, just about anything Milkovic has patented was patented in the 1920's by George Constantinesco. Evidently the Serbian patent office is totally oblivious of that fact.

The Dutch patent office does not seem to be any better, nor is the USPTO.

The whole system appears to have become a lawyer's scam

Hans von Lieven

[hansvonlieven]

No, no, don't get me wrong. Far from it. I've always insisted physics makes mathematics, not vice versa. In this case, however, equations describing the phenomena at hand are claimed to have been pretty well studied. However, I'm not excluding the possibility that even these allegedly so well studied equation may yield something unexpected. It's for a physicist to look at the solution, though, because a mathematician, being a poet in science, usually tends to be carried away and would be satisfied by the beauty of the equation, never mind that it doesn't make physical sense. Some physicists are falling into this trap, unfortunately, and that has to change.

LOL Omnibus, I like the poet bit 

Hans

[Grimer]

I see that I am in good company is proposing a gravitational wind that is blowing steadily downwards. None other than that canonised scientific saint, Newton himself. 

"Remarkably, Newton himself does not seem to have ruled out the possibility of a perpetual motion machine. It is a little known fact that in his early notebooks under the heading "Quaestiones"[sic] Newton speculates that gravity (heaviness) is caused by the descent of a subtle matter which strikes all bodies and carries them down. "Whither ye rays of gravity may bee stopped by reflecting or refracting ye, if so a perpetual motion may bee made one of these two ways." Adjacent to these words, Newton added two sketches of perpetual motion powered by the "flux of the gravitational stream".

[hansvonlieven]

@ Hans

Do you think I should start another thread, perhaps take it over to Besslerwheel ?

There is already such a thread at besslerwheel Mindsweeper.

Hans