MylowHJ Replication - Discussion

[hansvonlieven]

By definition a stator is fixed and a rotor moves. A stator that moves is not a stator.

Hans von Lieven

[infringer]

Tandem as you put it causes more friction on the rotation of the disc ...


If you really want something to try buy some carbon fiber and polyester resin and hardener off ebay cut out your circle and harden it up...

The lighter you make the disc or magnetic rotor the less friction you will have ...

I dunno what is the gig with keeping everything aluminum other then the fact it is cheaper and light weight ...

Good luck just a suggestion take it for what its worth.

Honsvonlevin got it correct...

Think of rotor as short for rotation and stator short for stationary this is how I always remember the two!

And I almost wonder if the people who named it did not vision the same thing?

[hansvonlieven]

Tandem as you put it causes more friction on the rotation of the disc ...

There is not necessarily much of an increase in friction if both disks are mounted one above the other on the same shaft. I only drew it that way because the principle is easier to see. In fact there could be multiple disks.

Hans von Lieven

[Michelinho]

Hi,

Howard Johnson's Stonehenge motor does not rotate a disk but it rotates the stator as in Mylow's and Queue's replications.

It rotates what Mylow's and Queue's replication use for their stator. Sorry if my phraseology was confusing. I am a diesel mechanic with 35 years experience, so I know what is a stator and what is a rotor. English is a second language for me and I am sorry if I did not express myself clearly.

Howard Johnson used wood and aluminum as basic ingredients along neos, ceramics and flexible magnets in the Stonehenge motor. The aluminum disk used by Mylow might be just the ingredient needed to do away with the complex magnet arrangement used by the defunct HJ as it may induce currents that creates a magnetic harmonization of the fields involved in his rotor. Horseshoe magnets are something special that more people should be familiar with.

Take care all,

Michel

[Grimer]

G'day all,

As most of you know I have always been suspicious of the Mylow device. The attempt at replication that did impress me was the Queue replication. There is definite movement there from cluster to cluster.

Having said this, I strongly suspect there will be problems as he attempts to close the circle as it were.

Perhaps there is a way around it. I propose to split the system in two and have them operate in tandem. Below is an illustration of what I mean.

I have drawn the two disks side by side, though in a real motor they would probably sit on the same shaft one above the other.

Something to think about perhaps.

Hans von Lieven

I think that is very ingenious.

Congratulations.

Indeed one could extend the idea to multiple disks. Then each of the disks which was away from its gap would only have to contribute a small amount to the gapped disc to get it past its sticking point.

Ideally all the discs would be on the same shaft and well separated so as to prevent magnetic interaction between discs. But so what if we finish up with the proverbial ten foot pole. The first job is to illustrate a point of principle, i.e, that one can get continuous rotary motion out of a lot of magnets. Bells and whistles can come later.

Edit: I'm glad to see you approve of my suggestion of multiple disks and have modified your post accordingly.  .