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MylowHJ Replication - Discussion

Started by wattsup, April 04, 2009, 08:49:58 PM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: chrisC on May 04, 2009, 06:33:23 PM
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Too bad...


@TK:
I think you're right in doing the replication correctly and backed up with scientific data. We'll be even more excited if you can truly and independently verify MyLow's discovery is no AQ phenomena!

cheers
chrisC

Mee too, because I will be vewwy vewwy rich, and I won't be bothering you all any more.

Here's an example of the rough graph output of my latest toy, the Chimpo tacho. Just a screenshot, not a processed graph. The left axis is RPM x 3.8 (I get higher resolution at slow speeds that way). A powered runup of a blank mylow disk, no magnets. At about 620 seconds, I position an Alnico horseshoe stator magnet in just about exactly the position of one of Mylow's stators, a bit over 2 1/2 inches above the disk, pointing down. Then at about 710 I remove it. Then I pull the motor drive away from the wheel and let it rundown on its own. You can really tell a lot from these graphs. See the impulses from the clutch at the acceleration end? And the nice rundown curve--I think I've proved that air resistance goes as the square of velocity while bearing friction is linear, as is eddy current drag.

Now, I meant to address the replication issue earlier but I forgot (my how I ramble.) I could produce an exact replication down to the fraction of a millimeter and a tenth of a Gauss, and if it did NOT work, it would still NOT disprove MyLOW. That's the difficulty with this work. What is necessary is to get one's hands on a working unit, by whatever means necessary (ie simulate it if nothing else) and then determine, by careful experimentation, why it does work and how to break it. OTOH, one can definitely apply logic and critical thinking, and see if what is claimed, is consistent internally and externally. It is here that MyLOW's story fails, and until he provides us with a working model to test, or has it tested independently, or one of us hits the (nonexistent, I maintain) jackpot, we can't really go much further.

TinselKoala

Can somebody please tell Stefan that his new format is all screwed up and doesn't format the page properly anymore?

chrisC

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 04, 2009, 06:57:24 PM
Mee too, because I will be vewwy vewwy rich, and I won't be bothering you all any more.

Here's an example of the rough graph output of my latest toy, the Chimpo tacho. Just a screenshot, not a processed graph. The left axis is RPM x 3.8 (I get higher resolution at slow speeds that way). A powered runup of a blank mylow disk, no magnets. At about 620 seconds, I position an Alnico horseshoe stator magnet in just about exactly the position of one of Mylow's stators, a bit over 2 1/2 inches above the disk, pointing down. Then at about 710 I remove it. Then I pull the motor drive away from the wheel and let it rundown on its own. You can really tell a lot from these graphs. See the impulses from the clutch at the acceleration end? And the nice rundown curve--I think I've proved that air resistance goes as the square of velocity while bearing friction is linear, as is eddy current drag.

Now, I meant to address the replication issue earlier but I forgot (my how I ramble.) I could produce an exact replication down to the fraction of a millimeter and a tenth of a Gauss, and if it did NOT work, it would still NOT disprove MyLOW. That's the difficulty with this work. What is necessary is to get one's hands on a working unit, by whatever means necessary (ie simulate it if nothing else) and then determine, by careful experimentation, why it does work and how to break it. OTOH, one can definitely apply logic and critical thinking, and see if what is claimed, is consistent internally and externally. It is here that MyLOW's story fails, and until he provides us with a working model to test, or has it tested independently, or one of us hits the (nonexistent, I maintain) jackpot, we can't really go much further.

Well, wouldn't we have saved hundreds of threaded pages and thousands of hours of debate if MyLow had given you his disk!
That's the real world unfortunately and people are uniquely different at how they see and react. Keep more coming!

cheers
chrisC

chrisC

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 04, 2009, 07:00:08 PM
Can somebody please tell Stefan that his new format is all screwed up and doesn't format the page properly anymore?

Yes I agree. My Sony laptop is 1600 pixel across and I use Chrome and the  photo. attachments don't show up!

Also, I told Stephan that the Orange/Red is really too harsh on the eyes.
That's just my opinion.

cheers
chrisC

TinselKoala

Quote from: chrisbis36@yahoo.com on May 04, 2009, 05:21:52 PM
@ Tinsel Koala/ Al

Looked again, with larger screen and u 'Whats that at 7.71-7.53

I think its the split of the moulding on his large television  base thats in the corner- a piece of the fascia i think.
its got definate curved shape to it.

well spotted tho hawk-eye.

Hmmm---reluctantly, after further examination (about a hundred more views) I have to agree. What I was seeing does seem to end before the floor, so it must be on the TV cabinet.
There are a couple other anomalies in that video, though, but I think I'll keep them to myself just now; I don't like the taste of my sock.