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Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

Started by Pirate88179, June 27, 2009, 04:41:28 AM

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Yucca

Quote from: Peterae on July 31, 2009, 04:35:33 PM
Yucca
Do you realize that a tv transformer(LOPTX) has a split diode secondary, this means it has integral diodes with multiple segmented secondaries in series with these diodes, this is done to limit the ac potential dielectric stress.

So it is not ac you are getting out, it is pulsed dc, if you keep the cathode ray tude and connect the final anode to this with the aquadag(tube gnd) in place connected to your earth you will have a giant high voltage capacitor which will store and smooth your 32kv dc voltage, but beware this is lethal when on, and still potentialy lethal when off if the internal bleed resistor or focus control pot has not been connected properly.

Peter

Hi peter, I know it has internal diode, but i didn't know the exact configuration and how the diodes sit in series with multiple secondaries. So I guess the secondary is wound like Meyers VIC, multiple bobbins in series, to reduce interwinding potentials and stop arcover.

I took a TV from a refuse site, removed the board and then redumped it so the tube is gone. Like a big leyden jar, out of interest do you know the approx farrad value of an average tube?

I will be charging a HV capacitor to <5kV levels and have a gap discharge it into the primary coil. When I start with the caps I will be working very sober and with one hand in the pocket. As you say caps charged to these levels can be lethal, something we all need to take care with.


edit:
Jesus, nice use of the old soldering iron handle, made a beautiful coilform!

xee2, Stay tuned, I´ll make more video as the build progresses, with better lighting next time.

sparks

I believe a Tesla transformer is able to convert high frequency low amplitude emwaves to higher amplitude lower frequency emwaves.  The waves then reflect in his system and create a standing wave of low frequency high voltage power.  The spark gap is capable of transmitting a wide spectrum of freqs of low amplitude due to the almost superconductive nature of the plasma formed between electrodes in the spark gap.  The resonant nature of the transformer allows for accumulation of this input energy and conversion of the high frequency low amplitude energy into low frequency high voltage output.  The higher the frequency the more energy carried in a wave.  If the input is in the gigahertz and converted to the kilohertz or less the possible gain in amplitude is substantial.
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xenomorphlabs

Quote from: sparks on August 01, 2009, 09:05:36 AM
I believe a Tesla transformer is able to convert high frequency low amplitude emwaves to higher amplitude lower frequency emwaves.  The waves then reflect in his system and create a standing wave of low frequency high voltage power.  The spark gap is capable of transmitting a wide spectrum of freqs of low amplitude due to the almost superconductive nature of the plasma formed between electrodes in the spark gap.  The resonant nature of the transformer allows for accumulation of this input energy and conversion of the high frequency low amplitude energy into low frequency high voltage output.  The higher the frequency the more energy carried in a wave.  If the input is in the gigahertz and converted to the kilohertz or less the possible gain in amplitude is substantial.

Your thoughts certainly go into the right direction.
First you have to bring the transformer into resonance.
Then you have to find a way to keep it in resonance, because if done wrong any load will
change the frequency and pull it out of resonance.
However what are you basing your argument upon that magically a low frequency will form in the transformer when it is driven at VHF/UHF ?
And how do you determine the value of that low frequency ? That`s the million dollar question.
I think about that for weeks now hehe.


Yucca

Quote from: xenomorphlabs on August 01, 2009, 10:34:22 AM
Your thoughts certainly go into the right direction.
First you have to bring the transformer into resonance.
Then you have to find a way to keep it in resonance, because if done wrong any load will
change the frequency and pull it out of resonance.
However what are you basing your argument upon that magically a low frequency will form in the transformer when it is driven at VHF/UHF ?
And how do you determine the value of that low frequency ? That`s the million dollar question.
I think about that for weeks now hehe.

xeno and sparks,
I´m still trying to get my head round how to tune this thing. Unlike a Tesla coil maybe the secondary does not have resonance because it just dumps everything via FWBR into the output cap. So we may not need to tune the secondary to the primary. So the primary only needs tuning, but tuning to what is the question, I can only guess that different tunings can be tried while monitoring overall transformer efficiency and then try and find some sweet spot?

xenomorphlabs

Quote from: Yucca on August 01, 2009, 11:07:39 AM
xeno and sparks,
I´m still trying to get my head round how to tune this thing. Unlike a Tesla coil maybe the secondary does not have resonance because it just dumps everything via FWBR into the output cap. So we may not need to tune the secondary to the primary. So the primary only needs tuning, but tuning to what is the question, I can only guess that different tunings can be tried while monitoring overall transformer efficiency and then try and find some sweet spot?

The FWBR approach adheres to that one D. Smith patent. Let`s take his kitchen-table device.
Honestly, i have a hard time understanding it, because at first glance there seem to be no resonant circuits per se.
Rectified DC caps on the primary and FWBR on the secondary does not yield the typical resonant circuits. In my understanding there should be no oscillation happening.
So the whole thing must be solely based upon the coils own oscillation with its parasitic parallel capacitance, which is usually small. The DC caps could theoretically oscillate but the high voltage would destroy them after a while. Why DC caps ?!?
Smith explicitely sais that these caps are for fine tuning the primary circuit, so he obviously uses them as part of an oscillator and they might tolerate the alternating current.

But why to drive the primary circuit at all with high frequency from a HV gen when it gets rectified anyway (in Smith`s device) is inexplicable to me at the moment. The frequency would simply be determined by the coil`s inductance, its parasitic capacitance (and the DC cap ?) alone. But maybe i am mistaken.

Kapanadze`s first video device does not need a rectifier to light the lamps (He has a  rectifier  { Ð'ЫПРЯМИТЕЛЬ } though on the table there which he connects to the secondary only later for whatever reason).
That indicates that his secondary already carries the correct AC.

Just experiment with LC circuits on primary and secondary and make some measurements.
You will eventually bring a clearer picture about this with your work.

Regards