Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze

[havuhung]

@havuhung, I believe that TK said you need 240 volt push for his device to work, hence the 240 volt inverter in early vids. I have only been working with 240volts and after 5 years nothing positive, but have seen OU be it for just a few minutes before melt down.

Regards
Keith

Hi captainkt,
Hopefully you will be successful in the next test.
Thank you

Havuhung

[NoBull]

Again why are you here if you don't know anything about TK and his devices?
For your reference:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3thvqFhFIfY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVUN3GsekKQ
See this is the problem. You want to chime in on things you have no idea about. You blather and distract instead of letting others see the connections. Do your homework before coming here and saying things about a process you don't understand.

I think Hoppy has already done his homework.
He studied and brainstormed those TK motors on the open forum starting from this reply to Zeitmaschine for 50 pages:
http://www.overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg357484/#msg357484

[Farmhand]

this is the comment on that video  from  Stefan:



This Question is addressed primarily but not only to Farmhand.
I would be delighted if  anyone else respond to it. e.g Verpies.

How do you understand Displacement Current Mechanism
in open wire circuit from that video?


Please explain Displacement Current Mechanism:
-for DC
-for AC
-for electrostatic charge

simple "open  air" one wire  circuit must obey the same condition - please explain Displacement Current Mechanism with respect to wire gap size or space distance .






Wesley

Well my view might be a bit different from others, but as I see it the plate at the end of the wire or even just the tube or the experimenters body acts as the "condenser in series with the coil", as Tesla put it. He also mentions that the motor can be used by connecting one end of the coil to the insulated plate and the other one preferably to ground.

As Tesla writes that the energy can be "given off into space" "and derived from it", so to me it seems entirely possible that with the "radio capable" frequencies a plate hanging in free air and insulated might possibly create a disturbance/gradient in the electrical field directly surrounding the plate, meaning that the energy is not "always" "all" returned via a different path eg, the ground, but some could be stored in the field around the plate then returned on the next half cycle via the same wire . Although I do not believe this is always the case or that all the energy goes that way, some or all may well complete a displacement current loop back to the generator via the ground as in the case in the shown example. Or when he talks of the motor connected to ground and the plate I think in that case the action is reversed and the ground is a fully fledged conductor with the displacement being a combination or all of one or the other displacement situations I described above concerning the plate.

Kinda like the difference of having a loop of hose with a alternating current and a piece of hose with a balloon on the end of it. It is worth noting that in my experience a much more stable and reliable result can be had by connecting one of the terminals of the transformer to the ground (even a center tap) and using the other as the connection to the fluro tube or whatever so this indicates that at least the action is improved by having the ground as a displacement return.

I think at the time of the Lecture Tesla had a lot going on and possibly was not certain of all mechanisms himself at that point.

Quote from the PDF.

But there is an additional feature of interest about this motor,
namely, it is not necessary to have even a single connection between
the motor and generator, except, perhaps, through the
ground; for not only is an insulated plate capable of giving off
energy into space, but it is likewise capable of deriving it from
an alternating electrostatic field, though in the latter case the
available energy is much smaller. In this instance one of the
motor terminals is connected to the insulated plate or body
located within the alternating electrostatic field, and the other
terminal preferably to the ground.

Cheers

P.S. I appreciate Stefan's comment, he does keep an eye on things. However even though the fluro looked bright, the camera does auto adjust and the frequency was maybe 20 Khz and voltage high. So even with half Wattage the tube would look pretty bright because of the duty across the 240 volt tube would be less than 100%. Plus the meter is not so accurate at that low amperage for a 30 Amp meter. I would say it did produce light fairly efficiently though, (not considering idle input power) adding more tubes results in a condition were I think the load becomes so capacitive the frequency could need lowering to maintain an increasing output by (keeping the tune on the transformer).

That transformer in my video took a lot of winding and work to build but it is very good for a hack like me to experiment with, i found I can use it to rectify AC to DC while messing with it, I didn't dwell on it because doing so showed a half voltage, although now I think of it I likely had two secondaries in parallel somehow so same power might have been possible. I'll get back to that.

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[itsu]

Is there anyone here who could do this simple test ? It will take at most 30 mins of your time. Any ferrite ring, any number of turns, any sized caps will do. Start using same amount of turns and same sized caps on both sides. 


If result is not positive, then at least we would then know what not to look for.


I have done it and it works for me but cannot do power measurements or get scope shots. I used nanoperm (80000) with 80 turns and 1000 nf caps. Resonance was about 11 kHz. For comparison, single coil having 20 turns and 1000 nf cap had resonant frequency below 1 kHz. Difference is over fourty times, ten for the frequency and four for difference in L, 20 turns vs. 80 turns.

Ok,  i toke a shot at this.

Single ferrite core (6.5cm od)
dual speaker wire (stranded 22 awg) wound twice around the whole circumference meaning 60 turns.

So we have a primary coil of 60 turns with 4mH and 0.2 Ohm and a secondary coil with 4mH and 0.2 Ohm.

2 capacitors of 220nF are attached to both coils which should give us a resonance frequency of about 5.3KHz according to http://www.1728.org/resfreq.htm.
Measurements confirm this, but resonance is very broad.

Bulbs used are 6V.

It turns out that in this situation we do not have a synchronious resonance on the primary and secondary
Primary resonance (input bulb off) is at 2.9KHz, while secondary resonance (output bulb lit) is at 7.8KHz.

Using another set of capacitors (7nF) shows similar behaviour, but on a higher frequency.


I think this is not the correct thread for this, but i leave it to jack if he want to move this to one of his own threads on this subject.

Video here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOX0tqgnD_w&feature=youtu.be

Regards Itsu

[verpies]

It turns out that in this situation we do not have a synchronous resonance on the primary and secondary
Primary resonance (input bulb off) is at 2.9KHz, while secondary resonance (output bulb lit) is at 7.8KHz.

What about the difference in primary resonance frequencies with the secondary open vs. only the bulb across secondary ?