Understanding electricity in the TPU.

[wattsup]

@wattsup

When the TPU replication effort started a few years ago, we asked all these questions about batteries and did the calculations, and we showed it was not possible, the volume is not there.  Even SM says so in the videos.   I'm puzzled why you're entertaining these same notions again.

<B>We did the calculations with AC 100 watt bulbs. Redo it with 12vdc bulbs and provide a pulsed DC source above 50 hz and let me know what the results will be then. He forced us to calculate 100watts/110vac when he was running at 12vdc 25 watts driven at 16vdc. </B>

Here's some answers to using 10 light bulbs instead of 8:

1)  The TPU voltage surges can burn all the 8 bulbs at once,  ... costly !  SM mentions these surges.

<B>SM always had the right excuses for every occasion. Funny, he knows all the answers except those that really matter. He is a master of turning events to his advantage. Sorry but there are no surges otherwise we would have seen them also with 10 bulbs. Just an excuse to not show at 8.</B>

2)  The TPU has produced 1000 V before when more power is drawn from the power lines by his house, (middle of summer, lots of AC units are on)

<B>I have no evidence anywhere about this 1000v.</B>

3)  The number ten is easier to multiply with any other number .... easy math!

<B>All numbers are easy when you know how to count.</B>

4)  More light bulbs lit up make a bigger impression on the viewer then fewer ones but slightly brighter. 

<B>You see, his 10 bulbs has convinced you to accept the lower lumens. Exactly where he wants your mindset to be during a demo. Now replace those with 12vdc bulbs driven at 16vdc and the hook is set and the fish is pulled in.</B>

My advice, don't focus only on the videos, listen to the words in the videos as well, read the engineering reports, but most importantly  EXPERIMENT 

<B>Again, SM wants you to concentrate on what he is saying and not really on what he is really showing you. Buddy buddy I have been through all the explanations you have given.</B>

EM

Thanks for your post. I answered in bold.

I have a question for you then. If the SM TPU is pulling power from the HV lines and he is making us think they are drawing power from the Earths Magnetic Field, where is the difference between faking it with batteries or faking it with HV lines? You still have the same base of trickery.

Another question? If he is using the HV lines, is it possible that the only energy he can get from it is just reactive power, meaning it is enough to hold a volt meter at a certain voltage but as soon as you put a load it falls to an RMS value around 5vdc.? The rest of the device showing bulbs is again hidden battery driven.

Added:

Seems like the bold feature does not work on Firefox. Also not being able to post more then 2 images per post. lol

[sparks]

If your definition of current is the amount of electrons moving by a point then of course current can not precede charged mass motion.   What moves an electron in an electric field.  Does the electron respond to a force from afar or does it respond to a current flow.  The ampere is a measure of the number of electrons moved by a point over a defined time period.  It does not take into account the velocity of the individual electrons moving past this point.  Just the number over a period of time.  An electron moving at realitivistic velocities is treated no differently than an electron moving past this point at a snails pace.  One electron is in a slow moving current while the other is in a fast moving current.  This is not a current of mass it is a current of whatever creates charge. The current flowing into or out of the electron becomes relavent to the currents flowing into and out of the electrons amassed in the plate.  Like a whirlpool moves in a river the electron is accelerated in a vector.  Now we discharge the capacitor or whatever anode we are using into a second capacitor or inductor to get it out of the way.  In so doing we create a magnetic field that bends the accelerated electron  path so it doesnt smash into the anode.  The electron slows down while it bends and in so doing creates electromagnetic waves or photons.  How fast the electron slows down will determine what frequency photon you emit.  Uv is a good one.  Uv can ionize electrons from air molecules allowing for alot of free electrons awaiting the next pulse across the capacitor to accelerate them.  An interesting side effect from this acceleration and deacceleration of the electron is that any thermal photons trapped in the atomic structure undergoing ionization  go radiant.  These photons can then induce currents in conductors not connected to the accelerator at all.  The wavelength of the emitted photons can be lengthened by any number of mechanisms.    Tesla did it by creating standing waves in trasmission lines and driving dc motors and SM seems to have taken the rf and converted it into elf.  Being familiar with television conversion of rf to audio must have helped him in this process.

[EMdevices]

@ sparks,   
I'm glad to see you do understand the physics.


@ wattsup

I don't think Steven Mark's intentions were to FAKE a TPU by tapping into the magnetic frequency emanating from the power lines behind his house.

I suspect he knows where the power comes from but certainly does not share it with us in the videos. 

By saying his energy comes from the power lines, I am not accusing him or his device as being FAKE.   It's not easy to make a high Q receiver tuned to those frequencies, and he is definitely using acoustic vibrations as the high Q mechanism.

We did the calculations with AC 100 watt bulbs. Redo it with 12vdc bulbs and provide a pulsed DC source above 50 hz and let me know what the results will be then. He forced us to calculate 100watts/110vac when he was running at 12vdc 25 watts driven at 16vdc.

So your saying his demo light bulbs are 12 V bulbs?   I don't agree.  But yes, if he did have some sort of fake bulbs then yes you can fake the video with hidden batteries, but not the people present at the demos who touch those bulbs and tested those bulbs, or who plugged in the TV.

I see you're asking about reactive power.  You are correct, in most cases when you load a tuned loop the voltage will drop, it's all based on the impedance mismatch between source and load.  However, if you have a very low source impedance and you connect a high impedance load you won't see much of a voltage drop.  In most tuned loops you don't connect the load to the main resonant coil, but to another coil that has one or two turns to step the impedance down (source impedance) or step the load impedance up.  This way you don't disturb the main resonant tank and lower it's Q.   

To answer your question,  you can receive REAL power not just REACTIVE power. 
It's reactive power only if you don't load it down with a resistive load.

EM

[EMdevices]

@Loner,

yes, I believe the TPUs are very high Q receivers, normal LC tuned loops might have a Q of around 100, but if you use mechanical vibration you can increase the Q into the 1000 level and even 10 000 levels.     I did some calculations elsewhere on all this theory.     

Answers:
1)  I'm sure the TPUs are somewhat lossy, they seem to over heat.
2)  I'm not sure what effects your refer too, but 5 kHz, 830 Volts can easily create those sparks we see in the videos.
3)  It's neither Longitudinal or Transverse, we are just coupling to a magnetic field pointing down into the ground (from my experiments at the mansion, there seems to also be a horizontal component)  We are basically in the near field of these very low frequency TEM waves that travel on the power lines, or rather resonate on those lines.

EM

[sigma16]

What "IF" the TPU is not just a receiver for EM fields?  If it is the "real deal", how might it work?  Might there be some other way to induce EMF in a conductor than by moving a magnet across it?