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Global Warming

Started by PaulLowrance, November 25, 2009, 08:45:51 AM

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ResinRat2

Wait, I looked at the temperature change in your graph.

So you are saying over this period of time that the total change in the temperture of the earth was 1.1°C

Am I reading this right?  1.1 degrees Celsius?

Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

ResinRat2

When you are looking at the graph I fully understand you are looking at the slope of the line to show the acceleration in temperature changes within the last five decades or so. You also need to see how warm the sun was several decades before this and see if there is any correlation.

This is an important variable in the whole picture.
Research is the only place in a company where you can continually have failures and still keep your job.

I knew immediately that was where I belonged.

innovation_station

perhaps were aproching a harmonic....

maybe things ringggg

in your soul....

ist!

i told ya you wont be the same agin ...  may be this is how this creation is designed ...  maybe ... maybe not ... 

call it your ALARM CLOCK...
To understand the action of the local condenser E in fig.2 let a single discharge be first considered. the discharge has 2 paths offered~~ one to the condenser E the other through the part L of the working circuit C. The part L  however  by virtue of its self induction  offers a strong opposition to such a sudden discharge  wile the condenser on the other hand offers no such opposition ......TESLA..

THE !STORE IS UP AND RUNNING ...  WE ARE TAKEING ORDERS ..  NOW ..   ISTEAM.CA   AND WE CAN AND WILL BUILD CUSTOM COILS ...  OF   LARGER  OUTPUT ...

CAN YOU SAY GOOD BYE TO YESTERDAY?!?!?!?!

ATT

Quote from: ResinRat2 on December 03, 2009, 01:14:03 PM
Am I reading this right?  1.1 degrees Celsius?

The temperature change over the period shown is 0.9 degrees Celsius. I overlayed two separate graphs and manually moved the 'anomaly' graduations from the left to the right side, this probably introduced an error.

What I'm looking for, however, is a correlation between the components, the 'slope', 'trend', 'influences' that show up over the time period in question.

I'll re-plot all data on the same graph in the next set rather than put separate graphs together as i did here.

Tony

PaulLowrance

Quote from: ATT on December 03, 2009, 12:23:56 PM
Well I'll tell you what, gents, I went out and got the raw-data, did the plots and overlayed the graphs and it sure looks to me like there's a direct correlation between population growth, carbon emissions and global temperature rise starting around 150 years ago when we were in the throws of the Industrial Revolution.

Unless some real forward-thinking guy hatched this scheme way back in 1860, I'd say the data holds up to scrutiny, it's pretty hard to fake data that's been around for 150 years, too many have laid eyes on it for too long.

Starting with the latter part of the Industrial Revolution, the global temperature has risen as the population has grown and carbon emissions have increased. There is a direct correlation between all three components.

Data sources:

U.S. population data:
http://www.census.gov/population/www/censusdata/hiscendata.html
Global temp data:
http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/info/warming/gtc2008.csv
Global carbon emissions data:
http://cdiac.ornl.gov/ftp/ndp006/ndp006.pdf
http://www.eia.doe.gov/iea/carbon.html

The population and temperature plots were taken from year-interval data and reduced to decade-interval data then plotted from Excel.

The Carbon plot was overlayed from a year-interval IPCC graph, however, for any who'd like to take the time to plot this as a 10-year interval the complete datasets are contained in the two carbon-sources listed above.

For reference, the carbon-data begins in 1850 and ends in 2000.

Hi ATT,

I give you an A++. I agree with your results, and I would encourage everyone who question the numbers to do their own number crunching. Nobody would blame the skeptics to question your number crunching. If your results conflicted with what I believe, I would question it as well. In this case, I agree with your end result-- a warming trend.

I would also agree that humanity is not the only source to global warming, but the data that supports global warming is so overwhelming. The question is, how much is due to humanity, and all of the numbers I've seen say a *noticeable* amount is due to humanity.

Regardless folks, we can *not* afford to take a chance with this rare and beautiful planet filled with life!!! I commend everyone who puts forth at least some effort into being green. That is, use efficient light bulbs, try to minimize the number of lights that are on, minimize water usage, recycle, recycle, recycle.  :)

Regards,
Paul