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Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump

Started by agentgates, January 05, 2010, 09:28:18 AM

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Mannix



I wonder if any body knows how that pulse DC is created in the secondary?

Dansway


turbo

Quote from: Dansway on January 15, 2010, 06:56:27 PM
@ -[Marco]-

Are you talking about Bedini tech?

No i am sorry i have done some Bedini replications but i left magnetics entirely... my personal oppinion is that this is not the correct mechanism.

Quote from: Mannix on January 15, 2010, 06:54:56 PM

I wonder if any body knows how that pulse DC is created in the secondary?


Why do you ask us? why not ask the inventor....
He is the only one that can clear this situation, and i do not think he is going to do that Mannix.......

pauldude000

Quote from: -[marco]- on January 15, 2010, 05:56:04 PM
The TPU is the joke of the century Paul.
The problem is that most people are still living in the dream.....


Marco, you and EM became dissallusioned with the tpu. You found you could fake a device on camera, so therefore the original device must have been faked as well. My question to you is this. Would your devices... either one.... would they have withstood close up examination by an EE???

If not, then you have no proof of anything but that YOU faked a device convincingly.

Remember that SM's devices were actually scrutinized at close range by professional people SUSPECTING a scam to begin with. This is often overlooked or ignored by nay-sayers. It had secondary validation of various sources, which scamsters cannot afford to have, or real devices by real professionals.

Five thousand fakes and fifty thousand failed replications will not change that issue.

I have spent over two grand myself, join the club. I have built ~twenty or thirty different TPU's, and spent countless hours examining them, trying a wide range of techniques.

Yet for every failure I have seen interesting and often times unexplainable effects, and potential effects which have scared the living daylights out of me. I am not one to change knowledge bases easily, or throw out long cherished notions of physics, yet I have had to completely revamp my supposed "knowledge" of electromagnetism more than once because of my research.

This is anything BUT a false lead. The largest problem with replication is overcoming X years worth of SM interpretations, combined with very half-assed explanations and descriptions from the inventor himself. It truthfully makes me think he was achieving results without complete understanding on his own part, comparable to that Hutchison dude I came across years back.

As far as one way to build? That has never been true. There is always more than one way to do anything. If Tony has found another way, dissimilar to the original in build, but working from the same principles, then great!

As for the potential for such a device to work? Which principle do you disagree with... 1. A moving electric field can generate electricity? OR 2. Electric fields affect the movement of electrons?

You guys have been, to the best of my understanding, concentrating on magnetic field effects, ignoring half of the equation. Have you tried manipulating motional electric fields? The other half of ELECTROmagnetism?

Most of the problems people have been having here from what I have seen was the same problem I suffered from. They ASSUMED to much.

Most of the affects we see HAVE been seen by EE's. Theorists in science are almost never truly hands-on, so generally see little. EE's generally have given them the term 'anomaly', fixed the circuits to where the effect is nullified, and move on.

EE's are not trained to be theorists, so don't have the instinct to step back and say "WHAT THE HECK!!!!" when faced with a purely theoretical basis "should not be happening" situation, nor are they paid to. They are engineers whom can do amazing stuff with what is on hand, and generally understand WHY a circuit works BETTER than a theorist would, believe it or not.

The magnetic field and electric field effects are nothing new, they are merely relegated. If a good theorist were to talk at length with several good EE's about the observed effects they have observed, and 'fixed', they would either be disbelieved or it would floor the theorist.

What everyone needs to QUIT doing is assuming. ASSUMPTION is the main basis for stumped research on anything.

Paul Andrulis
Finding truth can be compared to panning for gold. It generally entails sifting a huge amount of material for each nugget found. Then checking each nugget found for valuable metal or fool's gold.

turbo

YES! EXACTLY!!!

Get rid of the vague shit and replace it by CLEAR stuff.
I am not saying the TPU is fake i am saying we do not have enough info to replicate it and that makes it a joke!
Give a caveman all the parts of a car and wait untill he drives by..but he got no tools to begin with...

Paul it's not hard to fake anything on video...Real or not this thing isn't going to be replicated or at least not in our lifetime..

Gosh i am getting tired repeating myself i'd better stop.
It's up to you guy's.

over and OUR.