Solid State Orbo System

[synchro1]

Can anyone tell me if the Metglas and Finemet shielding film offered by this company can be rolled into high permiability cores?  //http://www.lessemf.com/mag-shld.html

[Groundloop]

@Airstriker,

I never said that the JNL device should not be discussed.

What I said that I did not want a lengthy discussion
about measurements errors etc.

OK?

Groundloop.

[gravityblock]

Groundloop, the point is...2SGen IS a solid state ORBO! Don't you see the exact same configuration of core and magnet ? The difference is that in 2SGen you have one magnet placed inside the toroid core. In orbo you have 2 magnets facing the toroid core. However, it doesn't really change the effect, as in 2SGen this one magnet acts exactly in the same way as the ORBO's two magnets. You also have N S here. So yes, I think this device should actually be discussed here.

There is a huge difference in discussing the 2SGen device and having a lengthy discussion on measurement errors,etc.  You have really poor reading comprehension while misinterpreting what you read and this causes major distractions and flame wars.  This example repeats itself over and over again.  I'm tired of it.  I don't know if this is intentional or not, but it needs to stop.

GB

[Bruce_TPU]

Good Morning ALL,

Well, another small leap for Power Output of my SSG3...  While dropping the power input a little as an added bonus!

In reading through this Patent:
http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=WO&NR=2009065219A1&KC=A1&FT=D&date=20090528&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

I realized that I had no Core.  I had experimented only with my Steel large pieces and iron powder nano sticks.  So, I decided to cut some lamination, it is steel wire, insulated.  Taped the tops and bottom and stuck them under the toroid at the top.  Toroid MUST be directly on the top of the laminations to work.  On the sides of laminations, and nothing.

So, now I will take this to the next conclusion, and try out different cores.

It is strange, as the volts read about 5.7 to 5.8 and all of a sudden, jump up to 12 and then down to a very steady 6.8 volts, at 63% duty cycle at about 48 Hz.

New Power Output:
V  6.88
R  43.3
I  0.15889
P  1.09315

Center Coil Output:
V  .200
R  .9
I  0.22222
P  0.0444

[gravityblock]

Severe error in JL Naudin's measurement (http://jnaudin.free.fr/2SGen/images/2SGenMDtest.gif).
Each capacitor charges at the maximum positive respectively negative voltage peak then the mid point of the capacitors is just in between.
Thus the voltage reference for the capacitor is not the zero voltage of the flat step of the signal (http://jnaudin.free.fr/2SGen/images/2sg2b.jpg - blue line). It is lower because of the higher absolute value of the negative pulse.

Consequently a part of the magnetization energy is accounted for demagnetization energy.

In such measurements without symmetry between positive and negative wave forms, only rms voltage measurements can give correct results.

Severe misinformation. You mixed the circuit in Episode 7 with the scope shots of Episode 6 (take a look at the two reference links to the images above and compare).  You can't do this.  There are two circuits in Episode 7 which separates the demagnetization phase from the magnetization phase, thus some of the magnetization energy can not be accounted for in the demagnetization phase in Episode 7.

After the pulse has ended for the magnetization phase, the core is still being magnetized due to a lag in induction and this is known as magnetic viscosity.  This lag in induction is what you see as some of the magnetization energy being accounted for in the demagnetization phase in Episode 6. 

In Episode 7, Naudin has two circuits which separates the demag phase from the mag phase, so your arguments and analysis is an obvious and intentional attempt to derail this thread.  Why are the moderators of this forum allowing this behavior to continue?

GB