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Overunity Machines Forum



Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !

Started by hartiberlin, April 25, 2010, 02:33:30 AM

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Thaelin

   I remember right here on OU it was said that an HHO
cell could not produce enough gas output to sustain the
operation of the motor. 
   The motor will have to be fixed with a controller that
can react fast enough to the conditions as used in cars
today. We are standing at the crossroads of tomorrow
and we 'will' move forward. The future demands it.

thaelin

Cloxxki

What if the Anton cell were to be found able to produce a limited amount of gas or its input, but cherry-pick watermocules for greatest effect, leaving the lesser interesting ones unbroken?
I could see a system cherry-picking some 100g from 1000kg of water, for easy breaking and powerful explosion/implosion, leaving 900g of water "only interested for watering plants". Is cherrypicking water OU? You're not using the hypothesized 90%, and for anyone else, it's still good as water.

A car might run on plain water, just need a whole lot of it, giving most of it back after use.

I'll just throw in here, that a more efficient design of engine would greatly increase the chance of a successfully looped system. Stuff like Tommey Reed explores with his engine designs, no inefficient crank shafts suppressing the might of the explosions.
Should the OU effect be too small to be made to work reliably now, such a way might help out. Like a gravity wheel that is dragging heavily on the ground, wasting 50% of the input right there, and thus bare allowed to work.

Good luck to the researchers!!

vrand

Charged Water Clusters theory of Common Duct Electrolyzers
By Moray King:

"t has been observed over the years that the typical Brown’s gas generators which have a wide spacing between the electrodes manifest three sets of bubbles between the electrodes.  Hydrogen is produced on the negative electrode and oxygen is produced on the positive electrode as would be expected in standard electrolysis. However, in the middle there appears a set of bubbles that many researchers believe is the most energetic component, the hypothesized charged water gas clusters.

When the electrodes are tightly spaced, any free oxygen and hydrogen atoms can easily join the cluster. Hydrogen atoms tend to combine with whatever they hit on first collision. Thus tightly spaced electrodes would produce more charged water gas clusters and less free hydrogen."

So the Anton cell design with 1 mm spacing is creating more of the ZPE "Charged Water Clusters" than other designs that have wider spacing electrodes. That would explain why other Brown's gas researchers have not been able to run there engines off their cells.

haithar

I have seen this presentation, but many questions arise.

How does he know that the large bubbles are "charged water clusters"?
Why are charged water clusters gaseous?
Why are charged water clusters from zero-point energy?
And so on ..

vrand

Quote from: haithar on May 02, 2010, 01:02:27 PM
I have seen this presentation, but many questions arise.

How does he know that the large bubbles are "charged water clusters"?
Why are charged water clusters gaseous?
Why are charged water clusters from zero-point energy?
And so on ..

Charged water clusters is the name Moray King calls them. Other "Brown's Gas" researchers, have seen this phenomenon of the 3 types of bubbles

Brown's Gas researcher George Wiseman called this middle gas "electrified water".  His cell design was 3/8" spacing, so it was easy to see this middle gas bubbles created.

Moray's ZPE theory seems to fit all the anomalies of Brown's Gas and can be explain using quantum electrodynamics. Until someone comes up with another theory, this looks good to me.