This device is the real self-running overunity?

[gravityblock]

Nice setup. A lot better than mine Anyway in my tests I was not able to make the magnets rotate. I have tried using a half or full wave rectification. The half wave rectification was used in either entry point of coil or exit point of coil. In all cased the magnets did not rotate. I've also tried to break the uniformity of the magnetic field of the magnets by adding very small magnets on top of them. Also no success in either half or full wave rectification. The magnets did want to rotate at some point but they immediately stopped at some other point. I've also tried to give the magnets an initial spin. Also without success ;[ However in all cases I've used the coils with ferromagnetic cores. Maybe air coils will show something different. How is it in your case? Any success ?
By the way, I think your ordinary bearings are affected by the magnets. They simply make the rotations slower. Try using plastic bearings.
And one more thing... The rotation of the magnets should be easily seen - you don't really need any special cameras to capture that movement. I can tell that, as I've seen some momements, where the magnets did want to rotate and rotated a bit but failed some miliseconds later. So if you don't see the rotations by your eyes, the magnets don't rotate.

I agree the magnet should have no net rotation due to oppossing forces cancelling each other, but there will be a net force against the main rotor or the prime mover as mentioned in my previous post.  I don't think this device defeats Lenz.  It would be interesting to know if the coil is allowed to freely rotate also, if this would cause the coil and magnets to oscillate back and forth with their fields.  Example, coil rotates CW and magnet rotates CCW on approach, then the coil will rotate CCW and the magnet rotates CW on departure.  I'll have to give this some more thought.  Thanks for sharing your experiments.

GB

[NTesla]

Nice setup. A lot better than mine Anyway in my tests I was not able to make the magnets rotate. I have tried using a half or full wave rectification. The half wave rectification was used in either entry point of coil or exit point of coil. In all cased the magnets did not rotate. I've also tried to break the uniformity of the magnetic field of the magnets by adding very small magnets on top of them. Also no success in either half or full wave rectification. The magnets did want to rotate at some point but they immediately stopped at some other point. I've also tried to give the magnets an initial spin. Also without success ;[ However in all cases I've used the coils with ferromagnetic cores. Maybe air coils will show something different. How is it in your case? Any success ?
By the way, I think your ordinary bearings are affected by the magnets. They simply make the rotations slower. Try using plastic bearings.
And one more thing... The rotation of the magnets should be easily seen - you don't really need any special cameras to capture that movement. I can tell that, as I've seen some momements, where the magnets did want to rotate and rotated a bit but failed some miliseconds later. So if you don't see the rotations by your eyes, the magnets don't rotate.

I am using air coils - as per Wendall's videos. The bearings/fittings I am using are austenitic (non-magnetic) with the exception of the centre bearings which are unintentionally magnetic - however the rotor magnets are far enough away to have negligible drag.

I have detected rotation of the magnets (tested in South - South magnet configuration) however it is difficult to determine a) if the rotation is caused by interaction with the generator coils or inertia as a result of the main rotor's rotation and b) How much rotation is occuring. The test I used was to mark off a position on a magnet prior to starting the motor, then noting the position again after the rotor had slowed to a stop. As I stated in an earlier post, my investigation of Wendall's first video shows that NO rotation of the magnets are occuring - contrary to his audio.

Thus far in my testing, I have hooked up full wave rectification with a small LED as a load. As to be expected the rotor slows under load. All reasonable (i.e power generating) permutations of wiring to the generator coils result in slow down under load. This occurs using North - South magnet polarity (i.e left magnet North points to generator coil, right magnet's South points to generator coil) and also South - South.

[gauschor]

Thanks for this nice contribution, NTesla. Your setup looks very professional and clean, like a real clone of Wendells device

Hmm so you experienced a slow down after attaching loads... Have you tried to feedback the generated power to the motor yet (maybe trying with/without a capacitor)? And then disconnect the main power source? I think it was that what Wendell claimed, that it is a self runner even without battery attached. I'm very interested in your results, please keep up the good work.

[NTesla]

Thanks for this nice contribution, NTesla. Your setup looks very professional and clean, like a real clone of Wendells device

Hmm so you experienced a slow down after attaching loads... Have you tried to feedback the generated power to the motor yet (maybe trying with/without a capacitor)? And then disconnect the main power source? I think it was that what Wendell claimed, that it is a self runner even without battery attached. I'm very interested in your results, please keep up the good work.

The output from the coils is not enough to power the motor (6-12VDC @ 0.8A). My rectification circuit is a diode bridge with some smoothing capacitors enough to constantly light a small LED. In Wendall's YouTube video "New Generator Video Part II  2-14-2010" he shows a multimeter measuring the DC output  (I think) and it allegedly peaks at around 25V - and it's not under load. It is also interesting to note that in the "New Generator Video Part IV" video, the generator coils are lighting a small LED, very similar to my output. If he were generating 25V at any substantial current that LED would be blown very quickly. One can generate 10s of KV with a Wimshurst machine for example but the current is miniscule, and even if you step down the volts the resulting current is never going to be substantial.

[gauschor]

@NTesla:

Thanks very much, that's some good and valuable data. Too bad the device doesn't produce enough current to power a motor. I also recall that I saw something about 25 Volts in Wendells video. As it seems these were voltage peaks only. Yeah, and you are right, if the current had been higher and more consistent the LED would have been blown. The analogy with the Wimshurst fits right in here. Tested this beast myself extensively. High voltage but miniscule current. Too less even for a toy motor.

I can see in your picture that you have carved out crosswise wings. Did you test the device with 4 magnets yet? Maybe the current is a bit larger with 4 magnets instead of 2? (however slowly I'm doubting it changes that much, you may better spare your money for something else).

Ah I got another experiment for you left: Wendell claimed that his devices accelerates more and more when he just feedbacks the power produced by the coils to the motor. Of course he did not remove his main power source (the battery). In one of his last comments he wrote that his device accelerated so fast then a sonic boom happened.

You could try to test if this incrementing acceleration is true. Be careful though, no need to let it accelerate too much.