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Overunity Machines Forum



This device is the real self-running overunity?

Started by Arthurs, May 17, 2010, 03:45:15 PM

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NTesla

Quote from: gauschor on October 11, 2010, 06:58:18 PM
@NTesla:

Thanks very much, that's some good and valuable data. Too bad the device doesn't produce enough current to power a motor. I also recall that I saw something about 25 Volts in Wendells video. As it seems these were voltage peaks only. Yeah, and you are right, if the current had been higher and more consistent the LED would have been blown. The analogy with the Wimshurst fits right in here. Tested this beast myself extensively. High voltage but miniscule current. Too less even for a toy motor.

I can see in your picture that you have carved out crosswise wings. Did you test the device with 4 magnets yet? Maybe the current is a bit larger with 4 magnets instead of 2? (however slowly I'm doubting it changes that much, you may better spare your money for something else).

Ah I got another experiment for you left: Wendell claimed that his devices accelerates more and more when he just feedbacks the power produced by the coils to the motor. Of course he did not remove his main power source (the battery). In one of his last comments he wrote that his device accelerated so fast then a sonic boom happened.

You could try to test if this incrementing acceleration is true. Be careful though, no need to let it accelerate too much.

No I have not tested it with 4 magnets. I deliberately built the rotor 'wings' so they could have 4 magnets in case testing showed promise.

Outputting the generator coils to the motor has no discernable effect on the RPM, which is to be expected given the low output. The generator coils are 3mh Crossover inductors (air cores) using 0.8mm wire.

Utilising larger/more generator coils does not seem justified to me because I have not been able to replicate Wendall's claims thus far. I had designed the housing mechanism to accept a large wooden (MDF) 'ring' upon which I could mount lots of coils.

My replication differs from Wendall's in a few - possibly crucial - aspects, properties of the inductors (generator coils) which are unpublished, and his use of passive magnetic bearings. Perhaps the use of magnet bearings on the magnet rotors is crucial in terms of reducing friction IF the key aspect of the design is rotation of the magnets.

If anyone else has a replication using magnetic bearings I would be interested to know their findings! I wonder if the compression that results from the opposing inductor force on the magnet could translate to rotation of the magnet when magnetic bearings are used in the horizontal plane? With conventional bearings it is likely friction would just disipate the force.

Wendall's 'sonic boom' claim sounds (no pun intended) like hyperbole. However I know from my own experience that a rotating magnet setup like that would make a hell of noise when it came apart - especially if you have the magnets being attracted to each other at high speed! I often wear safety goggles when working on or near a magnet motor for this very reason.

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NTesla

I have just ordered some suitable magnets and sleeve bearings with the intention of making hybrid passive magnetic bearings to more closely reproduce Wendall's design. Frankly I am not optimistic that this device has potential, however the parts I have ordered will come in handy for other experiments I have planned.

If anyone else has made a replication attempt I would be interested in your findings  ;D

Incidentally, Wendall has not posted any new videos for his device and last visited his youtube site (http://www.youtube.com/user/Th3Generat0r#p/u/8/etFCzIe-D2Y) 2 weeks ago. It's been a year since he posted his first video about this device.

Airstriker

Quote from: NTesla on October 11, 2010, 05:39:50 AM
I am using air coils - as per Wendall's videos. The bearings/fittings I am using are austenitic (non-magnetic) with the exception of the centre bearings which are unintentionally magnetic - however the rotor magnets are far enough away to have negligible drag.

I have detected rotation of the magnets (tested in South - South magnet configuration) however it is difficult to determine a) if the rotation is caused by interaction with the generator coils or inertia as a result of the main rotor's rotation and b) How much rotation is occuring. The test I used was to mark off a position on a magnet prior to starting the motor, then noting the position again after the rotor had slowed to a stop. As I stated in an earlier post, my investigation of Wendall's first video shows that NO rotation of the magnets are occuring - contrary to his audio.

Thus far in my testing, I have hooked up full wave rectification with a small LED as a load. As to be expected the rotor slows under load. All reasonable (i.e power generating) permutations of wiring to the generator coils result in slow down under load. This occurs using North - South magnet polarity (i.e left magnet North points to generator coil, right magnet's South points to generator coil) and also South - South.
a) inertia - tested.
b) if the magnets had rotated because of interactions, you would have clearly seen it and heard it - no need to place any marks on the magnets - tested.

Can you also try half wave rectification ? If so, please test two current directions.

NTesla

Quote from: Airstriker on October 14, 2010, 06:58:46 AM
a) inertia - tested.
b) if the magnets had rotated because of interactions, you would have clearly seen it and heard it - no need to place any marks on the magnets - tested.

Can you also try half wave rectification ? If so, please test two current directions.

Will do  ;D Note that at the start of Wendall's YouTube video "New Generator Video Part  III  2-14-2010" he shows a full wave rectification circuit. It looks like each coil has a corresponding bridge rectifier that then goes through to a single smoothing capacitor.