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Overunity Machines Forum



Chalkalis Gravity Wheel

Started by teslaalset, July 10, 2010, 08:52:57 AM

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ae_vector

Quote from: knovos on October 19, 2011, 06:30:32 AM
Thank you very much for your contribution. I can't wait for the results. I certainly going to use this excel sheet to check if the device that I build fits into these numbers. For those who are interested in the building of my device look at http://knovos-chalkalisreplication.blogspot.com/
knovos

@knoves, You have a very nice build so far. 5711 g is around 12.6 lbs. Mine is at 7 lbs. I also have a 10 lbs weight set so I can try both. Looking forward to your results.

brian

Johnnybedos

Why don`t you use a massive fly Wheel for inertia ?
Quote from: JEJEHO on October 16, 2011, 06:30:58 AM
Dear All,

Please note , Chalkalis wheel cannot do big work. Because When the weights are falling down, due to the weights  are loosing there energy , the wheel can do a work. But when the weights are going up it cannot do the same work, becasue of the weights are gaining there  energy. so when it is connected to a generator, when the weights are falling down it can run the generator but when the weights are going up it cant.

Nixon

ae_vector

Quote from: knovos on October 19, 2011, 06:30:32 AM
Thank you very much for your contribution. I can't wait for the results. I certainly going to use this excel sheet to check if the device that I build fits into these numbers. For those who are interested in the building of my device look at http://knovos-chalkalisreplication.blogspot.com/
knovos

@knovos, I have been following your blog. Thanks for sharing your progress with pictures. I will post pictures as well on my progress. I have all the materials for the most part already.

One problem I see is the weights on your device. It seems like you just multiplied 0.25 to the original weight. But it should be less than that (for the dimensions it is OK to do this, but not for the weight.) For example, if you have 2x2x2 cm^3 block and you half the dimensions, you get 1x1x1 cm^3 block, but the weight is not half the weight, it is 1/8th the weight because you can fit eight 1x1x1 block in the 2x2x2 block. so instead of weighing 4kg (if original weight was 8kg), the block with half the dimension will only weigh 1kg. Hope that makes sense.

-brian

knovos

Quote from: ae_vector on October 23, 2011, 12:54:23 PM
One problem I see is the weights on your device. It seems like you just multiplied 0.25 to the original weight. But it should be less than that (for the dimensions it is OK to do this, but not for the weight.) For example, if you have 2x2x2 cm^3 block and you half the dimensions, you get 1x1x1 cm^3 block, but the weight is not half the weight, it is 1/8th the weight because you can fit eight 1x1x1 block in the 2x2x2 block. so instead of weighing 4kg (if original weight was 8kg), the block with half the dimension will only weigh 1kg. Hope that makes sense.

-brian

O yes that make sense, thank you for this remark! I don't know how to handle with this problem. Is there somebody over here who can do the math for me. My design is 25% from the original design. The original has a 22mm 4,5 kilo outer copper tube, but how long is it and what is the inside diameter of the tube. Without the right math it will be a gambling machine, it will take tons of time to find out what the correct weights are for my design.
Very nice to know there is somebody else in the world who is also building this device. Can't wait to see your pictures. I have updated my blog with building the under construction.http://knovos-chalkalisreplication.blogspot.com/
regards,
Knovos.

ae_vector

Quote from: knovos on October 23, 2011, 05:21:57 PM
O yes that make sense, thank you for this remark! I don't know how to handle with this problem. Is there somebody over here who can do the math for me. My design is 25% from the original design. The original has a 22mm 4,5 kilo outer copper tube, but how long is it and what is the inside diameter of the tube. Without the right math it will be a gambling machine, it will take tons of time to find out what the correct weights are for my design.
Very nice to know there is somebody else in the world who is also building this device. Can't wait to see your pictures. I have updated my blog with building the under construction.http://knovos-chalkalisreplication.blogspot.com/
regards,
Knovos.

@Knovos, for the dimensions you are using (25%), the scaled weight of one ball should only be 357g (0.357kg). This weight is too small to produce significant power (only 50 Watts at 500 rpm). At 2kg balls (4kg for both) the power goes up to 270 Watts at 500 rpm (560mm diameter). This is why Chalkalis recommends building big like his, but the weights he is using might be too impractical/dangerous for us regular replicators like me.

So my suggestion is to use 2kg weights for the center weights (4kg total) and 0.4 kg (400g) for the outer perimeter tube, which is 1/5th the weight of one of the center weights. The ratio between one ball and the outer tube is about 0.20 or 20% or 1/5th. If you want to go heavier, just take 1/5th of the weight of one center weights (ball) you are using. I am using 1.5kg weights (3kg total) on mine. My diameter is bigger (30 inches vs 22 inches for yours) so I can get by with smaller weights.

-brian