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The downfalls of conventional electrolysis - and how to fix them

Started by oswaldonfire, July 20, 2010, 11:30:31 AM

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iquant

What was the temp of your solution?  Try > 66C.

Quote from: ZathEros on September 19, 2010, 12:24:52 AM
Gentlemen,
So far I have found three things that don't work.
I was able to conduct a few experiments using High frequency RF and UHF RF energy to split water. So far I have not had any luck.
I took a 250 ML graduated cylinder and wrapped  24 ga. wire around the cylinder fro the base to about 6" above the base.
I attached a 50 300 watt carbon pile resistor to one end of the wire and chassis ground. The other end of the wire was attached to the center conductor of a pl-259 RF chassis connector.
I chose this method for two reasons-
1) To not destroy my radio gear in the pursuit of the experimentation.
2) This method will definitely deliver RF power ( field ) to the cylinder.

I filled the cylinder with a saturated aqueous solution of sodium Hydroxide. I powered the coil on the cylinder with ~40 watts @ 146 Mhz and observed the cylinder to look for any hint of gas production in the cylinder.
Nothing.
I then tried a lower frequency. I tried 28 Mhz @ ~ 60 watts.
Nothing.
I went down to 18 Mhz @ ~ 40 watts.
Again nothing.

I will repeat these same experiments with saltwater when I get time.
Zatheros

StihlWoody

So it seems that Chris Hunter/ AlaskaStar is a bit smarter than he want anyone to know.

WHAT ELSE IS HE DOING? 

I didn't see anything in his shop regarding refrigerant except a few snap-on tools, and r134a bottles, propane bottles...

But this stuff is so simple.  Why did he disappear from all the boards?

Was he chased off or something?

If this stuff comes so simple and easy to him, then where is he? What is he really working on? 

rrrg!  Now I am curious!

Where do we begin? 

The science is starting to show that maybe it was a heater, not so much of a EMF reactor?

If that's the case, then we may be close to cracking it?

I am wanting to build, but where to start now?

StihlWoody

ramset

SW
We seem to have a conglomeration of ideas that can change our world forever!

we should figure a way to focus our efforts and choose a path!

Chet
PS
There is also an amazing amount of talent watching!
PPS
they say we can run around like chickens with our heads cut off!

Lets not do that!

Ideas??
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

ramset

Perhaps if we pick the one we can actually replicate ,and go from there?

Or the biggest bang for the buck?

Dutchy,
Are there any claims made in your patent research on Energy in energy out?

iquant,
ammonia? is this feasible?[sounds like it].

We allready know Chris Hunter has a 5 minute, 5 watt, 5700 liter claim!
Geesh, that sounds good!!

HHMMmm......
we have three threads in one here,but somehow some things seem connected perhaps the focus is just around the corner!

Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

dutchy1966

Quote from: ramset on September 19, 2010, 11:56:37 AM
Dutchy,
Are there any claims made in your patent research on Energy in energy out?

Chet

Chet,

There is no claim of COP but the system is nearly passive. Basically it works like this:
NaOH and H2O are put in a tank. Then the system starts running and it gives you electricity, Hydrogen and Oxygen. After using these three, the Sodium hydroxy and water are collected in two separate tanks.
Up to this stage no external energy input is used!

Just to restart the system you have to put the two separate tanks back into the starting tank...so you might need a little bit of input energy to pump it back. (Or you can do it manually yourself :-)  )
ALL ingredients are recovered!

Just read the patent, it is not diffecult and makes things very clear. As you know I have already a passive ion separator to replace the design in the patent.

regards

Dutchy