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Help with Ed Leedskalnin Riddle , any idea .

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7redorbs

Quote from: rcsquared on May 15, 2011, 02:17:59 AM
@ David, I've never gotten a 'locking' effect from any wiring wrap I've done. Has yours actually locked together? It should be easily testable by connecting the 'charge' wires to a small light or volt meter (neither of which I have at this time, although, I confess my interest is more in the engineering than in it's effects at this time).


My lack of results regarding a magnetic current locking things together, along with the necessity for the bolts and concrete have led me to consider that maybe it's not meant to be a pmh, but rather is a device that concentrates, separates, then gives off it's individual magnets.

Still, your wheel and what it's possibly doing is intriguing.

Anyway, I thought I'd post a few pics of my machine almost ready for reassembly. I hope any of you will feel free to tell me if I've missed something. Dimensions I can play with, but I am still having troubles identifying a few key components so I would greatly appreciate input from anyone who's been there. This is still a labor of love, but without these key components my theories wont come together. Thanks in advance!

Firstly thank you Doug, I've read many of your posts here, and am glad that I made you smile. For me there is no substitute for proper information, and now I've got it it's alarmingly entertaining listening to the gaps between Tesla' theory, and what scientists think they know about it! I appreciate sincerely that there is a requirement for me to explain further as to how the Leedskalnin wheel would operate perpetual motion. I think I can follow that lead, (forgive the electrical pun).

@rcquared do not lose faith buddy. I followed your experiments from the start. Does a glass of water exhibit waves like the ocean? Why? Now apply that theory to your device. (or See Dollards comments about OU type free energy devices over 500KVA, e.g. non small scale set-ups being basic the start of the threshold for a larger magnetic field of influence). Leedskalnin said magnets are only effective in great number, volume and surface area of your device matter, I expect.

I want to be specific, the speed that those magnets move per second, for a differential current (more than one overlay), we will need a wire of sufficient length, otherwise those north pole magnets will reach the end, and start rotating from the beginning again, before that South pole magnet goes in to chase it.

This is why long transmission lines exhibit these harmonics, because the speed of those North and South pole magnets going accross the wire, determine the polar lead time, if the wire is of an insufficient length then you will only have one type of magnet arrangement in your wire, if your wire is long, then your wheel can impress many kinds of magnets that travel around it the same time.

This is Tesla's dielectricity, and Ed was working with it in his chains, the wheel as suggested does provide those north and south pole magnets, in the wire, based on time, but those magnets we pass, they are spinning and turning at high speed, so, the length of the chain/wire is important. A small scale version might not be sufficiently long.

The ocean is long enough for dielectric currents to form because it's conductor is of sufficient length for both varied north and south pole magnets to be in it one after eachother. This is why Ed's wheel alternates between NN and SS poles, when it is rotated, over time, as to put those magnets , or lines of force into the chains where those magnets are in front of or behind eachother. Then they come back in again on the wheel like the planet earth into the "south polar" region of the wheel. The North polar and West Polar region of the wheel are terminated by wooden blocks.

I think we need to remember the African Ancients planned for this. They have passed distinct messages down to us, and in accordance with such they left phrases like "Go back and get it". Those "familiar in the art" might know what I'm talking about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sankofa

You'll see.... ;)


“Se wo were fi na wosankofa a yenkyi,"

"It is not wrong to go back for that which you have forgotten."

Edward Leedskalnin was not wrong to go back to it either. It's all there guys, please look ;)


My belief is that Edward Leedskalnins created a larger PMH, he stretched the magnetic field in the room to each side and above his wheel, and the magnetic currents recirculate around the chains back to the wheel, and, at high speed, they form an electromagnet, whereby the magnetic wheel is sitting at the equator of the current formations, from the wheel, they continue to push the wheel, perpetually through the magnet, and would be capable of turning the mass of his magnets in the centre point of the magnetic perpetual motion holder into electricity, in the same way that the earth's north and south magnetic poles are able to generate the lightning.

Leedskalnins moral was It is easy when you know how. Recreating it is not as easy, everything must be lined up perfectly, when Leedskalnin says that I do not think he is joking, because the middle is the critical thing that changes when lining things up. Please, consider this when referring to "Centre of Gravity". If TT Brown did it, maybe, Leedskalnin had a reason for his secrecy too.


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A

scotty1

Hi guy's......felt my ears twitching.  ;D
I haven't been around much due to my wife leaving, and i have to look after my son. Not much time for anything else these days.  :(
I'm just getting back into my experimental work now.
I actually saw a link to this thread on my facebook so i thought i better come see.
Saw my name mentioned and thought i better check in.  ;)
All of my work is gathering dust in my shed, which is a total mess right now!!!
Hopefully i can get back into the swing of things again this year.......maybe i'll find someone else who has done Ed's experiments????
The pmh is one thing, but the complete set of experiments and extrapolation is another.
Ed and Tesla had the same radio theory...more or less.....although Tesla didn't believe in 2 currents, or 2 electricities.....none the less their radio theories are the same concerning the propagation of currents through the ground.
@redorbs....it is interesting that Tesla described the propagation of ground currents at high speed as similar to the passage of the moon's shadow over the Earth....considering your posts.  ;)
I don't talk about Ed much these days....keep to myself on the subject because it is just too hard to describe something that isn't in line with most people's thinking.
For example....Ed said the magnets are the real life....try explaining that to everyone...hahahaha....it can't be done in a post or two.
Anyways...i'm still very much alive and kicking....will try to keep up from now on.
Thanks for the mention.  ;D
Scotty outooooooooooo

7redorbs

For those that enjoyed my previous posting, To make clear my suggestions further, here is a quote from Gary Peterson on the N6KPH yahoo usergroup, I hope he doesnt mind me reposting his comments on Tesla's wireless transmission crystal set. A remarkable conclusion is drawn, there is a field from the ground, and a field propagating in the aether. One is Clockwise? the other Anticlockwise?

This gets into counterspace, as Eric Dollard calls it, and involves framing in the exact engineering scenario that is described by Gary Peterson below. I hope it is well met by overunity members on this thread ;) Thanks for the positive response I really appreciated it ;)



A pair of waves are engendered [that is to say,  theoretically, two propagation modes are excited] by the 50 kW A.M. radio station near Landers, CA and its quarter wave-length vertical monopole with 120 quarter wave ground radials (tower and star radials).  One wave, Hertzian, is the over ground wave [TEM space wave], the other wave, the Telluric [LMD TM terrestrial conductor transmission line wave], is the underground wave.  These two waves arrive at the point of reception in their own distinct time frames, giving rise to a difference in phase.  Hence, multiple rings of interference patterns are produced.  Since the Hertzian portion, over ground, time frame is based upon the velocity of light [C], then the Telluric portion, underground, time frame gives the Telluric velocity, [which may be C x pi/2].

Two different types of wireless receivers or wavmeters are used to make this determination.  One has a quarter wave-length vertical monopole antenna with multiple shallow 16 AWG to 80 AWG bare copper ground wires 15 feet long in a star radial configuration, at its base.  No ground rods are used in construction of this underground counterpoise structure.  Better yet, an ungrounded magnetic loop radio antenna is used to assure the instrument is more sensitive to the over-the-ground TEM spacewave emissions of the A.M. broadcast transmitter.

The other is configured as a refined Tesla coil true wireless system receiving transformer with an adjustable elevated terminal and, offset some distance to one side, a single deep ground rod terminal electrode that is connected to the bottom of the helical resonator receiving element with a heavily insulated ground wire.  It is  otimized in this way for the reception of 'non-radiating' emissions that propagate from the A.M. broadcast transmitter to the receiver underground with an associated above ground charge-coupled electric field.  This type grounding is necessary for Tesla coil transmitting and receiving transformers to operate properly.

A dual trace oscilloscope connected to both of the receivers is used to observe the relative phase shifting of the two transmitted waves.

Hertz Wave Receiver     Tesla Coil Receiver

Magnetic Loop Antenna 

The advantage of this experimental protocol is that no authorization to operate a wireless transmitter is required; an already licensed transmitter provides the power.  We have the good fortune in the "Initiative" that, in theory at least, a quarter wave A.M. broadcast tower, and its 120 quarter wave ground radials, must emit a pair of waves as shown by Tesla in his basic diagrams.




Best,
A

Doug1

 Hay scotty
long time no hear.
Had a thought but I let it go.Nah not really,but it has been a couple days since. I was wondering if you ever placed a rogowski coil around the ends of the "U" section of the PMH.

scotty1

Hi Doug....never tried that before, although the pmh itself acts like a detector simply because it is so large....mine always shows a small ac current running in it due to the surrounding ac fields from the grid (I think).

@Redorbs, do you have a link to the info you posted. I'd like to see a drawing ect to get a better idea of the setup. It's alot to visualise on its own but i have a rough idea.  :)
Scotty.