FUELLESS CAR PROTOTYPE by ISMAEL MOTOR

[konehead]

Hi CC

Ok absolultey everything you wrote is wrong but dont worry about it eh.

Ismael uses only a common 200mah 9V battery to do his repelliing force demo, and with additon of 2 AAs in sereis too, so he has 12V.

that is ALL he has for power supply - then this goes throug a voltage cascadionbg device for 7500VDC in cap...

he also has big pickup winds around his primary, and he also employs 5 tiems at peaks coil-shorting and also resonate-chopped high speed frequency to the primary pulse into coil too plus recycling the power too via peicup winds - its NOT ANYTHIGN like you say of it being very simple anyone can do it type of descritpiton.

Ismael shorts his system 5 times at peaks, and the peaks he shorts are of the resonate frequency chopped input too so everyhting happens extremely fast.

he can shoot the 1 kilo up in air 30feet or so 16 times, in less than a second, and battery voltage drops from 12.4 to 11.8 after all those reps.

Thats what it is and it is true and I have seen it and helpe him do demos.

As for the coil shorting your debuniking descipiton is very badly done.

the coils shorting goes into DC capapcitor after FWBR

your are measuing the voltage in a capacitor that is filled by coil shorting at peaks.
there are lots of videos showing the effect on youtube and its best to not use reed swtiches they blow up easy that is the only thing you got right.

Best to use high amperage very low resistance bidirectional mosfets.

the coil-shorting power must go into DC type caps, not AC type, with no resistance across caps en they fill up,  then cap dump into load in two stage process, whre cap is disconnected from "source" when it hits load.

[k4zep]

Hi CC

Ok absolultey everything you wrote is wrong but dont worry about it eh.

Ismael uses only a common 200mah 9V battery to do his repelliing force demo, and with additon of 2 AAs in sereis too, so he has 12V.

that is ALL he has for power supply - then this goes throug a voltage cascadionbg device for 7500VDC in cap...

he also has big pickup winds around his primary, and he also employs 5 tiems at peaks coil-shorting and also resonate-chopped high speed frequency to the primary pulse into coil too plus recycling the power too via peicup winds - its NOT ANYTHIGN like you say of it being very simple anyone can do it type of descritpiton.

Ismael shorts his system 5 times at peaks, and the peaks he shorts are of the resonate frequency chopped input too so everyhting happens extremely fast.

he can shoot the 1 kilo up in air 30feet or so 16 times, in less than a second, and battery voltage drops from 12.4 to 11.8 after all those reps.

Thats what it is and it is true and I have seen it and helpe him do demos.

As for the coil shorting your debuniking descipiton is very badly done.

the coils shorting goes into DC capapcitor after FWBR

your are measuing the voltage in a capacitor that is filled by coil shorting at peaks.
there are lots of videos showing the effect on youtube and its best to not use reed swtiches they blow up easy that is the only thing you got right.

Best to use high amperage very low resistance bidirectional mosfets.

the coil-shorting power must go into DC type caps, not AC type, with no resistance across caps en they fill up,  then cap dump into load in two stage process, whre cap is disconnected from "source" when it hits load.

Good Morning Konehead,

Do you remember what size cap he used?  How many uF @ 7500 ++V?

Thanks
Ben K4ZEP

[CuriousChris]

Hi CC

Ok absolultey everything you wrote is wrong but dont worry about it eh.

As I said any one with an elementary understanding of electronics will understand nothing special is going on here. Wishing it was so, doesn't make it so.

Ismael uses only a common 200mah 9V battery to do his repelliing force demo, and with additon of 2 AAs in sereis too, so he has 12V.

that is ALL he has for power supply - then this goes throug a voltage cascadionbg device for 7500VDC in cap...

Where? I am yet to see this video? I pointed out I'd be impressed if I saw it but its not on his site and no one seems to know of the videos existence. If you can direct me to such a video please do. if not spoken words are meaningless. what was the quote from somewhere else on this site... Something about words without witness are just words.

by the way, AA batteries are 1.5v so two in series is 3v not 12v. Perhaps you didn't realise this.

he also has big pickup winds around his primary, and he also employs 5 tiems at peaks coil-shorting and also resonate-chopped high speed frequency to the primary pulse into coil too plus recycling the power too via peicup winds - its NOT ANYTHIGN like you say of it being very simple anyone can do it type of descritpiton.

Ismael shorts his system 5 times at peaks, and the peaks he shorts are of the resonate frequency chopped input too so everyhting happens extremely fast.

That's nice.

Perhaps you didn't notice or didn't care to read I did not comment on Ismaels setup, I only comment on the one video which I provided a link to. I was led to believe it is similar, If not then show me a circuit diagram (and video if possible) and I will look it over as well.

In case you haven't brushed up on your electrical theory of late. The speed at which the magnetic flux cuts the conductor (copper coil) effects the voltage. The faster the flux cuts the coil the higher the voltage. So he HAS to do it fast to create high voltages, but as I have already said. Voltage does not equal power. drag a comb through your hair it generates thousands of volts. so what. the most it can do is make your hair stand up, there is not enough energy to do anything else.

Also high speed switching generates a lot of electrical noise. That electrical noise is very inefficient, lots of radio waves (harmonics) emanating from the device and into the environment wasting energy. That's why a power drill or kitchen appliance will often effect a nearby TV or radio.

he can shoot the 1 kilo up in air 30feet or so 16 times, in less than a second, and battery voltage drops from 12.4 to 11.8 after all those reps.

Thats what it is and it is true and I have seen it and helpe him do demos.

As for the coil shorting your debuniking descipiton is very badly done.

If you say so, Its very hard to describe what is happening when you know half the audience doesn't have a clue about basic electrical theory. perhaps I was a little simple in my explanation.

To declare my 'debunking' (I thought I was explaining, but if that's what you think) as badly done, you must know better than me as to how the circuit works. Please describe exactly what happens. I'll put aside my years of experience as an electronics technician and listen to your side of the story. If you have a valid reply I'll happily agree to it. remember I am here too because I am not satisfied with the current state of affairs. But I won't be told black is white when I know otherwise. I may be eager to learn but I am not eager to be led up a garden path. If I wanted that I'd be in church right now.

the coils shorting goes into DC capapcitor after FWBR

your are measuing the voltage in a capacitor that is filled by coil shorting at peaks.
there are lots of videos showing the effect on youtube and its best to not use reed swtiches they blow up easy that is the only thing you got right.

Best to use high amperage very low resistance bidirectional mosfets.

the coil-shorting power must go into DC type caps, not AC type, with no resistance across caps en they fill up,  then cap dump into load in two stage process, whre cap is disconnected from "source" when it hits load.

When I stated he used the wrong caps, he (in the video) is using what are called electrolytic capacitors. very common. they are dc biased and for their size have a better capacity than most normal caps. BUT the output from the coils can be exceedingly high in voltage (due to the fast shorting). They are very voltage dependent and may blow if you subject them to excessive voltage. That's all, it was just an observation. Also I remind you it was about the video I linked to not Ismaels setup.

The only part of ismeals I saw was a 6 or 12v lead acid or gel battery with an inverter and some caps. These can really pack a punch! enough to push a weight into the air many times. a one kilo weight 16 times or perhaps a 16kg weight once? (harder but with good equipment can be done).
http://ismaelwater.com/i4.php <= this video

I could not see enough of Ismaels setup to give any conclusive comment so I refrained. only stating the obvious, he has plenty of power there to kick the weight into the air.

You said you saw it with your own Eyes, That's great. I truly wish I had been there. But I wasn't so I can only go on whats been presented and whats been presented is nothing special at all.

I said it earlier. Wishing it was so doesn't make it so.

So before you came back at me with some half arsed abuse. How about you sit down and write out a complete description as to what exactly is happening and why it works the way it does. Don't worry if its above my head I have plenty of engineer friends who can enlighten me on what is wrong with my understanding.

To PROVE me wrong is a bigger rebuke than just saying I am wrong or hurling pitiful abuse at me or anyone else who dares to consider that what has been said is perhaps not gospel. So go ahead prove me wrong!

If you believe the engineers I would show your proof to are wrong, that's Ok. Just don't be stupid like the foolish hippie I spoke to once, when I told her, If she was so convinced geothermal power is easy to do she should go to university get a degree and show the other (obviously more stupid) engineers what they are doing wrong. Her answer was, she didn't want to be corrupted like them. What an irrational cop out. Wants to tell the world they are liars, but too lazy to seek out the truth herself.


CC

[konehead]

hi Ben

I am sorry I dont know the cap uf size of the coil-blast but it is 7500VDCit holds in it. ITs a fairly larege silve rcap is all I know... It take 12seconds to fill up the cap between blasts with the 9V battery and 2 AAs for 12V
the blast knocks a coil that wieghts 1 kilo straight up in air approx 33feet it takes less than second to go that high.
I dont kniow the pulse length, but ismael told me that the primary coil inside the massive pikcup winds is bifilar 22 GA and the pickup winds all around it are 5 strands of 19GA wire, in paralell...the pikcup winds around the primary catch the backemf, and also the "ambient" flux too - when the inner primary ignites, it makes a big flux field that extand all round the primary, and the pikcup winds gather all this.
He uses no diodes! also he has speical cascading DC to step up the DC - I think this uses the coil shsorting technique.
Ismael first chops-in the primary pulse in a very fast resonate frequency, I dont know wha this frequyenc  is, but he cant have any iron in cores, or even nearby system or it will upset this resonate frequency and the thing wont work right - it is very touchy and very dangerous too with that 7500VDC in DC cap

[forest]

But what he uses instead of diodes ? how does he fill DC cap without rectifying "signals" ? 7,5kV diode bridge ? I didn't heard about something like that