http://youtu.be/0R9NGPpcGqs
Hi,
I am proud to go public, and share the findings of my group. This is a simple example of over-unity ready for America now.
Thanks,
Pierre
Edit:
The video link is now a go. Enjoy. The video is crammed with the facts you need to know.
I'll immediately drop the big question. Do you have a working self looped prototype that you can demonstrate? This concept falls under the "too good to be true" category but I wish you can prove me wrong. Without a running demo I doubt many will hop onto the replication bandwagon.
Absolutely. These days though, any videos can be faked though, so I chose to just disclose all the information, so it can undisputedly be validated by anyone, or duplicated.
America is hurting. And what the oil companies don't seem to realize, is that as they raise the price of a barrel, they lower the monetary value of their own money. Two hundred thousand dollars a few decades ago, was worth what one million dollars is today. The value of money is decreasing.
I am well taken care of financially, so my interest are not monetary with the technology. I just want this information to get out to the public, and be common knowledge, and to see society transformed.
You all, let me know what you want or need, to see and I'll make a video for it. Please don't make me hop through hoops though. So far, the Department of Energy, and the Obama administration has not responded to me over this info, I have shared with them through their website contacts portal, and that leaves me despondent in the administration.
Technologically, a company such as Baldor, has gotten so good at building motors, that they can simulate the product in computer software and have a fairly accurate idea of how the motor will perform when produced.
The efficiency curve of generator heads, and high efficiency motors, have both eclipsed each other where over-unity is now possible. And it is very easy to proves that 745 watts does not equal one horsepower in the real world, and visa versa, just going off of the wide range of performance figures of motors, and generator heads. That figure was created to assist in calculations, but is not realistic.
And of course all this information, I have not just made up. It is all inside of the text books taught at the University. And I stand behind my own claims, because the prototypes produced by my team, prove that what I am saying is possible, and so do the specifications provided by major motor/generator manufactures, and what's inside of the electrical engineering text books.
It was suggested that I put up a video with animations, demonstrations, and also setup a website. So I will go ahead and get on this.
No need to jump through hoops. There are many credible forum members that live in the USA that can confirm it by either a personal invitation or by lending the setup to perform a dry run.
It also won't be the first time, far from it, that someone claimed his ultra simple device "worked" in OU mode and wanted others to replicate it without showing them his setup. While in the end it was just a ploy to get people to build their ideas because it worked only in their heads and for some reason didn't have the means to build it themselves.
I'm just saying, I've been around a while on this forum, ideas are almost worthless without a prototype behind them ;). So I hope you'll show the prototype so at least some trust can be built.
If you have enough overunity or COP greater than about 1.5 than I think what would convince most people would be a setup with switching where you start from external power but then switch to where it is running from it's own power (looped). With motors the size you are talking about the you could do the switchover fast enough (with good placement of a couple switches - probably less than 1 second) that no appreciable slowdown in the motor would occur. In that case they should continue to run once external power is disconnected. A video of such a setup would be very convincing if done in a way to exclude the probability of hidden wiring.
I would love to, get me some names of trusted individuals and I can coordinate an in person demonstration with them. Or any mods reading this, please get in touch me.
Mark Dansie
Sterling Alan
fuzzytomcat
Tinsel Koala
MileHigh
Those are just a few from the top of my head. There are many more I've left out probably that others can suggest. Depending on your location I don't know if most if any would make the trip though. But since you're open to it I'm that's already a good starting sign. So I hope someone will come forward.
As broli mentioned many here have seen so many promising things come along that end up fading into the misty background of the unknown or end up being fakes that you will probably see some serious scrutiny and lots of questions. But if this is real and you proceed with a bit of armor plating for your ego you will have a great following. However do expect some downright trolls to jump in and slam every little thing you do as things here are not heavily moderated and I suspect the energy barons set their trolls to lurking here so as to keep their stranglehold on humanity. I think we've also seen a few people come here with great promises who probably are from the energy cartels hoping to discourage people once they have spent hundreds or thousands of dollars to try something that could not produce any overunity.
One question - what are your thoughts on where the excess energy is coming from? Good luck in your endeavor here.
You may want to give your general location such as which state in the U.S. if your are in the U.S. but I would suggest not getting any more specific than that publicly. Once people know your general location others here can come forward offering to make a trip to see a demo and you can check with the regulars here to verify it is a trusted individual. As you probably know if you have something that can change the economics of power in a big way you need to beware of those who may stand to lose billions of dollars if this is real. The best thing you can do is spell out in writing as much detail as you can about how this works and post it here and other places like energeticforum.com. Getting all the info out there clearly so people can replicate will protect you from potential threats. Although it sounds fairly straight forward in your video having it down on paper (or PDF etc.) with at least some illustrations will clarify it greatly.
I am located in Texas. And am available to do a demonstration in Manitoba, Canada; San Jose, California; Dallas, Texas; and Lexington, South Carolina. Between all those locations, we can work out the logistics. My group also has a power purchase agreement signed with one of the major countries in South America.
Thanks for the suggestion (e2matrix), I'll get a PDF put together explaining the tech, with illustrations.
Great question (e2matrix), and I welcome questions from anyone on the topic at hand.
e2matrix asked: "What are your thoughts on where the excess energy is coming from?"
My Reply: I've struggled a bit with this question in my own mind. And I suppose, the excess energy has something to do with the dynamics of magnetic fields. Magnetic fields are very interesting phenomena, and a fundamental component of nature. According to quantum electrodynamics, the carrier force of electromagnetism, is a photon. A photon is a gauge boson. In case of the motor/generator, we aren't dealing with actual photon emissions, rather, we are dealing with virtual photons, which remain coupled to their electron counterpart. It is already clear, from observing permanent magnet materials, that a static magnetic field can be created by forming a lattice structure which cause the magnetic domains to align into a strong dipole. This permanent, static, magnetic field, is a result of the intrinsic spin of the electrons around the nucleus. An electron in motion, under experimental observation, always emits virtual photons. Where does the energy which maintains the spin state of an atom come from? That's a question I don't know how to answer, and requires scientific inquiry backed up by empirical data. But it does open the mind, to just how interesting magnetic fields are. What factors, influence, the strength of a magnetic field and how much work it can perform? These are factors, we can peer into through the technology I have shared, and we can see how manipulating certain variables, influence the total electrical energy out of a system.
I would like to point out, that there is a specific reason, my team and I choose to use off the shelf components that can be put together like a lego set. We believe, that significant resources, have been invested into making motors, generators, and VFDs, on the market. Companies are constantly striving, to have the best product on the market place, and to cram out as much efficiency as possible. A lot of thought, time, and money goes into these products, so we can count on their reliability, and we know that the specifications are accurate, as tolerances are very exacting. There are components on the marketplace to do just about anything you need, and then you can assemble them together as a lego set, when specifications are matched, and calculations are made correctly. All of what I am sharing with you, is backed up by math, hard calculations, and you can count on the exact same result every time - nature is governed by repeat-ability in her laws. There is no magical frequency, where if you get the thing tuned just right, you suddenly get overunity. At least not with what I have to share. Just the more exacting your tolerances are, and the more dialed in you are to the mathematical equations on paper, the more idealized your results will be in the real world.
Now on the subject of motors, a two pole motor, is more efficient per horsepower than say an eight pole motor. And here's why, as the motor pole count goes up, the rpm goes down, and the torque thus increases for the same horsepower out mechanical. The current draw of a motor is directly correlated to the torque. This fact holds true in all instances with DC and AC motors. As the torque of a higher pole count motor increases, so does its current draw. Due to the inefficiency of high pole count motors, and their clunky size, they are highly undesirable to use, unless a situation necessitates it. You can confirm what I am saying by going onto the websites of major motor manufacturers, and look at the trend in specifications. I would like to point out however, that you may find the four pole induction motors to be more efficient than the two pole induction motors, and my response to this is as follows... This is due to the high slip in a two pole induction motor which translates to a lot of energy loss in the armature. Also, four pole induction motors, are more common in applications, than two pole induction motors, and thus more time is invested into making these motors as efficient as possible.
The inverse holds true between motors and generators, as the pole count of a generator goes up, so does its torque requirement, and thus the current the generator produces. But the voltage does not decrease in the process, it remains the same for the given horsepower mechanical. Volts x Amps = Watts. The Volts are technically free, because were aren't paying for them in this applicaqtion, but we can create more amperage, and thus we create more watts out from our generator.
Look at this again, RPM x TORQUE = HORSEPOWER. Our motor outputs one horsepower. Our generator requires one horsepower. Our motor is very efficient because it is off a low pole count and thus produces lower torque, and thus consume less current. Our generator on the other hand, has many poles, so it requires lots of torque, but produces lots of current. So as we gear down the low pole count prime mover motor, to increase its torque, we gain current. Even though the RPM dropped, due to the high pole count of the generator head, the voltage remaines constant. We created overunity. This is law. It always happens, and no matter what you do, you can't get nature to not do it, if you gear for the correct rpm. And even if you don't gear for exactly the correct rpm, it just means you won't get as much power out as you could, and you will have off specification voltages. There is fiddle room here.
-Pierre
Quote from: bradagilah on April 15, 2012, 06:59:21 PM
I would love to, get me some names of trusted individuals and I can coordinate an in person demonstration with them. Or any mods reading this, please get in touch me.
Hello Pierre,
I'm in Houston and would be interested in coming to view a demonstration if/when you make it available. I will PM you my contact information.
Regards,
Luther
Thank you for sharing.. I'll be watching this thread.. looking forward to learning more on your system.
I emailed Sterling links to your video and this thread.
Thanks.
The thread is very active on the ATS forums:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread830762/pg1
Check the thread out, to read up on what everyone else has said, and what I have replied. Also, I will be checking back and fourth between the two forums.
-Pierre
My buddy Luther in Texas offered to come see your demo, so I will offer also. I am located in San Jose, CA. and I will PM you my contact info.
Dave
Quote from: bradagilah on April 16, 2012, 02:22:34 AM
Thanks.
The thread is very active on the ATS forums:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread830762/pg1 (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread830762/pg1)
Check the thread out, to read up on what everyone else has said, and what I have replied. Also, I will be checking back and fourth between the two forums.
-Pierre
I am registered there on ATS.. I no longer post due to all the trolls and rude mods.. I would focus on the ou forums.
I started a thread over at OUR.. http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1417.msg22693;topicseen#msg22693
Also get in contact with Sterling over at PESWiki.. http://www.peswiki.com/index.php/Main_Page
When posting on ATS you must be sure you're made of Steel, it contains a lot of armchair scientists and people who can endlessly debate about nothing.
Since you're open to visits imo there's no more need to waste your time on explaining the concept any further, it's quite straightforward already. IF you're going to invite someone please make it public as well as inviting strangers can also be dangerous. Be prepared for a lot of scrutiny and I hope the invited or you can record the visit too.
Thanks broli. That's a good idea, and I agree with your assertation going forward. I need a bit of R&R now, after, having put up a fight with everyone across different forums. But I'll proceed to make arrangements with everyone. Stay tuned.
Based on this motor: http://goo.gl/I0IqJ (http://goo.gl/I0IqJ)
And this generator: http://goo.gl/rqopq (http://goo.gl/rqopq)
I did a quick analysis on paper. I'm not making any conclusions but from what the data sheets provide and from the simple equations you can see what I get from the file attached.
Is this also how you did the power calculation to find that OU factor? If someone notices a slip somewhere please do comment.
Edit: I believe I already see an error in input power, I forgot it was a 3 phase motor meaning the equation needs a multiplication by the squareroot of 3. Which gives a total input power of 6124.47W making the setup not so OU anymore :p.
You thinking about it intently. Very good. Consider this also, the generator head is also three phase, so it experiences the square root of 3 lift in power, on top of the 5kW.
Attached below is a PDF Patent that claims Over Unity.
It also uses a Motor & Generator setup.
.
Quote from: bradagilah on April 16, 2012, 08:37:30 AM
You thinking about it intently. Very good. Consider this also, the generator head is also three phase, so it experiences the square root of 3 lift in power, on top of the 5kW.
It would be very strange to put 5kW in the datasheet as rated output while not considering polyphase power output. What's the point of using a single phase power output value for a 3 phase generator? That's a dangerous slope I'm not willing to climb ;) .
bradagilah, Thanks for the excellent answer on the possible source of excess energy. It's actually a bit over my level of knowledge unless I dig in a bit more but it sounds reasonable. We've got a physics professor around here (member JouleSeeker) who along with a number of others may have a better understanding of the theory. Given a couple days advance notice I can probably make it to a Texas demo. Also member 'konehead' is a motor genius who's been buidling and rebuilding motors for at least 15 years or more. I'll make sure he is aware of this thread.
I think from what I'd call a lack of replies in this thread that a lot of the regulars here have not yet become aware of it yet as like myself you often get entrenched in a particular thread and some of the more active threads have so much new info every day that you just go straight to them. I'll say at this point it sounds very promising and I think more will jump in here once it gets noticed.
Ah, I see a few more have jumped in since I missed seeing page 2 here before posting. Glad we've got some here who can run the calcs on all this. Thanks broli. I would suggest before we kill this with calcs though that we see an actual test too. And the real bottom line is whether it can be looped (self-running) and still have power out beyond power needed to run itself. Did bradagilah say it had been looped or am I just in wishful dream mode?
Quote from: FatBird on April 16, 2012, 08:47:02 AM
Attached below is a PDF Patent that claims Over Unity.
It also uses a Motor & Generator setup.
.
There is a 7 page message thread about that device here that includes input from the inventor. It does not seem like anything worked out from that and it seemed a possible scam: http://www.overunity.com/3130/jesse-mcqueens-power-generator/75/
Or at the least it does not seem like the inventor had it together enough to do anything other than solicit money.
@bradagilah
Can you share the math used?
Quote from: Lutherg on April 16, 2012, 12:56:20 AM
Hello Pierre,
I'm in Houston and would be interested in coming to view a demonstration if/when you make it available. I will PM you my contact information.
Regards,
Luther
Hello Pierre,
I tried to PM you but it failed because there is no email address for you. You can reach me at LutherG@hotmail.com and I will get you my cell and other contact information.
regards,
Luther
Quote from: broli on April 16, 2012, 09:47:33 AM
It would be very strange to put 5kW in the datasheet as rated output while not considering polyphase power output. What's the point of using a single phase power output value for a 3 phase generator? That's a dangerous slope I'm not willing to climb ;) .
Just as with a polyphase motor, the rated output on the nameplate is just for a single phase... So a 5kW 3PH generator head gives you 5kW per phase (and be careful how you interpret that statement, because there is more to that...). All generator and motor manufacturers, use this standard on the name plate. The FL (full load) information, on the motor's nameplate, is not indicting the polyphase output, it is indicating the output of a single phase, and that is why you had to multiply the rating for a single phase by the square root of 3. The square root of 3, has to do with the power lift, from the interacting phase angles - 5kW would not be 15kW, it is 8.65kW. If that doesn't make sense to you, it's because you don't have the prior training to interpret the information. I could be misleading all of you, and you wouldn't know otherwise because of a lack of knowledge in this area... But fortunately I am not. All the information I am having to explain to all of you, I would not have to explain to someone who already is an expert in the field of motors. I am not making this information up, it is inside of the University text book.
You don't necessarily need to apply the squ3 lift on the motors input in your math if your only working with three phase and you already know this..., but if your going to do that, then you have to do it on the gen heads output as well, so that your math is accurate.
Quote from: bradagilah on April 16, 2012, 05:04:30 PM
Just as with a polyphase motor, the rated output on the nameplate is just for a single phase... So a 5kW 3PH generator head gives you 5kW per phase (and be careful how you interpret that statement, because there is more to that...). All generator and motor manufacturers, use this standard on the name plate. The FL (full load) information, on the motor's nameplate, is not indicting the polyphase output, it is indicating the output of a single phase, and that is why you had to multiply the rating for a single phase by the square root of 3. The square root of 3, has to do with the power lift, from the interacting phase angles - 5kW would not be 15kW, it is 8.65kW. If that doesn't make sense to you, it's because you don't have the prior training to interpret the information. I could be misleading all of you, and you wouldn't know otherwise because of a lack of knowledge in this area... But fortunately I am not. All the information I am having to explain to all of you, I would not have to explain to someone who already is an expert in the field of motors. I am not making this information up, it is inside of the University text book.
You don't necessarily need to apply the squ3 lift on the motors input in your math if your only working with three phase and you already know this..., but if your going to do that, then you have to do it on the gen heads output as well, so that your math is accurate.
I admit I'm not an expert in interpreting technical datasheets of a generator, I just know the physics and math behind it. I did not know the rated power output used in the datasheet is for a single phase only. If what you say is true, and can be confirmed, then the generator output indeed also needs to be multiplied by sqrt(3). The efficiency would become 141% again and the excess power becomes 2535.78W in the case I posted earlier.
Quote from: bradagilah on April 16, 2012, 05:04:30 PM
Just as with a polyphase motor, the rated output on the nameplate is just for a single phase... So a 5kW 3PH generator head gives you 5kW per phase (and be careful how you interpret that statement, because there is more to that...). All generator and motor manufacturers, use this standard on the name plate. The FL (full load) information, on the motor's nameplate, is not indicting the polyphase output, it is indicating the output of a single phase, and that is why you had to multiply the rating for a single phase by the square root of 3.
Sorry but this guy is mixing up Full Load current with output power. Yes the current is reduced if the motor is 3 phase instead of single phase. But if a motor is rated for 5 HP that is the total output at the shaft not the output of one phase. I worked as an industrial maintenance electrician for 30 years. This guy needs to go back to school. Just go to any motor manufacturer and look at how motors are rated by them. Wikipedia also says motors are rated by the power at the output shaft. I didn't take the time to look up the actual data on generators but I am sure the rated output of a generator is for all phases combined also.
Respectfully,
Carroll
Quote from: citfta on April 16, 2012, 07:52:14 PM
Sorry but this guy is mixing up Full Load current with output power. Yes the current is reduced if the motor is 3 phase instead of single phase. But if a motor is rated for 5 HP that is the total output at the shaft not the output of one phase. I worked as an industrial maintenance electrician for 30 years. This guy needs to go back to school. Just go to any motor manufacturer and look at how motors are rated by them. Wikipedia also says motors are rated by the power at the output shaft. I didn't take the time to look up the actual data on generators but I am sure the rated output of a generator is for all phases combined also.
Respectfully,
Carroll
No. Your mixing up what I wrote, with what ever is going on in your head. That's a baseless statement on your part to say current is reduced, if the motor is 3-phase over single phase. What exactly do you maintain, light switches and electrical outlets? Some of my personnel, have been trained by the Navy, and they are the men, who keep the birds up in the air - when the electronics of an aircraft fail, they fix it. Try again sherlock, motors are CATEGORIZED by the power at the output shaft - motors however are rated based on many NEMA specifications that are on the motors name plate. You didn't take the time to do proper research, and now your talking out your ass. Go grab a text book and learn how generators and motors are rated and categorized.
quick question that arises from watching. Curious of course...
Is what your talking about similar to this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzogERiLpsw&feature=relmfu
Discussed on this thread here:
http://www.overunity.com/3764/self-running-900-watt-fuelless-electrical-generator-is-this-new/
Thanks
GEM
God’s Electricity Machine
self generating electricity machine
this is relatively easy to build
and should be very cheap
built out of junkyard parts even
to reproduce in any scale, any voltage,
(I happen to be disabled + unable to build this)
This should be very cheap to build
I know that it seems too simple to work
but I proved that it works with my electric wheelchair experiment
if you put DC power into a large wheel turning very slowly
and then take AC power out of the small wheel(s)
that spin hundreds of times faster
Help me, help others, help themselves
we could start a new + improved industrial age
one that not only cause little mess of pollution
like in the original industrial age brought with it
This one could actually help our environment
by producing costless to run air and water filters
we could possibly have every back yard mechanic
coming out with very specialized adoptions
for this free energy box, cube, machine
And how, you might add, did I come up with this,
I didn’t, it was God,(Holy Spirit) Who showed this to me,
When I ask Him to show me how I might help
The Saints survive the soon coming great tribulation
how to get electricity to generate itself.
I have stumbled upon the
PERPETUAL MOTION machine
Yes,,,,, and even better than perpetual,,,,
,,, this machine actually makes its own power,
as in â€" this system uses passing time to gain electrical energy,
yessss,,, we can let electricity generate itself,,,,
No more dependency on OIL, and the middle east oil supplies,,,
and the world says,
Now hold on just a moment,,,
I know that this is not a true example of perpetual motion,,,
Because of bearings alone,
or should I say, the fact that they will wear out eventually,
That is why I added the word "machine" afterwards
This is a man made machine,
Which only mimics perpetual motion,
As it continues to run, seemingly forever,
Producing electricity as a side effect, (bonus !!!)
This is a gift from God,,,
As He has shared this with me
To share with the world,
I do not know why my Lord has chosen to share this with me, at this time,
Maybe it is because my Father knows that time is short,
and He wants to show all mankind,
just one more way that He is Love,,,
God has shown me,
a way of gaining free energy,
seemingly from nothing,
This came to me when I was over visiting at the park,
I was thinking about how electricity worked,
and how my electric chair had the ability to charge itself,
on most any type of downhill run,
(as it uses an electrical breaking system)
I don't know if you know anything about me or not,
but learning new things is one of my greatest pleasures,,, (especially about God)
and,,,,
When investigating how things work,,,
I always have to push the limits,,, lol
not only learning how things works,
but then tinker with trying to improve them,,,,, lol
I went with the idea of a ten speed bicycle, (something that I knew about)
Where I wanted to go uphill in tenth gear, (least rotations of the pedals)=motor
and then downhill in first gear, (most rotations of pedals)=motor
so, I would go uphill at full speed,
and then downhill at slow speed
So,,, now I had something to experiment with,
now I had measurable tests to do,
(I had to set my chair to max torq=1st gear and max speed=10th gear)
I started off with a low battery, (so that I did not have the power to drive all the way up)
driving up a long steep hill at the park in the full speed position, (tenth gear)
(until my chair would not go any further, as my battery was dead) it was a long run
and then going back down the hill in slow speed, (first gear) = higher multiple factor
(not super slow, as I had time limits = only 4-6 hours of sunlight left)
Then I immediately turned around, and went back up at full speed,
And guess what happened,,,,
I could travel twenty feet higher up the hill,
so, I had a net gain of electricity,,, (a blessing)
Logic and common sense says,
that you will have energy losses,
do to heat from friction if nothing else,
causing you to not be able to make it as far up the hill,
the second time you drive up it,
Well, I first thought that this might just be a strange happening,
so I did it again and again, doing it three times,
each time gaining twenty more feet, up a steep hill, (60 feet total)
Not only did I do it three times that day,
but I later thought that this went against logic, (I must have dreamed it)
and I did the whole experiment over,
with the same electricity gaining results
I know that there are inner workings of the motor + drive system,
that I have not even roughly looked into,
to find out why + how it works like a 10 speed,
Sorry, but I have no time to color + shade in this drawing,
I could only give you this rough sketch,
and let others get the enjoyment of coloring in the details,
may this bring you at least some of the thrills that I have experien-ced,
when I was showed this amazing reasoning,
Please read (Luke 18:29-30)
Someone could easily build a self supplying energy producing power supply,
With a 12v battery,(not needed) two motors, a small and large pulley, and a belt,
You connect the motor with the big pulley up as a power in, driver motor,
And then connect the motor,(s) with the small pulley to be used as an output
When you put power into the drive motor,
You get out a multiple of this power, (on each of the out generators)
Compared to the size difference of the drive motor, (large pulley)
And your output or generator motor. (small pulley)
I will be emailing this to all of our Canadian government
as well as to as many news services that I can
to help get this new technology out in our world fast
and start helping our environment
believe me,,, I know how unbelievable this sounds
I had to repeat the experiment three times
to get a better understanding of how to believe what I was seeing
and then I even thought that I must have dreamed it
and had to repeat the exercise the three times again, about a week later
All I need is, for one person to take this serious
and to actually take the minimal time to build this contraption for me
I feel that this will take off like wildfire
as soon as the world gets a chance to take a look at this
THIS IS A FREE FOR ALL
Perpetual Motion machine
self generating electricity
Just think of it, We could all have our own stand alone, self powering electricity generators, with only the initial cost of building it,(could be made of junkyard parts). These power manufacturers could be producing a seemingly endless supply of free electricity, all for the cost of upkeep. It is easy enough to build, as all you need is a twelve volt battery, two 12 Volt motors,(one DC + one AC) one large pulley, and at least one small pulley, a belt that fits the pulleys, and the hardware to put these parts together.(nuts + bolts + framing to mount on). This could even be done with 120 volt motors, to produce power for yourself, or to use as an income when you sell it back to the power company.
((along with electronics, such as an AC and a DC motor, a battery=(not needed), wires, a bridge rectifier and a voltage regulator, of equal voltage))
((all of the electronics to run this could be easily built on a simple proto-board))
(you might even be able to use any voltage motors - even 120 Volt)
((taking your output from the ac motor leads))
(((as I don’t think the battery is a necessary component)))
It is a very simple mechanism in its workings, as it works by putting power into the motor with the big pulley attached, and you take power out from the motor-(generator) with the small pulley attached. The output motor, or several motors even, the one(s) with the small pulley attached, rotates a lot faster than your input motor,(more speed = increase in power). There is a belt connecting the two,(or more) motors together, that can be as small as you want, depending on if you required size constraints, or as large as you want, to accommodate multiple output generators,,, like in our petrol fuelled power stations, they could be easily modified to run on their own power. I cannot be sure, without having results from tests, but I think that we can gain more power, with every output generator that you add with a small pulley. But there is a warning that I have to give you, of a possible haardous flaw in this free electricity generating system.
CAUTON,,,,,,,,,,
If this system is allowed to run freely,
without having any outside drain of power,
this system will overcharge itself,
and may even explode.
So, please,,,
be careful when experimenting with this mechanism.
Maybe this should be called an Energy Multiplier,
as you always need at least a little power,
to generate the greater amount of power.
I later found a site on the web that said
That if you published something on the web
But did not choose to patent it
You would open it up to be used freely by everybody
So,,, this was the choice I decided on
To put the plans out on the web for all to use freely
Why not let electricity generate itself,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Benefits to humanity:
- To be an effective way to decrease our negative environmental effects on our earth,
- To be able to give free electrical power to all people,
- To greatly reduce our oil dependency,
- To give the Middle East less power,
- To lessen the chance of our need for oil getting us into another war,
- To put a needed boast to our economy,
--- by creating many new items to manufacture and sell
I want to get this out in the market fast,,,
so that there are many of these around,
for everybody to get their hands on,
so that we can all have free running electric cars
As well as having their own 120 volt power supplies
there is a full diagram of this device at
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/ (http://free-energy.yolasite.com/)
how about energy multiplication
where you have two equal voltage motors
one is DC for input
which has a large pulley attached to it
the second motor is AC
on a much smaller pulley
this way your driver motor only turns a few times
while your output motor spins hundreds of times
you get a multiple of power out
compared to the power you put in
you run your output motor, (or multiple motors)
through a full wave bridge rectifier and voltage regulator
to power your DC input motor
and take AC power straight off your AC generator
You could start this system running by giving the big pulley a little turn
We could all be putting power back into the system, by building a rough Perpetual Motion mechanisms out of junk yard parts even. I would imagine that the manufacturing industry would quickly come out with these mechanisms in all sizes, so that people could easily supplement their incomes by selling power to the power companies
PLEASE let us act FAST
Let this be a Gift to all mankind
this energy multiplication system works
it does not work on electronics calculations
but works on large speed differences
between your input and your output motors
this major multiplication of rpms is great enough
to negate any loss due to friction losses
because of the vast circumference difference
between your input motor (extremely slow)
and the output motor (extremely fast)
ok, lets just keep talking about how this wont work
never really even trying to build it, (it is too far fetched to believe)
and let this blessing to mankind be missed
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/ (http://free-energy.yolasite.com/)
I have a great idea
If someone could build this device
on a circuit diagnostic program
they could both prove that it works
and we would have a video of it to put on utube
let’s change the world
Quote from: citfta on April 16, 2012, 07:52:14 PM
Sorry but this guy is mixing up Full Load current with output power. Yes the current is reduced if the motor is 3 phase instead of single phase. But if a motor is rated for 5 HP that is the total output at the shaft not the output of one phase. I worked as an industrial maintenance electrician for 30 years. This guy needs to go back to school. Just go to any motor manufacturer and look at how motors are rated by them. Wikipedia also says motors are rated by the power at the output shaft. I didn't take the time to look up the actual data on generators but I am sure the rated output of a generator is for all phases combined also.
Respectfully,
Carroll
The discussion was not about the HP rating of the motor, all of that adds up. We were talking about the output rating of the generator which does not have an HP rating only a Watt rating. I agree with bradagilah on this one, please be constructive if you intend to post
Edit: Tried mailing ginlong about the output rating of the gen but the mail keeps bouncing back, something is up with their mailserver, that's a bummer.
Hi broli,
Please read what I quoted from his post again. He clearly says motor nameplate. The reason I used HP instead of KW is because HP is the way motors are normally rated. To convert this to KW simply multiply the HP by .746 and this will give you the KW rating. Go and look up how motors are rated and you will see as I said they are rated for the total power at the shaft and not for each phase. This will make a big difference in your calculations. And just for the record I also have training in electronics and electrical power. I graduated with a 4.0 GPA.
Quote from: bradagilah on April 16, 2012, 05:04:30 PM
Just as with a polyphase motor, the rated output on the nameplate is just for a single phase... So a 5kW 3PH generator head gives you 5kW per phase (and be careful how you interpret that statement, because there is more to that...). All generator and motor manufacturers, use this standard on the name plate. The FL (full load) information, on the motor's nameplate, is not indicting the polyphase output, it is indicating the output of a single phase, and that is why you had to multiply the rating for a single phase by the square root of 3. The square root of 3, has to do with the power lift, from the interacting phase angles - 5kW would not be 15kW, it is 8.65kW. If that doesn't make sense to you, it's because you don't have the prior training to interpret the information. I could be misleading all of you, and you wouldn't know otherwise because of a lack of knowledge in this area... But fortunately I am not. All the information I am having to explain to all of you, I would not have to explain to someone who already is an expert in the field of motors. I am not making this information up, it is inside of the University text book.
You don't necessarily need to apply the squ3 lift on the motors input in your math if your only working with three phase and you already know this..., but if your going to do that, then you have to do it on the gen heads output as well, so that your math is accurate.
Respectfully,
Carroll
Again the motor is not the issue here, and what he said is correct on the motor. The HP rating is power at the shaft he did not deny that for the motor. And he's right about the rest of the ratings of the motor being for a single phase hence why I corrected my equation for the motor input. So please just get over that already.
The question here is the GENERATOR OUTPUT rating! If what the datasheet shows is for a single phase only then his statement stands and this is what I'm trying to get confirmed.
So I did some digging in NEMA standards for motors and generators and this is what I found under 33.1.1.2. At least this particular standard says the power rating does have the phase amount (constant m) included. But already I see that the datasheet of the linked generator is lacking quite a bit of information compared to what NEMA standards require. And there's also no reason to believe they followed those standards. I'll look further.
I think that considering the amount of effort put into suppression over the last 100 years that we might not want to put complete faith in ratings on nameplates. Or anything else taught in the mainstream. Mainstream teaching has been shown to be intentionally misleading and while it gets us power and working circuits it certainly has had important pieces of info removed or changed to keep us slaves to the energy cartels. Anyone who doubts that has not done their homework. So speculate on the numbers but don't close the door on this until a demo has been done.
I made a mistake in the calculations. Sorry. None of this works.
Quote from: bradagilah on April 18, 2012, 10:11:08 PM
I made a mistake in the calculations. Sorry. None of this works.
That was fast,. only took 3 days this time.
did some mysterious force intervene? or was he full of it the whole time? ,... same as romerouk and everything before and after,.
We will all have our own interpretations,.
This is getting so predictable,...
Don't suppose anyone made a copy of the video?
Quote from: Jimboot on April 19, 2012, 12:55:47 AM
Don't suppose anyone made a copy of the video?
There's nothing special about the video he just explained the concept. The concept is simple and straightforward, fast motor -gear- slow generator that's it.
Quote from: bradagilah on April 15, 2012, 04:53:16 PM
http://youtu.be/0R9NGPpcGqs (http://youtu.be/0R9NGPpcGqs)
Hmm,
it says the video is private.
Please can you make it public, so we can have a look at it ?
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.
In spite of his personal attacks on me I will give him the benefit of the doubt. I think he may have thought he really had it figured out. I worked for about 30 years maintaining industrial equipment of all kinds. I have met several engineers with electrical degrees that really did not understand how motors work in the real world. They have all this book knowledge but do not know how to apply it to a real world situation. If he had dropped his very arrogant and rude behavior he and we might have learned something together. When you start asking someone about the technical aspects of what they are proposing and they answer with rudeness and personal attacks you can be pretty sure they don't really understand as much as they think they do.
Respectfully,
Carroll
One multiplication factor is
the circumference difference between
the pulleys attached to
the DC drive motor (very large)
and the AC generator(s) (smaller the better)Another multiplication factor
could be the number of AC generators
that you have on this one drive motor + pulley
it could be tens or even hundreds of them on a very large belt
I wish that I had the dexterity
and the experimental equipment
to be able to see these tests work for myself
could I get reports on how your experiments went
but remember the circuit simulator software
http://www.linear.com/designtools/software/ (http://www.linear.com/designtools/software/)
I should be able to use it to do experiments myself
[font=]and even see the figures on the multiplication factors
If, I can ever figure out how to use it, lol
this is so simple
I cannot understand why
this was not discovered long ago
I think that we are going to see some major changes
I have discovered some other amazing things
including some awesome joystick advances at
http://ultimatejoysticks.yolasite.com/ (http://ultimatejoysticks.yolasite.com/)
and
a virtual reality games room at
http://ultimatevideogamecontrols.yolasite.com/ (http://ultimatevideogamecontrols.yolasite.com/)
Later,
. . . . joe[/font]
Quote from: one_christian_warrior on April 17, 2012, 12:13:42 AM
GEM
God’s Electricity Machine
self generating electricity machine
this is relatively easy to build
and should be very cheap
built out of junkyard parts even
to reproduce in any scale, any voltage,
(I happen to be disabled + unable to build this)
This should be very cheap to build
I know that it seems too simple to work
but I proved that it works with my electric wheelchair experiment
if you put DC power into a large wheel turning very slowly
and then take AC power out of the small wheel(s)
that spin hundreds of times faster
Help me, help others, help themselves
we could start a new + improved industrial age
one that not only cause little mess of pollution
like in the original industrial age brought with it
This one could actually help our environment
by producing costless to run air and water filters
we could possibly have every back yard mechanic
coming out with very specialized adoptions
for this free energy box, cube, machine
And how, you might add, did I come up with this,
I didn’t, it was God,(Holy Spirit) Who showed this to me,
When I ask Him to show me how I might help
The Saints survive the soon coming great tribulation
how to get electricity to generate itself.
I have stumbled upon the
PERPETUAL MOTION machine
Yes,,,,, and even better than perpetual,,,,
,,, this machine actually makes its own power,
as in â€" this system uses passing time to gain electrical energy,
yessss,,, we can let electricity generate itself,,,,
No more dependency on OIL, and the middle east oil supplies,,,
and the world says,
Now hold on just a moment,,,
I know that this is not a true example of perpetual motion,,,
Because of bearings alone,
or should I say, the fact that they will wear out eventually,
That is why I added the word "machine" afterwards
This is a man made machine,
Which only mimics perpetual motion,
As it continues to run, seemingly forever,
Producing electricity as a side effect, (bonus !!!)
This is a gift from God,,,
As He has shared this with me
To share with the world,
I do not know why my Lord has chosen to share this with me, at this time,
Maybe it is because my Father knows that time is short,
and He wants to show all mankind,
just one more way that He is Love,,,
God has shown me,
a way of gaining free energy,
seemingly from nothing,
This came to me when I was over visiting at the park,
I was thinking about how electricity worked,
and how my electric chair had the ability to charge itself,
on most any type of downhill run,
(as it uses an electrical breaking system)
I don't know if you know anything about me or not,
but learning new things is one of my greatest pleasures,,, (especially about God)
and,,,,
When investigating how things work,,,
I always have to push the limits,,, lol
not only learning how things works,
but then tinker with trying to improve them,,,,, lol
I went with the idea of a ten speed bicycle, (something that I knew about)
Where I wanted to go uphill in tenth gear, (least rotations of the pedals)=motor
and then downhill in first gear, (most rotations of pedals)=motor
so, I would go uphill at full speed,
and then downhill at slow speed
So,,, now I had something to experiment with,
now I had measurable tests to do,
(I had to set my chair to max torq=1st gear and max speed=10th gear)
I started off with a low battery, (so that I did not have the power to drive all the way up)
driving up a long steep hill at the park in the full speed position, (tenth gear)
(until my chair would not go any further, as my battery was dead) it was a long run
and then going back down the hill in slow speed, (first gear) = higher multiple factor
(not super slow, as I had time limits = only 4-6 hours of sunlight left)
Then I immediately turned around, and went back up at full speed,
And guess what happened,,,,
I could travel twenty feet higher up the hill,
so, I had a net gain of electricity,,, (a blessing)
Logic and common sense says,
that you will have energy losses,
do to heat from friction if nothing else,
causing you to not be able to make it as far up the hill,
the second time you drive up it,
Well, I first thought that this might just be a strange happening,
so I did it again and again, doing it three times,
each time gaining twenty more feet, up a steep hill, (60 feet total)
Not only did I do it three times that day,
but I later thought that this went against logic, (I must have dreamed it)
and I did the whole experiment over,
with the same electricity gaining results
I know that there are inner workings of the motor + drive system,
that I have not even roughly looked into,
to find out why + how it works like a 10 speed,
Sorry, but I have no time to color + shade in this drawing,
I could only give you this rough sketch,
and let others get the enjoyment of coloring in the details,
may this bring you at least some of the thrills that I have experien-ced,
when I was showed this amazing reasoning,
Please read (Luke 18:29-30)
Someone could easily build a self supplying energy producing power supply,
With a 12v battery,(not needed) two motors, a small and large pulley, and a belt,
You connect the motor with the big pulley up as a power in, driver motor,
And then connect the motor,(s) with the small pulley to be used as an output
When you put power into the drive motor,
You get out a multiple of this power, (on each of the out generators)
Compared to the size difference of the drive motor, (large pulley)
And your output or generator motor. (small pulley)
I will be emailing this to all of our Canadian government
as well as to as many news services that I can
to help get this new technology out in our world fast
and start helping our environment
believe me,,, I know how unbelievable this sounds
I had to repeat the experiment three times
to get a better understanding of how to believe what I was seeing
and then I even thought that I must have dreamed it
and had to repeat the exercise the three times again, about a week later
All I need is, for one person to take this serious
and to actually take the minimal time to build this contraption for me
I feel that this will take off like wildfire
as soon as the world gets a chance to take a look at this
THIS IS A FREE FOR ALL
Perpetual Motion machine
self generating electricity
Just think of it, We could all have our own stand alone, self powering electricity generators, with only the initial cost of building it,(could be made of junkyard parts). These power manufacturers could be producing a seemingly endless supply of free electricity, all for the cost of upkeep. It is easy enough to build, as all you need is a twelve volt battery, two 12 Volt motors,(one DC + one AC) one large pulley, and at least one small pulley, a belt that fits the pulleys, and the hardware to put these parts together.(nuts + bolts + framing to mount on). This could even be done with 120 volt motors, to produce power for yourself, or to use as an income when you sell it back to the power company.
((along with electronics, such as an AC and a DC motor, a battery=(not needed), wires, a bridge rectifier and a voltage regulator, of equal voltage))
((all of the electronics to run this could be easily built on a simple proto-board))
(you might even be able to use any voltage motors - even 120 Volt)
((taking your output from the ac motor leads))
(((as I don’t think the battery is a necessary component)))
It is a very simple mechanism in its workings, as it works by putting power into the motor with the big pulley attached, and you take power out from the motor-(generator) with the small pulley attached. The output motor, or several motors even, the one(s) with the small pulley attached, rotates a lot faster than your input motor,(more speed = increase in power). There is a belt connecting the two,(or more) motors together, that can be as small as you want, depending on if you required size constraints, or as large as you want, to accommodate multiple output generators,,, like in our petrol fuelled power stations, they could be easily modified to run on their own power. I cannot be sure, without having results from tests, but I think that we can gain more power, with every output generator that you add with a small pulley. But there is a warning that I have to give you, of a possible haardous flaw in this free electricity generating system.
CAUTON,,,,,,,,,,
If this system is allowed to run freely,
without having any outside drain of power,
this system will overcharge itself,
and may even explode.
So, please,,,
be careful when experimenting with this mechanism.
Maybe this should be called an Energy Multiplier,
as you always need at least a little power,
to generate the greater amount of power.
I later found a site on the web that said
That if you published something on the web
But did not choose to patent it
You would open it up to be used freely by everybody
So,,, this was the choice I decided on
To put the plans out on the web for all to use freely
Why not let electricity generate itself,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Benefits to humanity:
- To be an effective way to decrease our negative environmental effects on our earth,
- To be able to give free electrical power to all people,
- To greatly reduce our oil dependency,
- To give the Middle East less power,
- To lessen the chance of our need for oil getting us into another war,
- To put a needed boast to our economy,
--- by creating many new items to manufacture and sell
I want to get this out in the market fast,,,
so that there are many of these around,
for everybody to get their hands on,
so that we can all have free running electric cars
As well as having their own 120 volt power supplies
there is a full diagram of this device at
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/ (http://free-energy.yolasite.com/)
how about energy multiplication
where you have two equal voltage motors
one is DC for input
which has a large pulley attached to it
the second motor is AC
on a much smaller pulley
this way your driver motor only turns a few times
while your output motor spins hundreds of times
you get a multiple of power out
compared to the power you put in
you run your output motor, (or multiple motors)
through a full wave bridge rectifier and voltage regulator
to power your DC input motor
and take AC power straight off your AC generator
You could start this system running by giving the big pulley a little turn
We could all be putting power back into the system, by building a rough Perpetual Motion mechanisms out of junk yard parts even. I would imagine that the manufacturing industry would quickly come out with these mechanisms in all sizes, so that people could easily supplement their incomes by selling power to the power companies
PLEASE let us act FAST
Let this be a Gift to all mankind
this energy multiplication system works
it does not work on electronics calculations
but works on large speed differences
between your input and your output motors
this major multiplication of rpms is great enough
to negate any loss due to friction losses
because of the vast circumference difference
between your input motor (extremely slow)
and the output motor (extremely fast)
ok, lets just keep talking about how this wont work
never really even trying to build it, (it is too far fetched to believe)
and let this blessing to mankind be missed
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/ (http://free-energy.yolasite.com/)
I have a great idea
If someone could build this device
on a circuit diagnostic program
they could both prove that it works
and we would have a video of it to put on utube
let’s change the world
One multiplication factor is
the circumference difference between
the pulleys attached to
the DC drive motor (very large)
and the AC generator(s) (smaller the better)
Another multiplication factor
could be the number of AC generators
that you have on this one drive motor + pulley
it could be tens or even hundreds of them on a very large belt
I wish that I had the dexterity
and the experimental equipment
to be able to see these tests work for myself
could I get reports on how your experiments went
but remember the circuit simulator software
http://www.linear.com/designtools/software/ (http://www.linear.com/designtools/software/)
I should be able to use it to do experiments myself
[font=]and even see the figures on the multiplication factors
If, I can ever figure out how to use it, lol
this is so simple
I cannot understand why
this was not discovered long ago
I think that we are going to see some major changes
I have discovered some other amazing things
including some awesome joystick advances at
http://ultimatejoysticks.yolasite.com/ (http://ultimatejoysticks.yolasite.com/)
and
a virtual reality games room at
http://ultimatevideogamecontrols.yolasite.com/ (http://ultimatevideogamecontrols.yolasite.com/)
Later,
. . . . joe[/font]
Quote from: one_christian_warrior on April 17, 2012, 12:13:42 AM
GEM
God s Electricity Machine
self generating electricity machine
this is relatively easy to build
and should be very cheap
built out of junkyard parts even
to reproduce in any scale, any voltage,
(I happen to be disabled + unable to build this)
This should be very cheap to build
I know that it seems too simple to work
but I proved that it works with my electric wheelchair experiment
if you put DC power into a large wheel turning very slowly
and then take AC power out of the small wheel(s)
that spin hundreds of times faster
Help me, help others, help themselves
we could start a new + improved industrial age
one that not only cause little mess of pollution
like in the original industrial age brought with it
This one could actually help our environment
by producing costless to run air and water filters
we could possibly have every back yard mechanic
coming out with very specialized adoptions
for this free energy box, cube, machine
And how, you might add, did I come up with this,
I did not, it was God,(Holy Spirit) Who showed this to me,
When I ask Him if He could show me how I might help
The Saints survive the soon coming great tribulation
how to get electricity to generate itself.
I have stumbled upon the
PERPETUAL MOTION machine
Yes,,,,, and even better than perpetual,,,,
,,, this machine actually makes its own power,
as in - this system uses passing time to gain electrical energy,
yessss,,, we can let electricity generate itself,,,,
No more dependency on OIL, and the middle east oil supplies,,,
and the world says,
Now hold on just a moment,,,
I know that this is not a true example of perpetual motion,,,
Because of bearings alone,
or should I say, the fact that they will wear out eventually,
That is why I added the word "machine" afterwards
This is a man made machine,
Which only mimics perpetual motion,
As it continues to run, seemingly forever,
Producing electricity as a side effect, (bonus !!!)
This is a gift from God,,,
As He has shared this with me
To share with the world,
I do not know why my Lord has chosen to share this with me, at this time,
Maybe it is because my Father knows that time is short,
and He wants to show all mankind,
just one more way that He is Love,,,
God has shown me,
a way of gaining free energy,
seemingly from nothing,
This came to me when I was over visiting at the park,
I was thinking about how electricity worked,
and how my electric chair had the ability to charge itself,
on most any type of downhill run,
(as it uses an electrical breaking system)
I don't know if you know anything about me or not,
but learning new things is one of my greatest pleasures,,, (especially about God)
and,,,,
When investigating how things work,,,
I always have to push the limits,,, lol
not only learning how things works,
but then tinker with trying to improve them,,,,, lol
I went with the idea of a ten speed bicycle, (something that I knew about)
Where I wanted to go uphill in tenth gear, (least rotations of the pedals)=motor
and then downhill in first gear, (most rotations of pedals)=motor
so, I would go uphill at full speed,
and then downhill at slow speed
So,,, now I had something to experiment with,
now I had measurable tests to do,
(I had to set my chair to max torq=1st gear and max speed=10th gear)
I started off with a low battery, (so that I did not have the power to drive all the way up)
driving up a long steep hill at the park in the full speed position, (tenth gear)
(until my chair would not go any further, as my battery was dead) it was a long run
and then going back down the hill in slow speed, (first gear) = higher multiple factor
(not super slow, as I had time limits = only 4-6 hours of sunlight left)
Then I immediately turned around, and went back up at full speed,
And guess what happened,,,,
I could travel twenty feet higher up the hill,
so, I had a net gain of electricity,,, (a blessing)
Logic and common sense says,
that you will have energy losses,
do to heat from friction if nothing else,
causing you to not be able to make it as far up the hill,
the second time you drive up it,
Well, I first thought that this might just be a strange happening,
so I did it again and again, doing it three times,
each time gaining twenty more feet, up a steep hill, (60 feet total)
Not only did I do it three times that day,
but I later thought that this went against logic, (I must have dreamed it)
and I did the whole experiment over,
with the same electricity gaining results
I know that there are inner workings of the motor + drive system,
that I have not even roughly looked into,
to find out why + how it works like a 10 speed,
Sorry, but I have no time to color + shade in this drawing,
I could only give you this rough sketch,
and let others get the enjoyment of coloring in the details,
may this bring you at least some of the thrills that I have experien-ced,
when I was showed this amazing reasoning,
Please read (Luke 18:29-30)
Someone could easily build a self supplying energy producing power supply,
With a 12v battery,(not needed) two motors, a small and large pulley, and a belt,
You connect the motor with the big pulley up as a power in, driver motor,
And then connect the motor,(s) with the small pulley to be used as an output
When you put power into the drive motor,
You get out a multiple of this power, (on each of the out generators)
Compared to the size difference of the drive motor, (large pulley)
And your output or generator motor. (small pulley)
I will be emailing this to all of our Canadian government
as well as to as many news services that I can
to help get this new technology out in our world fast
and start helping our environment
believe me,,, I know how unbelievable this sounds
I had to repeat the experiment three times
to get a better understanding of how to believe what I was seeing
and then I even thought that I must have dreamed it
and had to repeat the exercise the three times again, about a week later
All I need is, for one person to take this serious
and to actually take the minimal time to build this contraption for me
I feel that this will take off like wildfire
as soon as the world gets a chance to take a look at this
THIS IS A FREE FOR ALL
Perpetual Motion machine
self generating electricity
Just think of it, We could all have our own stand alone, self powering electricity generators, with only the initial cost of building it,(could be made of junkyard parts). These power manufacturers could be producing a seemingly endless supply of free electricity, all for the cost of upkeep. It is easy enough to build, as all you need is a twelve volt battery, two 12 Volt motors,(one DC + one AC) one large pulley, and at least one small pulley, a belt that fits the pulleys, and the hardware to put these parts together.(nuts + bolts + framing to mount on). This could even be done with 120 volt motors, to produce power for yourself, or to use as an income when you sell it back to the power company.
((along with electronics, such as an AC and a DC motor, a battery=(not needed), wires, a bridge rectifier and a voltage regulator, of equal voltage))
((all of the electronics to run this could be easily built on a simple proto-board))
(you might even be able to use any voltage motors - even 120 Volt)
((taking your output from the ac motor leads))
(((as I donââ,¬â,,¢t think the battery is a necessary component)))
It is a very simple mechanism in its workings, as it works by putting power into the motor with the big pulley attached, and you take power out from the motor-(generator) with the small pulley attached. The output motor, or several motors even, the one(s) with the small pulley attached, rotates a lot faster than your input motor,(more speed = increase in power). There is a belt connecting the two,(or more) motors together, that can be as small as you want, depending on if you required size constraints, or as large as you want, to accommodate multiple output generators,,, like in our petrol fuelled power stations, they could be easily modified to run on their own power. I cannot be sure, without having results from tests, but I think that we can gain more power, with every output generator that you add with a small pulley. But there is a warning that I have to give you, of a possible haardous flaw in this free electricity generating system.
CAUTON,,,,,,,,,,
If this system is allowed to run freely,
without having any outside drain of power,
this system will overcharge itself,
and may even explode.
So, please,,,
be careful when experimenting with this mechanism.
Maybe this should be called an Energy Multiplier,
as you always need at least a little power,
to generate the greater amount of power.
I later found a site on the web that said
That if you published something on the web
But did not choose to patent it
You would open it up to be used freely by everybody
So,,, this was the choice I decided on
To put the plans out on the web for all to use freely
Why not let electricity generate itself,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Benefits to humanity:
- To be an effective way to decrease our negative environmental effects on our earth,
- To be able to give free electrical power to all people,
- To greatly reduce our oil dependency,
- To give the Middle East less power,
- To lessen the chance of our need for oil getting us into another war,
- To put a needed boast to our economy,
--- by creating many new items to manufacture and sell
I want to get this out in the market fast,,,
so that there are many of these around,
for everybody to get their hands on,
so that we can all have free running electric cars
As well as having their own 120 volt power supplies
there is a full diagram of this device at
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/ (http://free-energy.yolasite.com/)
how about energy multiplication
where you have two equal voltage motors
one is DC for input
which has a large pulley attached to it
the second motor is AC
on a much smaller pulley
this way your driver motor only turns a few times
while your output motor spins hundreds of times
you get a multiple of power out
compared to the power you put in
you run your output motor, (or multiple motors)
through a full wave bridge rectifier and voltage regulator
to power your DC input motor
and take AC power straight off your AC generator
You could start this system running by giving the big pulley a little turn
We could be putting power back into the system, by building a rough Perpetual Motion mechanisms out of junk yard parts even. I would imagine that the manufacturing industry would quickly come out with these mechanisms in all sizes, so that people could easily supplement their incomes by selling power to the power companies
PLEASE let us act FAST
Let this be a Gift to all mankind
this energy multiplication system works
it does not work on electronics calculations
but works on large speed differences
between your input and your output motors
this major multiplication of rpms is great enough
to negate any loss due to friction losses
because of the vast circumference difference
between your input motor (extremely slow)
and the output motor (extremely fast)
ok, lets just keep talking about how this wont work
never really even trying to build it, (it is too far fetched to believe)
and let this blessing to mankind be missed
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/ (http://free-energy.yolasite.com/)
I have a great idea
If someone could build this device
on a circuit diagnostic program
http://www.linear.com/designtools/software/ (http://www.linear.com/designtools/software/)
they could both prove that it works
and we would have a video of it to put on utube
lets change the world
you had me up until "God's Energy Machine"... ::)
Quote from: bradagilah on April 16, 2012, 02:22:34 AM
Thanks.
The thread is very active on the ATS forums:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread830762/pg1 (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread830762/pg1)
Check the thread out, to read up on what everyone else has said, and what I have replied. Also, I will be checking back and fourth between the two forums.
-Pierre
Latest post on ATS...
"I made a mistake in the calculations... None of this works..."
Ron
Quote from: i_ron on April 28, 2012, 09:10:22 PM
Latest post on ATS...
"I made a mistake in the calculations... None of this works..."
Ron
LOL
Cheers
He wasted our time. Theories and mathematics are absolutely critical to experimentation but a working device that can close the loop must be built. Then visual documentation such as a video and/or schematics must be provided as proof for replication. This kind of nonsense is ridiculous!
Quote from: Xaverius on May 01, 2012, 11:02:25 PM
He wasted our time. Theories and mathematics are absolutely critical to experimentation but a working device that can close the loop must be built. Then visual documentation such as a video and/or schematics must be provided as proof for replication. This kind of nonsense is ridiculous!
Well yes and no. He spoke as if there was a working model, that he would give workshops in three major cities, that there was a team effort behind him, and he was going to do a follow on video. So we have two options, he was a consummate liar or the MIBS got to him.
Ron
He was still online on energeticforum.com when he left the same announcement. I PM'd him asking him about a number of possible scenario's as to why the sudden exit statement which seemed to contradict what he said earlier about having a working model. I got no reply and that was weeks ago. From my observations in the last 20 years it seems motor related devices that promise real usable extra energy often meet sudden and suspicious endings. I'm going to go with the "MIBS got'em" ;)
I have to say that I found his retraction uncharacteristically short compared to the verbosity he displayed in his video. It may be due to embarrassment, but I have to go with the MIB's got to him.
No actually i pointed out the error in his maths. It all hinged on an off the shelf generator which had an output of 1291 watts for each horsepower of input. Clearly this item alone would negate the need for any other device so i asked for the make and model. Its interesting that all the other people discussing it hadnt noticed his basic error in calculations even though he had quite clearly laid it out for them to read. since all his system was based on iso 9000.1 suppliers and their online specs it is possible that his lack of understanding allowed him to get over excited by a simple typo on their web site but the manner he presented the video in seemed to me to be totally inept and so i would go with this is a total fraud rather than the mistake of an over eager kid. In case you also cant see the problem 1 horse power is 746 watts so 1291 out from this is pure fantasy with off the shelf products. Garry
I won't argue with you math. I suppose I was fixated on his claim to have functioning units.
I think that I may have discovered something similar to your discovery
I went with the concept of a typical 10 speed bicycle
Where I thought if a person was driving uphill in tenth gear
Which takes greater torque, but less rotations of the motor
Which I had hoped means less overall power being used
Then driving down the hill in first gear = massive increase in # of rotations
I figured that you could gain power in the process
So I did an experiment with the tools that I had with me, (an electric wheelchair)
[font=]I started off with a low battery, (so that I did not have the power to make it all the way)[/font]
[font=]driving up a steep hill at the park in the full speed position, (tenth gear)[/font]
[font=](until my chair would not go any further, as my battery was dead)[/font]
[font=]and then going back down the hill in slow speed, (first gear)[/font]
[font=](not super slow, as I had time limits = only 4-6 hours of sunlight left)[/font]
[font=]Then I immediately turned around and went back up at full speed,[/font]
[font=]And guess what happened,,,, [/font]
[font=]I could travel twenty feet higher up the hill,[/font]
[font=]so, I had a net gain of electricity,,, (a blessing from God)[/font]
[font=]Well, I first thought that this might just be a strange happening,[/font]
[font=]so I did it again and again, doing it three times,[/font]
[font=]each time gaining twenty more feet, up a fairly steep hill, =(60 feet total)[/font]
[font=]Not only did I do it three times that day,[/font]
[font=]but I later thought that this went against logic, (must have dreamed it)[/font]
[font=]and I did the whole experiment over,[/font]
[font=]with the same electricity gaining results[/font]
An account of the results of my experiment is at this website
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/ (http://free-energy.yolasite.com/)
Quote from: bradagilah on April 15, 2012, 04:53:16 PM
http://youtu.be/0R9NGPpcGqs (http://youtu.be/0R9NGPpcGqs)
Hi,
I am proud to go public, and share the findings of my group. This is a simple example of over-unity ready for America now.
Thanks,
Pierre
Edit:
The video link is now a go. Enjoy. The video is crammed with the facts you need to know.