http://pesn.com/2014/07/03/9602514_New-3rd-party-test-results_on_solar-hydrogen-trends_show-over-1000x-overunity/ (http://pesn.com/2014/07/03/9602514_New-3rd-party-test-results_on_solar-hydrogen-trends_show-over-1000x-overunity/)
It's a hydrogen version of Mylow (Jose Concepcion). The audio interview Sterling Allan conducted with the help of Mike Waters is chock full of silly and ridiculous statements by SHT president Jack Aganyan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYliDUI8bY4
Here is his abbreviated bio from the SHT web site.
"Jack Aganyan is a founder and president at Solar Hydrogen Trends. He led the development of the technology and has created the vision for the company. Jack has funded and sold number of projects and has founded several companies."
When listening to the idiotic pseudoscience he spouts, keep in mind that his bio says that he led the technology development.
Yes,
Jack is not the scientist and does not speak like one ,he assembled a team
and this Man would be the man to interview.
Konstantin Balakiryan
Quote from Konstantin
I'm an old, conservative and old fashion man.
So I can't break the tradition of the scientific community which I belong to for more than
40 years .
I ask all participants to wait a little more for theoretical justification for anomalous
processes that occur in hydrogen reactor "Symphony 7A".
All the data that we have published is within statistical error of 2-3%.
As you know every scientist cherishes its scientific reputation and his life .
Result of 1Lit. of water = 1 kg of hydrogen is a Damoklov
sword for our reputation (sharp sword hovering over our heads), our lives and
the lives of people we love. We are not stupid to risk the most valuable things
we have.
To understand how serious this is, please remember the fate of Stanley Meyer,
Andrea Puharich and Francisco Pacheco, as well as a dozen other mysterious
deaths of researchers working on the hydrogen problem.
For all those who we throw the challenge, their own profits are more important than
happiness that will bring humanity Great Hydrogen Revolution .
Sincerely
Konstantin
Balakiryan
PhD,
Professor
More from Professor Balakiryan
Dear Colleagues,
I am closely following all the discussions on multiple forums.
I really like your judgments and their proximity to understanding
the processes that occur in reality in the hydrogen reactor "Symphony
7A".
Unfortunately, according to the existing ethics in the
scientific community, the authors are not encouraged to discuss about any research
results with the media before they are published in scientific journals.
However, in order for you to understand what a great discovery
GOD gave to us all please try to find answers
in the following questions:
1. If the working substance in the reactor is water, how
come the output is almost only hydrogen ?
2. After splitting water where do molecules of oxygen
disappear?
3. What role in stunning efficiency of "Symphony
7A" plays a collective excitation of nucleons in the nuclei of atoms of oxygen?
4. Is it possible at a rate of 0.5 kW energy hour and at
operating temperature 60 degrees centigrade, to have a nuclear fission and fusion?
5 . To produce 1kg of hydrogen it is necessary to split 9
liters of water, then how or in what way in this hydrogen reactor
"Symphony 7A", it takes only 1 liter?
Sincerely,
Konstantin Balakiryan
PhD, Professor
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from this link
http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/03/15/solar-hydrogen-trends-claims-breakthrough-hydrogen-production-system-cop-400-claimed/
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Mark
as you are aware I spoke with Jack in March on the behalf of a peer review Team I also spoke with
Shen Chen the fellow that ran the test for Jack.
at that time Jack was in negotiations with Stamford Tech for some testing and Peer review.
the Only comment I will make here is The gauge on the DUT [Jack's device] which measured input power, were used by Chen to measure input during that test,
that struck me as Odd and I did not go further with the "Ruff" questions...
however it would be nice to see a full test report with all equipment used in the test and the calibration log on that equipment.
** My comments above on the testing were on a prior test by Mr.Chen,
thx
ChetKremens@gmail.com
Quote from: ramset on July 05, 2014, 09:18:20 AM
Yes,
Jack is not the scientist and does not speak like one ,he assembled a team
and this Man would be the man to interview.
Konstantin Balakiryan
Quote from Konstantin
I'm an old, conservative and old fashion man.
So I can't break the tradition of the scientific community which I belong to for more than
40 years .
I ask all participants to wait a little more for theoretical justification for anomalous
processes that occur in hydrogen reactor "Symphony 7A".
All the data that we have published is within statistical error of 2-3%.
As you know every scientist cherishes its scientific reputation and his life .
Result of 1Lit. of water = 1 kg of hydrogen is a Damoklov
sword for our reputation (sharp sword hovering over our heads), our lives and
the lives of people we love. We are not stupid to risk the most valuable things
we have.
To understand how serious this is, please remember the fate of Stanley Meyer,
Andrea Puharich and Francisco Pacheco, as well as a dozen other mysterious
deaths of researchers working on the hydrogen problem.
For all those who we throw the challenge, their own profits are more important than
happiness that will bring humanity Great Hydrogen Revolution .
Sincerely
Konstantin
Balakiryan
PhD,
Professor
More from Professor Balakiryan
Dear Colleagues,
I am closely following all the discussions on multiple forums.
I really like your judgments and their proximity to understanding
the processes that occur in reality in the hydrogen reactor "Symphony
7A".
Unfortunately, according to the existing ethics in the
scientific community, the authors are not encouraged to discuss about any research
results with the media before they are published in scientific journals.
However, in order for you to understand what a great discovery
GOD gave to us all please try to find answers
in the following questions:
1. If the working substance in the reactor is water, how
come the output is almost only hydrogen ?
2. After splitting water where do molecules of oxygen
disappear?
3. What role in stunning efficiency of "Symphony
7A" plays a collective excitation of nucleons in the nuclei of atoms of oxygen?
4. Is it possible at a rate of 0.5 kW energy hour and at
operating temperature 60 degrees centigrade, to have a nuclear fission and fusion?
5 . To produce 1kg of hydrogen it is necessary to split 9
liters of water, then how or in what way in this hydrogen reactor
"Symphony 7A", it takes only 1 liter?
Sincerely,
Konstantin Balakiryan
PhD, Professor
------------------------------------------
from this link
http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/03/15/solar-hydrogen-trends-claims-breakthrough-hydrogen-production-system-cop-400-claimed/
------------------
Mark
as you are aware I spoke with Jack in March on the behalf of a peer review Team I also spoke with
Shen Chen the fellow that ran the test for Jack.
at that time Jack was in negotiations with Stamford Tech for some testing and Peer review.
the Only comment I will make here is The gauge on the DUT [Jack's device] which measured input power, were used by Chen to measure input during that test,
that struck me as Odd and I did not go further with the "Ruff" questions...
however it would be nice to see a full test report with all equipment used in the test and the calibration log on that equipment.
thx
ChetKremens@gmail.com
Chet: On their website it states plainly that Jack Aganyan "led the technology". The claims are pure BS. People who have tried to get real SME's in to have a look have been rebuffed.
SHT is a living art version of a Nigerian 419 letter.
Well
In this case I feel that " Led" translates into "Payed for and managed"
15 years worth and counting ...
I would like to see the latest report , You seem to have a very strong opinion about this ...
have you seen the Data from the test Lab ?
Thx
Chet
Quote from: ramset on July 05, 2014, 01:56:38 PM
Well
In this case I feel that " Led" translates into "Payed for and managed"
15 years worth and counting ...
I would like to see the latest report , You seem to have a very strong opinion about this ...
have you seen the Data from the test Lab ?
Thx
Chet
I have seen their published data and the test protocol for what they are claiming is nearly as absurd as their claims. 1 kilo of water: 2/18 nuclear particles hydrogen protons, 2 hydrogen electrons, 8/18 oxygen neutrons, 8/18 oxygen protons, 8 oxygen electrons. These lying Bozos are trying to foist the beyond Absurditydome claim that not only do they fission the oxygen, but they also convert the 8 oxygen neutrons into 8 hydrogen protons and 8 hydrogen electrons all without emitting any lethal radiation. The claims are so stupid as to be completely insulting to anyone who can count.
As I recall, the "test lab" used a standard testing protocol, which I looked up and read carefully. I don't think the protocol as described is applicable to the system tested!
I don't remember the specifics at the moment-- after all it was a few weeks ago.
This is a much more recent test than the one I spoke with Chen about,it would be good to see the report,I believe the last one was more about the "quality and Purity" of the Gas as well as the quantity for input power .
Mark
Konstantin Balakiryan absolutely goes out of his way to Highlight the absurdities of his claims to his Peers.
He gets that part......
His entire lifes work and reputation is on the line here,as well as this testing Labs reputation.
First time you test a claim perhaps you can be caught off guard ,next time you have some history with the claim...
Tell me Mark E ...would you attach some liability to the Lab in this case for helping to perpetrate an obvious knee slapping, comedy act fraud??[your opinion ,not mine]
Nah, too much in this Mix to scream Nigeria Scam .............
Chet K.
Post modified to correct posting in the wrong topic.
Bill
PS Thanks Chet
Bill
That's a different thread we're fighting in [ Aurora Tec] this one is just getting started...
No scooters here.
thx
Chet
Quote from: ramset on July 05, 2014, 10:24:16 PM
Bill
That's a different thread we're fighting in [ Aurora Tec] this one is just getting started...
No scooters here.
thx
Chet
Geeze Chet, I am sorry. I guess I get confused easily these days. Never mind.
Thanks,
Bill
Quote from: ramset on July 05, 2014, 04:55:24 PM
This is a much more recent test than the one I spoke with Chen about,it would be good to see the report,I believe the last one was more about the "quality and Purity" of the Gas as well as the quantity for input power .
Mark
Konstantin Balakiryan absolutely goes out of his way to Highlight the absurdities of his claims to his Peers.
He gets that part......
His entire lifes work and reputation is on the line here,as well as this testing Labs reputation.
First time you test a claim perhaps you can be caught off guard ,next time you have some history with the claim...
Tell me Mark E ...would you attach some liability to the Lab in this case for helping to perpetrate an obvious knee slapping, comedy act fraud??[your opinion ,not mine]
Nah, too much in this Mix to scream Nigeria Scam .............
Chet K.
If they endorsed SHT's total BS claims, then yes they put their name and authority on the line. They have not done that.
Now_ Your_ being Odd....
wasn't that Chen with the Smiley Thumbs up face in the Interview??
This has been my point since the first time I heard about this Tec ,I have NEVER seen an independent Lab go out on a limb like this ,honestly I am not sure their underwriter would be Happy ,Nor if they would even be "covered" if this goes to Fraud and the deepest Pocket "hammer time" Event that a truly wonderful rainmaker Lawyer can manifest for all the guilty and their associates.
Nah, I don't care what they have in their disclaimer,this test is "out there" for a lab like this.
as well as the interviews.....
Konstantin Balakiryan was recently quoted in the Blog I posted "if I say but a few more words all will be understood [about the tec
Jack always tells me I talk too much."
In my opinion this is Big This is real and the world will never be the same.....
forget what you thought was possible
"all things are Possible" and its not magic !!
just one mans opinion........
Thx
Chetkremens@gmail.com
Quote from: ramset on July 06, 2014, 06:24:52 AM
Now_ Your_ being Odd....
wasn't that Chen with the Smiley Thumbs up face in the Interview??
This has been my point since the first time I heard about this Tec ,I have NEVER seen an independent Lab go out on a limb like this ,honestly I am not sure their underwriter would be Happy ,Nor if they would even be "covered" if this goes to Fraud and the deepest Pocket "hammer time" Event that a truly wonderful rainmaker Lawyer can manifest for all the guilty and their associates.
Nah, I don't care what they have in their disclaimer,this test is "out there" for a lab like this.
as well as the interviews.....
Konstantin Balakiryan was recently quoted in the Blog I posted "if I say but a few more words all will be understood [about the tec
Jack always tells me I talk too much."
In my opinion this is Big This is real and the world will never be the same.....
forget what you thought was possible
"all things are Possible" and its not magic !!
just one mans opinion........
Thx
Chetkremens@gmail.com
Chet, wake up and smell the nuclear particles:
10 protons, 8 neutrons, and 10 electrons. Find the way to get from there to the 18 protons and 18 electrons. These clowns are: "Worse than wrong."
Mark
Your observations are spot on [profoundly obvious actually]
and these folks don'y miss an opportunity to tell you
sorta "in your face"
thx
Chet
Quote from: ramset on July 06, 2014, 07:07:47 AM
Mark
Your observations are spot on [profoundly obvious actually]
and these folks don'y miss an opportunity to tell you
sorta "in your face"
thx
Chet
Chet, some frauds operate very much in your face. Remember "mylow"? Dennis Lee? Steorn? Mike Brady? James Schwartz? Lutec? Joe Newman The list of people who have made miraculous free energy claims knowing full well that those claims are completely false is a very long one.
Now list the Certified test Labs that were involved....
Thx
Chet
http://hydrogenhq.com (http://hydrogenhq.com)
As of 9/19/2014, Symphony 7a is only a prototype. It is the most powerful of a series of prototypes the company has produced. The sample machine can only run for less than 3 hours at a time in its current state. When asked about the limiting factor, Mr. Jack Aganyan, president of Solar Hydrogen Trends, alluded to a metal alloy, the composition of which was not disclosed. The claimed operating cost is $1.68 per hour. The test unit is 32″ x 14″ x 20″. Once the generator is capable of running full time, it would produce enough hydrogen to feed fuel cells to power a large grocery store. At this point, SHT is looking for funding to complete development and begin production, estimated at $120 million. The company plans to lease the units and provide centralized monitoring and control. While the technology is scalable to other output amounts, the approximate cost to build units similar to the test unit is $200,000. Given funding, they plan to begin production within 18 months at the rate of 400 units per month.[/size][/color]
Sources: bit.ly/1wG1bDU (http://bit.ly/1wG1bDU%20), Solar Hydrogen Trends (http://www.solarhydrogentrends.com/)[/color], phone interview with Jack Aganyan 9/19/2014.[/size][/color]
Scary.they seem very forceful
Quote from: lancaIV on September 23, 2014, 04:39:38 PM
http://hydrogenhq.com (http://hydrogenhq.com)
As of 9/19/2014, Symphony 7a is only a prototype. It is the most powerful of a series of prototypes the company has produced. The sample machine can only run for less than 3 hours at a time in its current state. When asked about the limiting factor, Mr. Jack Aganyan, president of Solar Hydrogen Trends, alluded to a metal alloy, the composition of which was not disclosed. The claimed operating cost is $1.68 per hour. The test unit is 32″ x 14″ x 20″. Once the generator is capable of running full time, it would produce enough hydrogen to feed fuel cells to power a large grocery store. At this point, SHT is looking for funding to complete development and begin production, estimated at $120 million. The company plans to lease the units and provide centralized monitoring and control. While the technology is scalable to other output amounts, the approximate cost to build units similar to the test unit is $200,000. Given funding, they plan to begin production within 18 months at the rate of 400 units per month.[/size][/color]
Sources: bit.ly/1wG1bDU (http://bit.ly/1wG1bDU%20), Solar Hydrogen Trends (http://www.solarhydrogentrends.com/)[/color], phone interview with Jack Aganyan 9/19/2014.[/size][/color]
It runs until the metal is oxidized. These guys have dressed up high school chemistry..
Quote from: MarkE on September 23, 2014, 07:40:38 PM
It runs until the metal is oxidized. These guys have dressed up high school chemistry..
Mark E in reference to some of your comments in this particular thread. I just love it when you mumble. To the point. Sometime tell me what your really think.
In regards to SHT it seems the answer you have given explains it, AND does not violate any laws. Other than fraud.
I really do not get the test lab results. It does not add up. If any of you owned a lab and got this reported result, would you not be writing a paper to present to say "I have put my entire companies reputation on the line, and not only my job, this is the real deal!"
This is exactly what happened here. So what I am trying to figure out is how you back out of this.
Quote from: Rigel4 on September 23, 2014, 07:58:56 PM
Mark E in reference to some of your comments in this particular thread. I just love it when you mumble. To the point. Sometime tell me what your really think.
In regards to SHT it seems the answer you have given explains it, AND does not violate any laws. Other than fraud.
I really do not get the test lab results. It does not add up. If any of you owned a lab and got this reported result, would you not be writing a paper to present to say "I have put my entire companies reputation on the line, and not only my job, this is the real deal!"
This is exactly what happened here. So what I am trying to figure out is how you back out of this.
There is nothing in the test reports that contradicts what I have stated. This is Alternative Energy Corp. reduxe.
The SHT company wrote that they are using several water-to-hydrogen splitting technics in their syphony,
the metal alloy,which becomes during this process reduced,has in quantity to get renewed.
They also estimate the U.S.Administration to make a monetary political change :
from petro-Dollars to hydrogen-Dollars
Less Greenhouse-tax ?
Sincerely
OCWL
p.s.: how would the Pierre Chambrin "transmutation chamber" efficiency becomes if the chamber surface would be treated by chem-alloy
The first leaks of rossi report are out lanca.may lend credibility here with claimed transmute