hello, my name is Solomon- and i fundamentally believe I HAVE FOUND THE ROAD TO SAFE CLEAN NUCLEAR FUSION- I have performed an experiment never done before in science- I used a Tesla coil for its use in high voltage high frequency and apply its discharge plasma not upon the dielectric of free air- but to the dielectric of water itself- specifically i used ultrapure reagent grade water from manufactuer NERL-this is to establish the high degree of insulation needed for plasma (you cannot have contaminants for conductivity)- I doped my water with heavy water from the manufacturer UNITED NUCLEAR- I built my 1 million volt tesla coil entire tunable- every aspect of it- as it must be done to TUNE THE OUTPUT DISCHARGE OF THE TESLA COIL to the water itself- once the arc is stable- the voltage may be increased- I have written in my pdf file in my website of noblefuse.com that a prerequisite of 750 kv is needed as an electric field gradient about the charged particles used in fusion( in this case the hydrogen bound in the water molecule) because of voltage drops as expected as in all electrical systems upon the load(load here is the water)- a much higher voltage is needed in order to distribute the voltage gradient upon entire arc plasma length between electrodes in water- THUS- THE HIGH THE VOLTAGE- THE BETTER- within my website you will find a link to youtube showing my primitive experiment- BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT THIS- THIS IS THE FIRST TIME EVER DONE BEFORE - I propose nuclear fusion of water/heavy water- my little experiment IS THE ROAD TO NUCLEAR FUSION- we must universally connect the dots- put two and two together- and conclude this- MY EXPERIMENT MUST BE REPEATED ON A LARGER SCALE- my system is a direct replacement of nuclear power plants particularly of the pressurized water reactor which uses heavy water already - a vessel already built for gamma radiation and other high energy flux which will emit with the plasma arc-
I come to the table with the lightning bolt_ I HAVE FOUND THE TRUE PURPOSE OF THE TESLA COIL- the answer was always in the lightning bolt- understanding of gamma bursts from lightning discharges have only been recently vindictated from satelitee in late 90s---
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Lopez, L I ( ) , Astronomy Department and Space Sciences Laboratory, University of California, Berkeley, CA 94720 United States
The observation of brief (<1 ms) bursts of intense ?-rays, the so-called Terrestrial Gamma-ray Flashes (TGFs), by the BATSE ?-ray experiment was one of the most unexpected discoveries by the Compton Gamma-Ray Observatory. Extensive modeling efforts following this observation interpreted the observations in the context of the runaway acceleration of energetic (>1 MeV) electrons by the intense quasi-static fields that temporarily exist at high altitudes above thunderclouds following positive cloud-to-ground lightning discharges. Association of individual TGFs, and positive cloud to ground (CG) lightning strikes have been demonstrated by means of the measurement of associated radio atmospherics, with at least some of the correlated sferics showing properties similar to those that cause sprites. However, simultaneous VLF data was only available for a few of the BATSE/CGRO events, so that a comprehensive study of this association was not feasible. New evidence from the RHESSI spacecraft now shows that TGFs occur much more commonly and that the photon energies typically extend to ~20 MeV. With the much larger number of TGFs now available from RHESSI, we undertake here a comprehensive study of the association between TGFs and sferics using VLF data collected at Palmer Station, Antarctica and other sites ( e.g., in Alaska and the continental United States). Results indicate that by far the majority of observed TGFs are associated with an ELF/VLF radio atmospheric observed at Palmer Station, within $?1.5$ ms of the expected time (when the sferic and the TGF propagation times are accounted for) and directionally determined to be arriving from an azimuth that is within
let me try to give another analogy to make the point. think about striking a match, if all conditions are proper , one knows that to strike a match, you must go a minimum speed- you cannot strike the match too slowly- this is understood as more speed is more friction and thus more activation energy nessesary to create combustion of the match material. the same applies to this fusion system, first, imagine my system as inside a pressurized water reactor used in fission plants- the moderator is already heavy water- we shall use it as the fuel. i have said the plasma arc looks exactly like our friend the electric lightning bolt- but i talk about in my pdf file- that the so called lightning bolt must be understood in regards to high voltage and frequency- just like the minimum speed needed for the match- so it is with the combination on high voltage and frequency to not only resonate with the dielectric molecule of heavy water- but more so- to create a minimum velocity upon charged particles in the fuel water. this velocity is also exhibiting itself as a magnetic field-think of the cathode ray scope- in a snap shot instant in time for analysis, look at when the maximun energy is being applied on a per strike basis of the input cycle- or shall we say the highest amplitude of the ac signal. if for example- an input energy of one megawattt was injected into the strike of the arc- a magnetic pinch shall be directed upon the charged particles in transit of the discharge- in a thermodynamic extraction process such as this - we need at least 5 times more energy out of the system to recoup our initial energy input- and a surplus for commercial energy supply- thus- via fusion of hydrogen to helium- with each strike- a minimum voltage and frequency SHALL give the minimum activation energy required for magnetic pinching and fusion of the isotopes of hydrogen. to increase the q of the reaction in this system- a magnetic toroid may be used around the plasma arc for increased efficiency= such as used in tokamak devices. i hope this analogy helps those who question this system- THANK YOU--WWW.NOBLEFUSE.COM
Solomon, Sam, (which is it?)
I wish you all the best, and thanks for the pdf. Interesting reading and concepts.
However, one word of advice: If you're going to make bold statements such as in the topic of this thread, you should be prepared beforehand to back it up with some evidence.
Showing arcing in a water vessel and claiming there is nuclear fusion occurring is easy to say. Where are the measurements showing input vs. output energy?
Perhaps I have missed something?
Cheers,
Darren
Sam.
You have a private message.
Thank you for your kind words-
1. I could give you measurements- but who will believe it--your interests should spark from the simple fact this has not been done before-110 years of the tesla coil and it has now found its proper home- it was always meant to be- the units of magnetic flux density are in Tesla- the method of fusion I propose is to magnetically pinch the hydrogen isotopes by way of high voltage and high frequency which will induce a magnetic property upon the charged particles in transit of the plasma- there is more to skin effect than is understood-
2. You may call me solomon or sam. both are fine
3. Thank you for wishing me the best in my pursuits- MY PURSUITS ARE OVER- I am completely broke financially as i never took a dime for any of my lifes work- nor do i ever care to as i have no business interests whatsoever--I AM A SCIENTIST AT HEART WITH LOVE OF HUMANITY IN MY SIGHTS--I started this- society must finish it- I cannot do anymore alone- i have discovered a new way of a theory to tackle fusion- and i have hand built this experiment to prove my point TO SAFELY resonate plasma within water- PLEASE TRY TO INVESTIGATE- IT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE-
I PRAY MY WORDS ARE VINDICATED SOON BY WAY OF OBSERVATION AND TESTING- I am tired of mans wars over energy-of looking in the frozen arctic for black gold- finish this and let us end the energy crisis once and for all
happy holidays to everyone
@SolomonSam!
Men have always had wars. Go back to the time before oil was even discovered. However I do wish you success. If you do come up with the goods for real and submit it to some faceless concern such as Westinghouse, don't think your invention would see the light of day. However, why not scale this down so that every home could have have one?
Regards
AM
Interesting work "noblefuse"
IronHead
it will all make sense soon. ;)
So, when the "Atomic Energy Comission" guys come to have a chat and get your "agreement" on "how things are going to go", and give you the "we have a responsibility as scientists" speach, followed by comments on Terrorism, Freedom, and Security - explain that you made a mistake and that you do not have overunity, desktop fusion, or anything like that - you only thought you did.
Explain that you are just heating water. ;)
Overunity must be verifiable.Thats not to say that you have attained this feat.Have you approached a University to give your claims some academic clout?......I hope your breakthrough bears fruits and wish you well Sam
You claim to have built a Tesla coil with an output frequency of 1.42 GHz @ 256 million Volts!!
Mmmmm....anyone else see anything wrong with this?
noblefuse, I don?t think you realize what you have actually done or how your output was achieved. I am glad you have achieved what you have and I hope you can figure a way to properly utilize what you achieved. Over unity was not achieved, it may seem like it because you got more energy out then you personally put in but you cant see the energy received that made up the difference. You have built a very powerful frequency receiver that was able to compress the frequency that can be utilized as a power source. Now you just need to find the most efficient way to utilize it.
Good job and think real hard about what I said. On the other note, be careful who you talked to about this because many have disappeared and or been killed over these types of devises.
Look what I found on this guy's website. This is just a small sample, there are pages and pages of it. He thinks he is the new messiah.
Hans von Lieven
hansvonlieven, LOL, are you serious?
Water contains iron and if enough electricity is forced into a pool of water with a iron content, it will create a arc because electricity is attracted to iron. The only reason we don?t see lightning hit water very often is because water doesn't contain high enough levels to attract it.
Do I have to explain what plasma is and it?s affects? LOL
The more I come across these scenarios, the more I am convinced my theory is 100% correct.
Yep, serious,
check it out http://www.noblefuse.com/noblefuse.pdf He is on a mission from God to form a world government called SEMITICA (can you believe it) with God as the head of state.
Hans von Lieven
Hans, "religion" can happen even to the brightest of men, i don't want to get deeper into that issue at this point.
It appears that this man is aiming at creating a continous process out of what was achieved at Sandia labs a while ago. They measured overunity in som shots of their Z-pinch. Repeatedly. It really happened. It even went mainstream. I am not aware of any follow-up of this. Anybody? Basically they discharged a big capacitor battery into a thin iron wire. Magnetic pinch, plasma channel..
At first glance it seems a little wild to even consider 245 megavolts continous voltage across a plasma channel. That would require SOME input power and a heck of insulation. Wow! However, common sense is not very useful when to many variables are in the extreme. I can not rule this out on a knowledge basis. What is the impedance of a plasma channel in a hefty magnetic squeeze in the gigahertz range? I'm very far from qualified to answer that. Anybody?
Yeh well, that says it all really.
I was going to tell you about the impossibility of such a Tesla coil being built,
and that his little arc in water is no where near 750 kV, but it's obvious just another
nutbag is blowing his little horn yet again on this forum.
It really does get a bit frustrating wading through the garbage on this site.
I keep coming back though.
its a shame to try and give truth to a public that just likes to verbally smash another human being - and in this case- one who has spent an entire life for the betterment of mankind- I have done it- and i know it- i dont have to prove it- i just tell you- to read my pdf and build it yourself- if you have the knowledge to do so-
in regards to god- a time has come- god is in the government and on your money- absolutely everywhere- yet not fully in your hearts- to those who believe evolution is true- so do i- i believe it has done so way before us- we are seeded as such- ask yourself what can man do 1 thousand years from now-1 million years from now-keep going- time means nothing
but you are wrong with semitica and so much more- i will be glad to speak of my invisible world of god- after society calms down with theirs accusations and name calling and simply repeat my experiments- you will measure positive fusion reactions-
after you have concluded my invisible world of electricity and found i have made your childrens lives far greater- you will ask yourself- in a world of god that controls your breath and all things if it desires to- maybe a message has come along with the discovery- time will tell-
i will not debate what i have been told- i was given orders and i will give them- first- you need to find respect from the deeds i have done-
your first step is to shut up and stop name calling- unity begins with people being accountable for their words-maybe you should practice these words on your own children- see how they like it-
do unto others as you would like unto yourself- a time has come
Hello Hans,
If God is up to bat, my money is on a homerun. I hope the bases are loaded and not just the poster.
Now if someone has called God to bat but didn't checked to see if He is even willing to play the game, that's another matter. lol.
Bessler007
mib HQ
Quote from: hansvonlieven on December 19, 2007, 09:59:00 PM
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Look what I found on this guy's website. This is just a small sample, there are pages and pages of it. He thinks he is the new messiah.
Hans von Lieven
. . .
noblefuse,
Something just occured to me as I re-read your idea. God has stood up the plate. Since it's a plate of your creation then by proxy God has stood you up.
What do you think?
Bessler007
mib HQ
Quote from: noblefuse on January 21, 2008, 01:38:08 PM
its a shame to try and give truth to a public that just likes to verbally smash another human being - and in this case- one who has spent an entire life for the betterment of mankind- I have done it- and i know it- i dont have to prove it- i just tell you- to read my pdf and build it yourself- if you have the knowledge to do so-
in regards to god- a time has come- god is in the government and on your money- absolutely everywhere- yet not fully in your hearts- to those who believe evolution is true- so do i- i believe it has done so way before us- we are seeded as such- ask yourself what can man do 1 thousand years from now-1 million years from now-keep going- time means nothing
but you are wrong with semitica and so much more- i will be glad to speak of my invisible world of god- after society calms down with theirs accusations and name calling and simply repeat my experiments- you will measure positive fusion reactions-
after you have concluded my invisible world of electricity and found i have made your childrens lives far greater- you will ask yourself- in a world of god that controls your breath and all things if it desires to- maybe a message has come along with the discovery- time will tell-
i will not debate what i have been told- i was given orders and i will give them- first- you need to find respect from the deeds i have done-
your first step is to shut up and stop name calling- unity begins with people being accountable for their words-maybe you should practice these words on your own children- see how they like it-
do unto others as you would like unto yourself- a time has come
Sam
What has happened here reminds me of when cold fusion was first anounced .
These " new " guys popped up from no where and claimed to have discovered a new kind of fusion .
If course this quickly lead to most of the other people in related fields fighting to " protect " their own positions in their fields . ........ for the most part they protected themselves by claiming that cold fusion was a fraud .
It is sad that the minds of whose that claim to be our scientific leaders are so narrow minded and self centered,.
It is sad that the so called "experts " in this forum choose to spend their time finding fault with every new idea that comes along ............rather than looking to see if something can come from it.
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Do any of you " experts " understand that the oil producinng countrys are putting out pretty much all that they can ?
Do any of you ' experts " understand that the population keeps growing but our energy reserves keep shrinking?
Do any of you " experts " understand that the developed nations have been shipping most of their labor intensive jobs to less developed countries for many years ?
Do any of you " experts " understand what will happen when the people in these developing nations decide that they want to drive a car to work and use energy like we do in the so called developed nations ?
If you think there is tension in the mid east right now ? Wait 5 years ......by then the price of oil will probably have doubled once or twice more. ....... the greed will probably have doubled many times more than the oil price.
The higher the price goes ......... the more the greedy will demand to control it all .
There can be no peace in the mid east as long as the greedy people controling our governments keep trying to squeeze every last drop of oil out of the mid east . These people can't stop .... they know nothing but greed .
The people of the mideast can't just give in and let them take everything ........they have to keep fighting .
The answer has to be to take oil out of the equation
The answer is not going to come from the goverment
It has to come from people like us .........people that are willing to look beyond what we have been taught .
What side are you on?
Do your posts here support the people trying to find an answer .
Or do they serve big oil ?
gary
All right noblefuse, can you describe how you achieved to in fact build such a Tesla coil. ie. size, number of turns, power input.
I know a bit about TCs and will be able to understand what you mean as you describe it.
Gary,
Big oil signs my check and lets me ride the black helicopters to vacation at the palatial island mansions of the Illuminati. It's a despicable job but someone has to do it.
Bessler007
mib HQ
Quote from: one on January 21, 2008, 06:31:02 PM
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It has to come from people like us .........people that are willing to look beyond what we have been taught .
What side are you on?
Do your posts here support the people trying to find an answer .
Or do they serve big oil ?
gary
This is pitiful. Sticks and stones will break your bones but it's impossible to verbally smash someone. It's absurd to make that claim or comparison. It calls into question your judgment about what you think you've discovered.
Do what you want but here's a suggestion. When someone questions your idea then defend it. If someone questions your motives ignore it.
Stop acting so pitiful. Be a man about the matter; unless you're a woman. Then be a woman but by all means stop being a pitiful sniveling wimp.
This is just a request. You don't have to change.
Bessler007
mib HQ
Quote from: noblefuse on January 21, 2008, 01:38:08 PM
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its a shame to try and give truth to a public that just likes to verbally smash another human being - and in this case- one who has spent an entire life for the betterment of mankind- I have done it- and i know it- i dont have to prove it- i just tell you- to read my pdf and build it yourself- if you have the knowledge to do so-
. . .
hello gentlemen- i was a bit harsh- but my patience has run out after nine months of using my full time devotion to spread this-as is it not my duty if i fundamentally believe this may help all our lives-- it is not god i anguish over in regards to a full plate- it is my fellowmans faith- i knew by posting such things publically would deter many to look- yet it was meant to be and it is merely a matter of time when laughter/insults/mystery ends and facts begin- this experiment is new- the gentlemen who mentioned the z pinch was on the right track- a dc pulse is part of the story- we all know alternating current made to resonate upon any load is always more fundamental in anything- thus ac wins again for this- it is the combination of high voltage and frequency which will cause the pinch of isotopes- let me try this for an analogy
Here is a thought experiment with Einstein in mind- you are a water molecule-and you live in a lightning bolt- i propose electromagnetic fusion to end the energy crisis
Pretend you are water-you are an oxygen atom- you are stable- you are noble- 8 protons-8 neutrons-and 8 electrons- there are only 5 magic shell nuclear elements of the periodic table- oxygen is one of them- it is very stable-
Therefore- you are stable and noble- now you are this noble one and you have outstretched in your hands a hydrogen atom and or its isotope deuteron and you hold it out to mankind as a gift- a water molecule
Man understands the gift of fusion for many years and is desperately trying to do such-
I propose electromagnetic fusion with heavy water to end the energy crisis- I propose the BENNET pinch used in poloidal currents used in plasmas of tokomaks since the 50?s- but much further-
Here we go ? the thought experiment- you are this oxygen atom with two hydrogen?s and you stand amongst your friends similar in nature. You are placed in a large vessel filled of your kind-now imagine that two walls opposing in this vessel are the plates of a capacitor- who cares what is applied to the capacitor plates (electrodes of system)-for all you know as a noble oxygen and the hydrogen you have in your hands is nothing more than the electric field upon the plates-
You are composed of charged particles- thus you will interact with the applied electric field of the plates-this is common electronics and electric knowledge-
However, I speak of dielectric breakdown- I speak of the lightning bolt- let us now assume we have made the capacitor plates oscillate at 1 million volts peak to peak as way of a tesla coil
Think of the electric field- everything will be controlled by this field- a dielectric breakdown will occur- and all discharge current will begin to flow and oscillate as a function of the applied voltage-
Now- you are in the heart of a lightning bolt- you who are noble as a oxygen probably lost all your valence electrons due to the magnitude of such a high electric field- every charged particle in transit of the discharge current is surely ionized and talks of being a complete water molecule should be erased- the state of this plasma current is nothing more than ionized hydrogen and oxygen and a complete sea of electrons-
Let us think first of the electrons- 1896 times smaller than protons- no question it will oscillate much faster as a function to the applied voltage- remember the cathode ray scope- basic physics also will say this charged particle will also have a magnetic field about itself because of the electric field that has driven it-thus- this oscillating electron current will have an intrinsic magnetic field
Let us now think of the protons- oxygen has 8 and surrounded by 8 neutrons and is far less likely for reaction than isotopes of hydrogen for fusion- this should merely be understood by refereeing to atomic tables of elements and known theory- but this hydrogen is a singly bound proton with mass one- unless we speak of a deuteron- it will also be controlled exactly the same way as the electron is affected by the external applied voltage- however- it is opposite to the electrons motion-and much slower by its mass ? however-its magnetic field will add to that of the electrons- this is standard knowledge of magnetic field generation of charged particles by way of electric fields-
Thus, in this thought experiment- within this state of dielectric breakdown- I like to say the lightning bolt- can you now see the oscillation of the charged particles by such a large magnitude of the applied voltage plates- can you now see the probability at a certain moment in time- particularly when the applied ac signal is greatest- that all magnetic fields of charged particles in transit can have the power to be magnetically pinched-
Magnetics have push and pull- it is well known that high frequency causes a constriction upon electrical currents- whether in copper lines and forcing such to the surface- or in plasma and made use to constrict it - high frequency is known to constrict the currents- thus- do you see the forces I am referring to as this dielectric breakdown has occurred upon the most perfect fuel of the heavens- water- this oxygen atom holds the hydrogen for us- we shall apply a high voltage(high is relative- I have stated 750kv in the vicinity of the hydrogen for fusion- I come to this by way of understanding the beta decay of a free neutron- if it can disintegrate- it can come together- made into a deuteron- then made into helium)-
Thus ?we make helium and oxygen is then unbound and must also be recaptured- this is easy in expansion tanks- the byproducts are helium and oxygen-truly noble-
To increase the q of this system- a simple toroidal magnet as used in tokamaks for plasma control may be used for additional pinching-
I hope this helps- however- you must always think of the applied electric field and its magnetic inducement upon the charged particles- we will stably run the tesla coil upon the dielectric of water itself(more appropriately heavy water) and turn up the voltage for greater acceleration speeds and thus magnetic fields- we can control pressure in this vessel- we can control electrode spacing and so much more-
that is my thought experiment for you to understand it is my intention to use all input energy by way of oscillating a very large electric field which will induce the proper magnetic flux density in units of Tesla for a pinching- not established hot fusion whereby all energy input is chaotic and the probability of fusion comes by way of statistics from a gas equation- no- high voltage and high frequency in an orderly manner by the construction of a man made lightning bolt with controllable parameters inside an existing pressurized nuclear reactor- everything is off the shelf- the world will run on steam power again globally-from trains-factories-ships-and all power plants- i offer the Watt steam engine again- not with two sticks to make fire and boil the water- but electromagnetic fusion with two electrodes to induce fusion of hydrogen isotopes to boil water and make steam- it is absolutely perfect.
To the CEO?s of nuclear power plants-or pressurized coal fired- you have spare reactors in the back yards of your plants- take a 1 million volt Tesla coil and do what I have said- you will measure its fusion reactions and you will say to yourself-hmmmm- I have found the road to safe clean energy.
I speak plain science- please connect the dots and let us end this energy crisis for a world that desperately needs energy- May the light of God shine upon all our actions for the betterment of mankind
Solomon azar
noblefuse,
If you have something of consequence, and if you really want to make an impact in the open source community, you must communicate exactly what it is you have created so that it may be duplicated.
I'm sure that it is a wonderful feeling to have personally discovered something within your own reality. And I'm sure that it does exist in your own reality. But for it to exist within the reality of others, you must reach into that reality and participate in that creation. And, that requires good communication. If you are truly interested in the public's duplication of you discovery. Give it concise steps and specifications. And layout the series of experiments that must be done to complete the machine and that prove the machine's potentials.
You indicate that you are a messenger.
Therefore, I request that you communicate. As true communication begins with the intention to communicate something that is to be duplicated at the the receipt point. Then sending out the the communication (voice, words, particles, energies) to the receipt point. Finally, duplicating that the receipt point received and duplicates your communication on the return flow. Only then do we have understanding.
There are many who would be very interested in pursuing a proof of your discovery.
But, where is your proof of rightness?
You request to be proven wrong.
But there is no experiment there are no measurements to be proven wrong.
Do something for mankind.
Allow your proof of OU to be duplicated!
What are the components?
What is the experiment?
What are the measurements?
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I'm making a modification to my post to show my initial reaction to reading the noble.pdf.
I have to admit that there are many things in your document that are outside of my understanding.
As a result, it was my initial reaction to those things that I did understand was to attack it
or dis-regard it.
Upon re-reading the document, I can see that you want others to create upon a foundation
that you have laid out. As there are apparently many ways to achieve the indicated results.
And I hope that others with greater skill, and those who can see the promise of your work, work toward
that goal of understanding, duplication and creation.
And I see now that you can be duplicated, as long as the reader desires to duplicate you and
clear up is mis-understood words.
So, I wish your project the best.
Sorry for the initial reaction.
Best Regards,
-Dogs
PS. I still hope that someone publishes these experiments so that I can duplicate them.
Quote from: noblefuse on January 22, 2008, 12:15:09 AM
hello gentlemen- i was a bit harsh- but my patience has run out after nine months of using my full time devotion to spread this-as is it not my duty if i fundamentally believe this may help all our lives-- it is not god i anguish over in regards to a full plate- it is my fellowmans faith- i knew by posting such things publically would deter many to look- yet it was meant to be and it is merely a matter of time when laughter/insults/mystery ends and facts begin- this experiment is new- the gentlemen who mentioned the z pinch was on the right track- a dc pulse is part of the story- we all know alternating current made to resonate upon any load is always more fundamental in anything- thus ac wins again for this- it is the combination of high voltage and frequency which will cause the pinch of isotopes- let me try this for an analogy
Here is a thought experiment with Einstein in mind- you are a water molecule-and you live in a lightning bolt- i propose electromagnetic fusion to end the energy crisis
Pretend you are water-you are an oxygen atom- you are stable- you are noble- 8 protons-8 neutrons-and 8 electrons- there are only 5 magic shell nuclear elements of the periodic table- oxygen is one of them- it is very stable-
Therefore- you are stable and noble- now you are this noble one and you have outstretched in your hands a hydrogen atom and or its isotope deuteron and you hold it out to mankind as a gift- a water molecule
Man understands the gift of fusion for many years and is desperately trying to do such-
I propose electromagnetic fusion with heavy water to end the energy crisis- I propose the BENNET pinch used in poloidal currents used in plasmas of tokomaks since the 50?s- but much further-
Here we go ? the thought experiment- you are this oxygen atom with two hydrogen?s and you stand amongst your friends similar in nature. You are placed in a large vessel filled of your kind-now imagine that two walls opposing in this vessel are the plates of a capacitor- who cares what is applied to the capacitor plates (electrodes of system)-for all you know as a noble oxygen and the hydrogen you have in your hands is nothing more than the electric field upon the plates-
You are composed of charged particles- thus you will interact with the applied electric field of the plates-this is common electronics and electric knowledge-
However, I speak of dielectric breakdown- I speak of the lightning bolt- let us now assume we have made the capacitor plates oscillate at 1 million volts peak to peak as way of a tesla coil
Think of the electric field- everything will be controlled by this field- a dielectric breakdown will occur- and all discharge current will begin to flow and oscillate as a function of the applied voltage-
Now- you are in the heart of a lightning bolt- you who are noble as a oxygen probably lost all your valence electrons due to the magnitude of such a high electric field- every charged particle in transit of the discharge current is surely ionized and talks of being a complete water molecule should be erased- the state of this plasma current is nothing more than ionized hydrogen and oxygen and a complete sea of electrons-
Let us think first of the electrons- 1896 times smaller than protons- no question it will oscillate much faster as a function to the applied voltage- remember the cathode ray scope- basic physics also will say this charged particle will also have a magnetic field about itself because of the electric field that has driven it-thus- this oscillating electron current will have an intrinsic magnetic field
Let us now think of the protons- oxygen has 8 and surrounded by 8 neutrons and is far less likely for reaction than isotopes of hydrogen for fusion- this should merely be understood by refereeing to atomic tables of elements and known theory- but this hydrogen is a singly bound proton with mass one- unless we speak of a deuteron- it will also be controlled exactly the same way as the electron is affected by the external applied voltage- however- it is opposite to the electrons motion-and much slower by its mass ? however-its magnetic field will add to that of the electrons- this is standard knowledge of magnetic field generation of charged particles by way of electric fields-
Thus, in this thought experiment- within this state of dielectric breakdown- I like to say the lightning bolt- can you now see the oscillation of the charged particles by such a large magnitude of the applied voltage plates- can you now see the probability at a certain moment in time- particularly when the applied ac signal is greatest- that all magnetic fields of charged particles in transit can have the power to be magnetically pinched-
Magnetics have push and pull- it is well known that high frequency causes a constriction upon electrical currents- whether in copper lines and forcing such to the surface- or in plasma and made use to constrict it - high frequency is known to constrict the currents- thus- do you see the forces I am referring to as this dielectric breakdown has occurred upon the most perfect fuel of the heavens- water- this oxygen atom holds the hydrogen for us- we shall apply a high voltage(high is relative- I have stated 750kv in the vicinity of the hydrogen for fusion- I come to this by way of understanding the beta decay of a free neutron- if it can disintegrate- it can come together- made into a deuteron- then made into helium)-
Thus ?we make helium and oxygen is then unbound and must also be recaptured- this is easy in expansion tanks- the byproducts are helium and oxygen-truly noble-
To increase the q of this system- a simple toroidal magnet as used in tokamaks for plasma control may be used for additional pinching-
I hope this helps- however- you must always think of the applied electric field and its magnetic inducement upon the charged particles- we will stably run the tesla coil upon the dielectric of water itself(more appropriately heavy water) and turn up the voltage for greater acceleration speeds and thus magnetic fields- we can control pressure in this vessel- we can control electrode spacing and so much more-
that is my thought experiment for you to understand it is my intention to use all input energy by way of oscillating a very large electric field which will induce the proper magnetic flux density in units of Tesla for a pinching- not established hot fusion whereby all energy input is chaotic and the probability of fusion comes by way of statistics from a gas equation- no- high voltage and high frequency in an orderly manner by the construction of a man made lightning bolt with controllable parameters inside an existing pressurized nuclear reactor- everything is off the shelf- the world will run on steam power again globally-from trains-factories-ships-and all power plants- i offer the Watt steam engine again- not with two sticks to make fire and boil the water- but electromagnetic fusion with two electrodes to induce fusion of hydrogen isotopes to boil water and make steam- it is absolutely perfect.
To the CEO?s of nuclear power plants-or pressurized coal fired- you have spare reactors in the back yards of your plants- take a 1 million volt Tesla coil and do what I have said- you will measure its fusion reactions and you will say to yourself-hmmmm- I have found the road to safe clean energy.
I speak plain science- please connect the dots and let us end this energy crisis for a world that desperately needs energy- May the light of God shine upon all our actions for the betterment of mankind
Solomon azar
Sam
The way you explain it makes it seem almost easy .
It seems to me from what I understand about the prosess is that the tesla coil is the key to the whole thing
You would need a very well controled coil to do anthing consistantly .
I know that you said something about everthing on your tesla coil being adjustable.
I spent some time a while back on some of the tesla coil buiding sites .
I didn't agree with the guys that were building coils there.
What I know about tesla coils is that they are tuned circuits .
ALL of these guys had a tuned primary and a tuned secondary ........and a unsynchronized motorized spark gap in between .
They all said that the sparks should be uneaven ......... it seems to me that they uneavenness is the spark gap drifting closer and farther from resonance .
It seems to me that to do what you say ............you would need a VERY powerful and VERY smooth flow of energy from your coil
gary
Props to you Dogs. That was very well written.
Sam,
Your idea:
It seems to me that to do what you say ............you would need a VERY powerful and VERY smooth flow of energy from your coil.
. . . I believe is supported by Tesla's turbine. He explains that (paraphrase) drastic change in a system isn't efficient. I think you're right on the money with the idea of "smooth flow of energy".
noblefuse,
If you really want to share your idea you need to distill the verbal descriptions as much as you can. Also what would be a great help is if you would draw flow diagrams and pictorial schematics.
Best of luck with it.
Bessler007
mib HQ
Quote from: noblefuse on January 22, 2008, 12:15:09 AM
hello gentlemen- i was a bit harsh- but my patience has run out - Solomon azar
"Since my discovery
and my absolute belief
I have uncovered the road to safe and clean nuclear fusion- all of which
I have openly disclosed
I have done so by the grace of GOD-
my faith and understanding of the unseen world is as strong as the world of forces we see in front of us-electricity-matter-what we feel and see with our eyes.
I have openly said that since the age of 33
I have received many enlightened words of UNITY from my dear lord- and it was
my two way communication to such an entity that
I will PROUDLY GIVE YOUR WORDS WHEN
I DISCOVER A MAJOR SCIENTIFIC FINDING"
http://people.tribe.net/noblefuse/blog/d40f07f2-f285-4f6e-98fa-ca3beede35a1 (http://people.tribe.net/noblefuse/blog/d40f07f2-f285-4f6e-98fa-ca3beede35a1)
Beam me up Scotty,
Schpankme
Nanoo Nanoo .. yup .. over and out.
beam me up scotty- he also made a video on cold fusion along with arthur clark several years ago- god rest his soul as he passed-
communication-by the way-nanoo naoo was a good show- i love humor too my friends- and i dont think the topic of god is humorous-i am serious
to all those that would laugh at my dreams and visions- i would say to you- laugh at yours- laugh and insult everything in your thoughts that make you feel that there is something to the big picture-
someone cut a page from my story about the valley of the gods-
i will say this to all who love the movie christmas carol-
in my so called dreams and visions- it was your ancestors that came to me- it was entire spirit world that honored my work and lifes actions to unity and peace-
if you insult that- then you insult your parents-your forefathers- for in my creation- they came to me-not the other way around-
i see the significance in such as this: our ancestors of spirit honored my actions- it will take time for the living- you- to stop laughing-etc-and simply get to heart of the matter- did i find unlimited energy by way of high voltage high frequency- i say i did- i do not want to play tennis with words- buried in my sites i give all information-
let me repeat one as it was asked for- every aspect of coil was tunable- using dc motors from the junkyard-(a century buick-how fitting as it is a century since the ideas of tesla and einstein in which i find this) i built insulated mechanisms to tune each stage-why-
because the heavy water is still a load- it has impedance- it will vary according to various conditions of pressure temp-electrode spacing-etc-
thus-tunable to strike the arc- once set- i increase voltage and measure greater reactions from my gamma ray detector-
i am not westinghouse- i am alone- i hand built all my coils-i use parts from junkyard- and i pray i am right- why- i am the little guy who would not stop- after several bankruptcys and lifes trails- i continued- i pray i am right for not only the benefit of mankind by way of energy- but for the fact any human being- not a corporation may still do the impossible as viewed by others-
i think i did- i wait till me fellowman to stop insulting me and just be positive for a moment- when you are positive you will see the mechanism i propose-
if you want me to stay in this forum- then be respectful-
Quote from: noblefuse on January 22, 2008, 10:07:04 AM
god rest his soul as he passed-
i love humor too my friends
i dont think the topic of god is humorous-
i am serious
i would say to you-
my story about the valley of the gods-
i will say this
my so called dreams and visions
my work and lifes actions
my creation
i see the significance in such as this
my actions
i find unlimited energy
i say
i did-
i do not
i give all information-
i find this)
i built insulated mechanisms to tune each stage-why-
i increase voltage
my gamma ray detector-
i am not westinghouse-
i am alone-
i hand built all my coils-
i use parts from junkyard-
i pray
i am right
i am the little guy
i continued
i pray
i am right
i think
i did-
i wait
i propose-
if you want me to stay in this forum- then be respectful-
Goodbye,
- Schpankme
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i think i did- i wait till me fellowman to stop insulting me and just be positive for a moment- when you are positive you will see the mechanism i propose-
if you want me to stay in this forum- then be respectful-
These people insulting you really has very little to do with you.
I would say it has nothing to do with you , but you knew it was going to happen before you started posting here.
Everyone chooses what kind of person they want to be .
The people that are insulting you are just being who they choose to be.
When all you have inside your heart is EGO it leaves a great emptyness.
These people are trying to fill that emptyness by trying to feel superior to others.
The only tool that they have for feeling better is to find ways to think of themselves as better than someone. They need someone to laugh at .
You made yourself a target for them by bringing up things you believe.
You could have shared your ideas about what you have created without bringing up these things . but you chose not to .
It is going to be a while before they stop .
Life is a journey ........and your journey has brought you here.
There are still people here that will listen to your ideas.
I believe that most of the people here are open enough to say . I might not agree with how you came up with this idea, but it is a good idea .
Right now most of those people will not talk. They don't want to become part of the target if they can help it.
Sam
Do you still think you have something that you need to share with the world?
Does the fact that a few choose to make fun of you change what you have to offer?
The choice is yours . What do you choose to focus on now?
No matter where you go or who you meet you can always focus on the beauty and wonder of life . .............. Or you can focus on the trash beside the road .
I am betting that you are strong enough and wise enough to look beyond the trash .
gary
This is rich and I think systemic of crank reasoning. Key in what I see is the idea of this opening point:
- These people insulting you really has very little to do with you.
I would say it has nothing to do with you , but you knew it was going to happen before you started posting here.
Everyone chooses what kind of person they want to be .
. . . with all the tripe in the middle and bounded by this insulting insinuation at the close:
- I am betting that you are strong enough and wise enough to look beyond the trash .
Well, let's look a the premise:
- Everyone chooses what kind of person they want to be
in view of the topic began by noblefuse:
I HAVE ACHIEVED OVERUNITY
I'll give you the point of your thread, noblefuse, that you have achieved OU. What is your point of opening this thread? Now consider the result of you being mistaken about your claim of OU. Would that mean you weren't being honest with your title. Your choice of a title was yours yet consider the possibility you are wrong. Your choice of a title calls into question your integrity.
That was your choice.Does that put you in the camp of what gary refers to as "the trash beside the road"? Should people overlook your false assertion? Well as I see it since you've taken the step of opening a thread with the claim you've made, you have no choice but to defend your idea and prove you are not a liar. More choices.
Often times the problems people have to deal with are of their own creation. You've created other problems for yourself, noblefuse, but there's no reason to discuss them right now. It isn't quite right to blame others for the problems you have created. In the words of gary, "
but you knew it was going to happen before you started posting here."
How could you know? :) Because you're a prophet? lol. So you've created problems for yourself and now you don't want to deal with them. If you were a prophet I'd say that wasn't very smart of you.
Defend yourself and your idea and can the manipulation. Be real. I don't think anyone here is expecting any more than that.
Bessler007
mib HQ
Quote from: one on January 22, 2008, 12:31:09 PM
. . .
These people insulting you really has very little to do with you.
I would say it has nothing to do with you , but you knew it was going to happen before you started posting here.
Everyone chooses what kind of person they want to be .
The people that are insulting you are just being who they choose to be.
When all you have inside your heart is EGO it leaves a great emptyness.
These people are trying to fill that emptyness by trying to feel superior to others.
The only tool that they have for feeling better is to find ways to think of themselves as better than someone. They need someone to laugh at .
You made yourself a target for them by bringing up things you believe.
You could have shared your ideas about what you have created without bringing up these things . but you chose not to .
It is going to be a while before they stop .
Life is a journey ........and your journey has brought you here.
There are still people here that will listen to your ideas.
I believe that most of the people here are open enough to say . I might not agree with how you came up with this idea, but it is a good idea .
Right now most of those people will not talk. They don't want to become part of the target if they can help it.
Sam
Do you still think you have something that you need to share with the world?
Does the fact that a few choose to make fun of you change what you have to offer?
The choice is yours . What do you choose to focus on now?
No matter where you go or who you meet you can always focus on the beauty and wonder of life . .............. Or you can focus on the trash beside the road .
I am betting that you are strong enough and wise enough to look beyond the trash .
gary
Quote from: one on January 22, 2008, 12:31:09 PM
. . .
These people insulting
you really has very little to do with you.
. . .
I am betting that you are strong enough and
wise enough to look beyond the trash .
gary
Hello Gary,
Thank you for the absurd points. It's mildly humorous to see someone attack insulting comments with insults of their own. The hypocracy is amusing.
I only point out the hypocrisy because I don't suspect you are sharp enough to catch it. Now if I'm wrong and you are sharp enough, then I'd like to point out you're not the only one sharp enough to see the hypocrisy. At a minimum you're not sharp enough to see that others aren't as stupid as you imagine them to be.
You trashy little thing, you. :)
you really has very little to do with youBessler007
mib HQ
gentlemen- i came to discuss science- someone posted a page of another topic i believe also with full conviction- i come to a forum of science for one main reason-to enlightnen my fellowman i have done something alone in which i fundamentally believe- is the road to safe clean nuclear fusion- i only ask someone in this internet world who hears my words- to take any tesla coil of at least 500kv and tune it to resonate for stability- simply measure the output- do not trust me - i do not expect you too- when you see positive results- you will go to next logical step as i am trying to rely- let us put major thought emphasis on this and have it completely built on a pressurized vessel scale with all parameters and to be tunable- consider all aspects of actual plasma conduction in an operating fusion plant as i touched upon in pdf and many other sites of noblefuse-
lets just do it
Why don't you get off this personal bullshit and show some videos and such of this system working with real world measurements. If you do not have a working system then go Build It! Then talk about the device and leave you personal baggage behind. You have spent most of you time here defending your character. We care about the technology not your character or personal beliefs. though you would not know that as for all these feeble and child like replies here!
This forum is steadily going down hill
Just Build It
IronHead
noblefuse,
IronHead didn't put it too kindly but in spite of that he is on the point. I can't disagree with it.
I've briefly read your pdf and so far the attached very crude picture represents my understanding of your idea.
Could you kindly fill in the gaps?
Bessler007
mib HQ
@Bessler007 & other agressive members,
I have been following your comments:
insulting, negative, destructive...
this forum and the world do not need this.
if you don't agree with some statement, just do it respectfully or say nothing at all.
Insults and ridiculing are signs of immaturity or insecurity or frustration or lack of education or all of them together.
Interesting people have been "chased" away from this forum because of this, resulting in a loss of potential and a downgrading of this forum.
OU and free energy will only be obtained with serene and dedicated attitude.
Eden
Hello Eden,
It's impossible to handle the sweeping generalizations of your feelings. You'd have to cite a specific point I've made and your objections.
I do agree you have a right to "feel" any way you choose but you couldn't possibly expect anyone to address your feelings. Be specific.
If you can't be specific I'd note you're not helping to bring this somewhat dubious claim to any resolution.
Bessler007
mib HQ
Quote from: Eden on January 22, 2008, 05:35:07 PM
. . .
if you don't agree with some statement, just do it respectfully or say nothing at all.Insults and ridiculing are signs of immaturity or insecurity or frustration or lack of education or all of them together.
. . .
I might add, Eden, is this back handed insult a sign of your immaturity or insecurity or frustration or lack of education or ....
is it all of the above.
I hope you agree with the tactful way I've pointed out your hypocracy. I do have a request in the spirit you've requested of me (as I emboldend above); that is stop playing the hypocrite.
Bessler007
mib HQ
edit: or maybe you're not playing, that's what you really are? wow, I'm so confused. Must be my lack of education.
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Thank you for the absurd points. It's mildly humorous to see someone attack insulting comments with insults of their own. The hypocracy is amusing.
Bessler
My comment about trash beside the road was part of an anaogy.
I did not actually state that anyone here is trash .
But I did realise that my comment would be personalised and someone would use it aganst me .
I don't get into name calling . I find there is nothing to gain from calling names .
I have my own opinions . but I see no reason to call people names based on my opinions .
Now .......sense you brought it up . Just for clarity I will state just what it would take for me to think of someone as trash . ..... I will not call anyone here trash even if I think that the fit my idea of trash perfectly .
I see everthing in the physical universe as being the sum of its parts .
Nothing can become more than the parts that it is made of.
As an example of how this works I will use the earth.
As long as we live on this planet we are part of earth .
How does this fit into what is trash to me ?
Each way we choose to interact with the earth and the other lifeforms here showes what kind of person we want to be.
Cancer is a disease where the cells of a body " forget " their function within the body and start growing out of control . Cancer serves no one except itself .
The funny thing about cancer ....... it only serves itself but because it only serves it self if left unchecked eventually kills its host .
In my opinion people that only serve themselves are a kind of cancer of the earth .
In my opinion if most of humanity choose to only serve themselves humanity will die ........ and rightly so .
Those people that are pulling the strings of our governments are clearly cancer to me. If left unchecked humanity is going to run into a brick wall in the not to distant future.
Can humanity survive another 50 years if we keep following the path we are on ?....... personally I don't think so .
The bottom line is ...... either you choose to be part of the problem or part of the solution.
You are either an asset to earth .......or a parasite .
If we are a race of parasites .........the universe will be a better place when we are gone.
This room works in the same way as the earth as a whole .
Do you spend your time here trying to help people find an answer for our energy problems ? Or do you attack any idea that you can find a flaw in?
Are you an asset to this room ......or are you a parasite?
The first part of my post that got me into this little chat was about cold fusion.
I believe that there is something to cold fusion
I beleive that science is now proving that. ( not so much in the US )
I beleive that there is something to what Sam has been talking about .
Is it what he thinks it is ? I don't know .
I do think that we should try to find out .
OK
here is the acid test about if I would think of you as trash .
Is the world a better place because you are here ?
Is this message board a better place because you are here?
If you are here just to get your jollys by tearing the ideas of others apart ....... you are clearly trash to me .
I am here because I see that humanity is reaching a critical point .
If we can't learn to work together on matters like energy we arn't going to last long .
The governments of this world are not going to help .
If the energy problems of humanity are to be solved .......WE must solve them .... We don't have the option of waiting for someone else to fix our problems .
gary
Ok, gary, here's why your opinion is pure tripe to me. If an idea can be torn apart it has no merit and should be dismantled as quickly as possible so people can move on to something that does have merit. Your notion of "getting jollies" excludes the possibility of getting to the heart of the matter.
I could agree I "get my jollies" by cutting to the chase; to see if there's somthing valid being said.
In your case, given you don't show much of a backbone in your insulting nature I don't really give a rats backside what your judgement is in other matters (eg: If you are here just to get your jollys by
tearing the ideas of others apart ....... you are clearly trash to me .)
I'll put it this way:
- If you can't demonstrate a more critical examination of the facts you are clearly an imbecile to me.
That's about in the same form as your judgment was. If it was agreeable to you to put it in that form I can't imagine any objection you'd have if I give it back to you in that form yet in different terms.
Hiding behind insinuation indicates a lack of back bone. Grow a backbone.
Bessler007
mib HQ
Quote from: one on January 22, 2008, 05:46:36 PM
. . .
OK
here is the acid test about if I would think of you as trash .
Is the world a better place because you are here ?
Is this message board a better place because you are here?
If you are here just to get your jollys by
tearing the ideas of others apart ....... you are clearly trash to me .
noblefuse
(https://overunityarchives.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2Findex.php%3Faction%3Ddlattach%3Btopic%3D3741.0%3Battach%3D16734%3Bimage&hash=3b3b51fef2df7adda1f3e6c5a982b8497db580f9)
I'm still wondering, as others might be, if you could fill in the gaps of this understanding.
Bessler007
mib HQ
Stop wasting your time. Go build something , all of yaz
I have finished what I have set to do here.
IronHead
Quote from: Bessler007 on January 22, 2008, 06:01:55 PM
Ok, gary, here's why your opinion is pure tripe to me. If an idea can be torn apart it has no merit and should be dismantled as quickly as possible so people can move on to something that does have merit. Your notion of "getting jollies" excludes the possibility of getting to the heart of the matter.
I could agree I "get my jollies" by cutting to the chase; to see if there's somthing valid being said.
bessler
OK .......lets assume that your motive is to cut to the chase .
Do you realise that others see your comments as personal attacks ?
You can't actually tear apart someone elses idea ...... no matter what you say they will believe what they want to beleive about what they have found.
What you will change is their impression of you .......and their willingness to share there ideas here.
gary
I'll help you out just this one time Gary. This is a personal attack:
- You, Gary, are ugly and your mother dresses you funny.
I have no idea if you are indeed ugly or how your mother dresses you. I might add it's irrelevant to any discussion here. Also it's only an example of a personal attack and isn't meant to be taken seriously. If you do then you take yourself too seriously.
Now this isn't a personal attack and speaks only to the facts:
Noblefuse, if it can be shown you were lying with your assertion of "achieving OU" then it is a given you aren't a messiah or anointed of God or that you could be considered a prophet. The key test of a prophet is that not even circumstances can cause them to lie. Ergo if your claim is false you are a very big liar.
I hope you can see the difference.
A final point, Gary, I'm not responsible for how people perceive things. It's absurd of you to attempt to create that relationship.
Bessler007
mib HQ
:D
200+ million volts!!! I about died when I read that. Look out for the 10 foot arcs.
The device must have one hell of a secondary to insulate such unheard of voltages...
I really want to see this thing... Any photos yet?
~Dingus Mungus
@Ironhead
Ditto on all counts.
@noblefuse
May I suggest you erase all your posts on this site, then go to your web site and change it to a more technical oriented exposition of your device and remove all inferences to GOD.
Then come back here and take a new user name and start over.
If GOD gave you this device, he surely did not super-endow you with the ability to push the device and GOD at the same time. I suggest you make a choice. Either you're a preacher or an inventor, but mixing them both together spells more of a crackpot. At least in most neck of the woods. I am saying this with the most amount of respect possible. If your main aim is to help mankind by pushing this technology, then I suggest you remove any other distractions to this and concentrate only on the technology. The rest will take care of itself.
Last opinion. This type of technology will scare many replicators because of the high voltages involved and the scale of the equipment required. Also the OU portion of your presentation is not clear. It has to be crystal clear to the observer as to how and why your device is producing OU.
All the best.
Quote from: Dingus Mungus on January 22, 2008, 06:54:44 PM
:D
200+ million volts!!! I about died when I read that. Look out for the 10 foot arcs.
The device must have one hell of a secondary to insulate such unheard of voltages...
I really want to see this thing... Any photos yet?
~Dingus Mungus
At the end of this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU1hS4_erdE
"...... imagine my system as inside a pressurized water reactor used in fission plants- the moderator is already heavy water- we shall use it as the fuel."
Why are you using Heavy water as the fuel?
(Heavy water being water with high, sometimes 100% Deuterium Oxide, D2O or ?H2O, or Deuterium Protium Oxide, HDO or ?H?HO)
Is it because the heavy water has a weaker bond link?
The Tesla coil in the video, all the Tesla coils I saw in the video are not fully tunable.
They look like they resonate at between 160-350 kHz, 160kHz being the larger one in the video.
The potential voltage appears to be about 200-300 kV.
I see now that you meant 256 thousand volts!
I see great difficulty in making a Tesla coil that resonates at 1.42GHz and produces 256 kV, in fact I know that this is impossible. Imagine a Tesla coil 3mm in diameter with 5 turns on the secondary putting out 130mm sparks.
How are you measuring the output? only on the gamma detector?
And for the rest of you, pull your head in and discuss the topic!
Quote from: noblefuse on January 22, 2008, 04:30:44 PM
i came to discuss science
i believe also with full conviction
i come to a forum of science for one main reason-to enlightnen my fellowman
i have done something alone
i fundamentally believe
i only ask someone in this internet world who hears my words
i do not expect you too
i touched upon in pdf and many other sites of noblefuse-
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- Schpankme
"one point twenty one jigawatts; 1.21 jigawatts" - Back to the Future
gentlemen- my apologies- it seems my video and pdf and the fact a tesla coil made to stabley resonate upon the dielectric of pure water dope with deuturons was not enough to convince others to seriously investigate- i thought it was- but then again-it is simple for me to see as i have conceived of this magnetic pinch idea since late 2002- i tried to rely this info to sandia labs and los alomos - but they are busy with hot fusion and z pinch- so i stayed alone and continued- without putting sugar on it- the more you really look at the mechanism- you will see its simplicity and effectiveness-
1. i used dc motors from a buick century driver seat in order to make the spark gap- primary coil about secondary coil movable/tunable/- and also a movable coil of inductance in line with the primary coil-only several microhenries as many would know- i hand built many versions of the coils-and made each one resonate upon the load-
we all know any load will have a resultant impedence- and accordingly apply a ac signal to it- in this case- an ac signal made to cause dielectric breakdown(the lightning bolt) and conduct upon heavy water- why heavy water- for two thirds are the fuel the entire fusion community is trying to fuse- it is the best candidate- and it lies perfect as a water molecule and its obvious benefits as a controlled liquid in pressurized vessels is apparent-- however- i seen positive results with standard ultrapure water- why- i see signs of the Oppenheimer -Phillips process is regards to deuteron production- i note in pdf- ultrapure water is our baseline- then dope it with heavy water for deuterons- also- any element under nickel iron 56 may be found to be used as concentrations within liquid
2. to understand this mechansim- ignore the driving force for now- again-the thought experiment i gave by einstein- the fuel is between electrodes- it doesnt know what power source it is- however- we know it is a tesla coil- a tesla coil has the ability to make extremely large voltages and somewhat of a high frequency- khz range- i have simply taken a tesla coil for its use of high voltage to cause dielectric breakdown and cause plasma conduction- i am saying 750 kv is my theriotical number for the beginning of strong and observable efficiencies- dont care about current here- or poloidal current- lets just look at voltage gradient- ok- now frequency- yes- once this coil is tuned- it is fixed- and i mention a possible resonate frequency of 21cm- but that is speculation and have said so and the gentlemen who mentioned the joy of building one- so have i-- however- even with the khz range- it yields the desired effect- remember skin effect- it is the nature of high frequency and it principles which cause currents to flow to surfaces and cause constriction of plasma- this is magnetic pinch ideology- established for many years and nothing new here- yet- it is the use of high voltage high frequency which is causing the oscillation of charged particles in plasma of water which create the condition
to slam two hydrogens together
i am now going to make a statement and please do not be insulted by it- as it has happened to me--- rubbing two sticks to make fire is as simple as you can get- imagine not knowing then seeing- its an awakening- once you see it- you are positive to it and do it- however- did anyone actually try to rub two sticks - it is very hard- right material- right process-etc--
someone earlier said all you are saying is a tesla coil in water- yes-
the trick is merely understanding the mechanism i am trying to initiate for excess energy-
i am after the magnetic pinch to cause fusion of elements within this so called lightning bolt
applied voltages upon a charged particle cause an intrinsic magnetic field upon that particle- look at cathode ray tube- the electron gets resultant magnetic field- thus we can then control it-
look at high frequency- does it not cause constriction of currents and skin effect- i talked about it in pdf- this is related to change in oscillation is change in velocity componet of applied signal and thus- velocity changes make magnetic changes- look at equation for skin effect and related-
however- simply take these two understandings as something we can build- the tesla coil- and apply to a fuel to try-
i did this upon the greatest material in the world- water- it is perfect as a liquid in a heat transfer mechanism as many know- however- it is perfect as a molecule in regards we can superimpose upon it- high voltage and frequency-
i exhausted all my funds (not to mention life) hand building and testing alone this mechanism- and i have received positive results of fusion- since my time on net-all i say to everyone is - dont trust me- please replicate it so other voices will add to mine- and maybe create some public voice to have this built the way it should-
yes- the 300 million i mentioned is out of the box- i did so to stretch our minds and see how far we can go if applied to a commercial reactor- however- without question- even previously built coils of several million volts which have been built in the past may be used now off the shelf- we can use existing knowledge of standard tesla coils and place within vessel- to increase effiencies- we apply toroidal magnet about plasma arc- someone mentioned you cannot go to high as plasma conduction will increase conductivity- can someone see an applied magnetic field about plasma will introduce a magnetic resistance to plasma circuit- thus- voltage may still be increased- it is high voltage used conjointly with frequency to strike the required magnetic pinch-
gentlemen- i have boldly made the statement of overunity- i stand by it- i did not make a commercial power plant- nor a stand alone steam engine- i tried to show process- i try via paper- i try by risking my life and building it to show you the most simplest version of it- and then go from there-
i will keep on trying- but it is up to society to finish this- i cannot do anymore- my full time devotion to try and aid this energy crisis has left me broke and financially disadvantaged- and to make matters harder for me- all my talks of god- yet-i believe- therefor i am
i will not write again- as i see it is more important to make another video and explain further- i do not like typing- and many things are taken out of context- as you all know-
however- if you are sincere- find me at my website of noblefuse
god bless all of you
Someone in another thread went a*ranting about the harmlessness of cranks looking for a cure to the energy crisis. Well, is it?
Or is it "just getting your jollies" to strenuously suggest one do as exhaustive of an analysis possible in their spare time with very cheap paper and free pencils before they go full bore building 1/2 baked ideas? I don't think so.
Although it's no skin off my arse (yes, I went for the arse again) it's sad to see.
Bessler007
mib HQ
Quote from: noblefuse on January 23, 2008, 09:36:20 AM
. . .
i exhausted all my funds (not to mention life) hand building and testing alone this mechanism- and i have received positive results of fusion- since my time on net-all i say to everyone is - dont trust me- please replicate it so other voices will add to mine- and maybe create some public voice to have this built the way it should-
. . .
@Bessler007
In case you missed it, we are back on technical issues now.
my electric bill was 510.00 dollars last month- my car bills another- the american economy- if not the world is in a strong need of energy- if one cannot see the key to civilization itself is mastery over the elements by way of energy- they do not see the whole picture-
a man called einstein did his crank work in a small office- so did i-
man called tesla made a device that seems to stun the world to this day with lightning bolts- and now i- after 110 years- have given the world of cranks a beautiful experiment to replicate with a tesla coil-why- to finish einstein e=mc2 equation by way of fusion-
15,000 see my video- 20 actually write me and say nice job- thank you for trying and giving new ideas- the vast majority call me names-
someone said the others dont want to be a target-so they stay quiet-- i have now stood openly for many to shoot at- i am tired of standing alone- this is the energy crisis
i have truly found the road to be a mad scientist- mad over my fellowman preoccupied to insult than just deal with the facts of a human being willing to do something where a problem arises-
Sam,
Nice job even though I can't see the video - no YouTubin' allowed
The Tesla Transformer's purpose was not just for "fusion" or sparks and arcs. It is an instrument to study and use "energy" and it's effects.
Peter Graneau and a couple of others published a paper back around 2000, on the excess energy produced by water-arc discharges. This something like the 50J to 300J range and they were not lookig for fusion or excess energy at the time. This paper was peer-reviewed and appeared in a Plasma Physics periodical. Richard Hull still experiments with water-arc explosions and posts on the Furor forum. Think they were getting like 150% with their experiments.
Eric Dollard also has used a Tesla Transformer (balanced MT version - 5 coils) for plasma research and mentions this in his book "Condensed Intro to Tesla Transformers". As far as I know he never published anything else about this line of work.
What type of Tesla Transformer setup are you using?
EDIT:
http://www.rialian.com/rnboyd/powergain.htm
How did you measure Overunity?
Hello AhuraMazda,
I wouldn't mind a technical discussion. I tried to steer it that way twice. What I did notice was that noblefuse said, "i will not write again- as i see it is more important to make another video and explain further- i do not like typing- and many things are taken out of context- as you all know-" so I really thought it was over.
If I weren't looking at an idea I'd take a serious look at his paper to see what I could see. Maybe someone else would like to do that.
Bessler007
mib HQ
So, this man spend all his time and money on something then you(Bessler007) quote "really thought it was over." Wow, talk about being delusional? Your websites says:
" What is the most compelling evidence Bessler wasn't either a fraud or deluded?" So you are CLEARLY not looking for the truth. You are looking to spread propaganda. It's awfully obvious. Reading
further postings from your hand (http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=profile;u=9980;sa=showPosts) makes the case even more clear. Could you please excuse this topic for existing? Thank you.
I think the tech looks great. Nice animation, it looks like a great way to get that small dot of fusion action going on. Seems like just what was needed to fix the problem. (no I don't mean Westinghouse lol)
I however dont have the expertise to work at this, but I hope you can build a generator.
http://www.noblefuse.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5zQSxIIRbs&eurl=http://sam-azar.com/
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3741.0;attach=15264
Quote from: noblefuse on December 11, 2007, 10:15:21 AM
hello, my name is Solomon- and i fundamentally believe I HAVE FOUND THE ROAD TO SAFE CLEAN NUCLEAR FUSION- I have performed an experiment never done before in science- I used a Tesla coil for its use in high voltage high frequency and apply its discharge plasma not upon the dielectric of free air- but to the dielectric of water itself- specifically i used ultrapure reagent grade water from manufactuer NERL-this is to establish the high degree of insulation needed for plasma (you cannot have contaminants for conductivity)- I doped my water with heavy water from the manufacturer UNITED NUCLEAR- I built my 1 million volt tesla coil entire tunable- every aspect of it- as it must be done to TUNE THE OUTPUT DISCHARGE OF THE TESLA COIL to the water itself- once the arc is stable- the voltage may be increased- I have written in my pdf file in my website of noblefuse.com that a prerequisite of 750 kv is needed as an electric field gradient about the charged particles used in fusion( in this case the hydrogen bound in the water molecule) because of voltage drops as expected as in all electrical systems upon the load(load here is the water)- a much higher voltage is needed in order to distribute the voltage gradient upon entire arc plasma length between electrodes in water- THUS- THE HIGH THE VOLTAGE- THE BETTER- within my website you will find a link to youtube showing my primitive experiment- BUT MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT THIS- THIS IS THE FIRST TIME EVER DONE BEFORE - I propose nuclear fusion of water/heavy water- my little experiment IS THE ROAD TO NUCLEAR FUSION- we must universally connect the dots- put two and two together- and conclude this- MY EXPERIMENT MUST BE REPEATED ON A LARGER SCALE- my system is a direct replacement of nuclear power plants particularly of the pressurized water reactor which uses heavy water already - a vessel already built for gamma radiation and other high energy flux which will emit with the plasma arc-
I come to the table with the lightning bolt_ I HAVE FOUND THE TRUE PURPOSE OF THE TESLA COIL- the answer was always in the lightning bolt- understanding of gamma bursts from lightning discharges have only been recently vindictated from satelitee in late 90s---
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Smith, D M ( ) , Physics Department and Santa Cruz Institute for Particle Physics, University of California, Santa Cruz, 1156 High Street, Santa Cruz, CA 95064 United States
Lopez, L I ( ) , Astronomy Department and Space Sciences Laboratory, University of California, Berkeley, CA 94720 United States
The observation of brief (<1 ms) bursts of intense ?-rays, the so-called Terrestrial Gamma-ray Flashes (TGFs), by the BATSE ?-ray experiment was one of the most unexpected discoveries by the Compton Gamma-Ray Observatory. Extensive modeling efforts following this observation interpreted the observations in the context of the runaway acceleration of energetic (>1 MeV) electrons by the intense quasi-static fields that temporarily exist at high altitudes above thunderclouds following positive cloud-to-ground lightning discharges. Association of individual TGFs, and positive cloud to ground (CG) lightning strikes have been demonstrated by means of the measurement of associated radio atmospherics, with at least some of the correlated sferics showing properties similar to those that cause sprites. However, simultaneous VLF data was only available for a few of the BATSE/CGRO events, so that a comprehensive study of this association was not feasible. New evidence from the RHESSI spacecraft now shows that TGFs occur much more commonly and that the photon energies typically extend to ~20 MeV. With the much larger number of TGFs now available from RHESSI, we undertake here a comprehensive study of the association between TGFs and sferics using VLF data collected at Palmer Station, Antarctica and other sites ( e.g., in Alaska and the continental United States). Results indicate that by far the majority of observed TGFs are associated with an ELF/VLF radio atmospheric observed at Palmer Station, within $?1.5$ ms of the expected time (when the sferic and the TGF propagation times are accounted for) and directionally determined to be arriving from an azimuth that is within
let me try to give another analogy to make the point. think about striking a match, if all conditions are proper , one knows that to strike a match, you must go a minimum speed- you cannot strike the match too slowly- this is understood as more speed is more friction and thus more activation energy nessesary to create combustion of the match material. the same applies to this fusion system, first, imagine my system as inside a pressurized water reactor used in fission plants- the moderator is already heavy water- we shall use it as the fuel. i have said the plasma arc looks exactly like our friend the electric lightning bolt- but i talk about in my pdf file- that the so called lightning bolt must be understood in regards to high voltage and frequency- just like the minimum speed needed for the match- so it is with the combination on high voltage and frequency to not only resonate with the dielectric molecule of heavy water- but more so- to create a minimum velocity upon charged particles in the fuel water. this velocity is also exhibiting itself as a magnetic field-think of the cathode ray scope- in a snap shot instant in time for analysis, look at when the maximun energy is being applied on a per strike basis of the input cycle- or shall we say the highest amplitude of the ac signal. if for example- an input energy of one megawattt was injected into the strike of the arc- a magnetic pinch shall be directed upon the charged particles in transit of the discharge- in a thermodynamic extraction process such as this - we need at least 5 times more energy out of the system to recoup our initial energy input- and a surplus for commercial energy supply- thus- via fusion of hydrogen to helium- with each strike- a minimum voltage and frequency SHALL give the minimum activation energy required for magnetic pinching and fusion of the isotopes of hydrogen. to increase the q of the reaction in this system- a magnetic toroid may be used around the plasma arc for increased efficiency= such as used in tokamak devices. i hope this analogy helps those who question this system- THANK YOU--WWW.NOBLEFUSE.COM
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3741.0;attach=15264
Hello gaby de wilde,
In as much as noblefuse posted this point:
- i will not write again- as i see it is more important to make another video and explain further- i do not like typing- and many things are taken out of context- as you all know-
however- if you are sincere- find me at my website of noblefuse
and also given they were the ones that started this thread I assumed they weren't going to add anything further.
How is that delusional?I might add most thinking people know how to find what others have posted. I don't really need the plug but thanks.
Bessler007
mib HQ
This is a valid question and I am interested in an answer. It's also not an easy question to answer reasonably from my perspective. The fact is there is no material fact Bessler had a working wheel in as much as we don't know how it worked. There is Wagner's example of a similar contraption that was wound up.
The nature of the question is to shake loose those that would attempt to hijack credit from anyone presently working on gravity wheels that might solve the problem. If the vague clues of Bessler were of any merit I'd think they would have led those looking to the answer by now. That hasn't happened.
This is a bit of a derail but you are the one attempting to make a point.
I clearly am interested in opinions that would change my mind. If I weren't I wouldn't waste the time to ask.Bessler007
mib HQ
Quote from: gaby de wilde on January 23, 2008, 07:15:46 PM
. . .
Your websites says: " What is the most compelling evidence Bessler wasn't either a fraud or deluded?" So you are CLEARLY not looking for the truth.. . .
Quote from: mramos on January 23, 2008, 08:30:04 PM
I like all the refs to Tesla, Einstein. And God, etc. Dang, that will be hard to live up to just based on what I have read about all ov them.
Sounds like a sales pitch to me.
Oh but it is a sales pitch.
You may now explain why exploitation should be preserved for the filthy rich.
Microsoft = good
Exxon Mobile = good
lone invention = eviol!!!
That's how your brain works? Must hate speech now! Cant resist the urge!!!?
WTF? I have no understanding for it.
@BSer007
Hello Mr disinformation! Why you are delusional you want to know?
You are acting retarded in the context of this man's life. You are expecting this guy to give up on something he worked at for years. Now if that isn't delusional in your small book then you will never know.
You indeed made him give up on posting here.
You seem fucking proud of it. But I think it's pathetic, you should give up now. Nothing indicates the topic starter is interested in anything you spew at him.
a quote from you:
QuoteThe one thing I'm very skeptical about is your ability to find your arse with two hands, a map and a compass.
What obvious disinformation newb.
@gdw
Good call on @BSer007. Add that to what he just spewed out to Erfinder on The Tesla Project thread, which is totally unacceptable, and I would agree this guy is scheduled to be shifted out of here at warp 10. He only spews craps, asks big shot questions and never gives his own answers as if we owe the shmuck. I SAY GET HIM OFF THE BOARD.
wattsup
mib Terminator
Quote from: wattsup on January 24, 2008, 08:01:56 AM
@gdw
Good call on @BSer007. Add that to what he just spewed out to Erfinder on The Tesla Project thread, which is totally unacceptable, and I would agree this guy is scheduled to be shifted out of here at warp 10. He only spews craps, asks big shot questions and never gives his own answers as if we owe the shmuck. I SAY GET HIM OFF THE BOARD.
wattsup
mib Terminator
Whattsup
You got my vote on that
gary
Quote from: wattsup on January 24, 2008, 08:01:56 AM
@gdw
Good call on @BSer007. Add that to what he just spewed out to Erfinder on The Tesla Project thread, which is totally unacceptable, and I would agree this guy is scheduled to be shifted out of here at warp 10. He only spews craps, asks big shot questions and never gives his own answers as if we owe the shmuck. I SAY GET HIM OFF THE BOARD.
wattsup
mib Terminator
I do more looking and listening here and not much posting but I must say I totally agree with gdw on this also... >:(
- You are acting retarded in the context of this man's life. You are expecting this guy to give up on something he worked at for years. Now if that isn't delusional in your small book then you will never know.
You indeed made him give up on posting here.
Next you'll be blaming me for global warming. What is retarded is to attack with sweeping generalization avoiding any specific point. I understand that tactic. That permits you the retarded tactic of attack on multiple fronts with very little substance.
Most likely any look at the vague ambiguous Over Unity or Free Energy is handled in the same manner. A very diffused attempt so you can claim you're making an effort.
I have no expectations of noblefuse except for him to keep his word. People are their own responsibility.
Bessler007
mib HQ
If any want to address any specific point I've made I'll discuss it. If you want to hide behind a lame attack of a sweeping generalization you can kiss my arse.
Bessler007
mib HQ
This is an excellent example of your lame reasoning. First it frames a very weak point for the one you're attacking. It was never their point but you'd like to make it and call them to defend it. Very stupid.
Yet then when you look at the point of asking someone to defend the corporate world I have to ask do you use oil? Microsoft? You want to attack the nebulous corporate world but you want to exclude any support you've given to it.
It's a lame tactic but it points to your desire to escape any responsibility. Well if that's how your brain works I think you need to dislodge it from your hind quarters and get a little oxygen to it.
If similar straw men are your lab assistants you need to start wishing for a brain.
Bessler007
mib HQ
Quote from: gaby de wilde on January 24, 2008, 07:47:37 AM
Oh but it is a sales pitch.
You may now explain why exploitation should be preserved for the filthy rich.Microsoft = good
Exxon Mobile = good
lone invention = eviol!!!
That's how your brain works? Must hate speech now! Cant resist the urge!!!?
WTF? I have no understanding for it.
You need to start addressing the points and stop making lame points for other people.
Quote from: wattsup on January 24, 2008, 08:01:56 AMHe only spews craps, asks big shot questions and never gives his own answers as if we owe the shmuck. I SAY GET HIM OFF THE BOARD.
We do have to give him the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps he is really looking for something that works. If that's the case at least he writes what he thinks. I don't want to silence anyone. I'm just sick from reading posts like his. Perhaps he doesn't know what effect his words have on his subjects. I believe this is why the skeptical forum exists? That even does good work where it is? The rest of the forums should be occupied with collecting evidence IMHO. I imagine a forum full of information not a forum full of people complaining about the lack of it.
Quote from: Bessler007 on January 24, 2008, 01:12:28 PMThis is an excellent example of your lame reasoning. First it frames a very weak point for the one you're attacking. It was never their point but you'd like to make it and call them to defend it. Very stupid.
Sure, I accept your apology.
ha-ha-ha
Quote from: gaby de wilde on January 24, 2008, 01:54:36 PM... Perhaps he is really looking for something that works.
Here's the perfect switch for your device (see pic) - "It's only offensive when he's turned on!"
- Schpankme
I am absolutely discussed at what OU.com has become!
Hello watt soup,
Could you kindly explain your reason for objecting to any specific "spewed crap" in view of this piece of hypocritical crap you've just "spewed"?
I do understand questioning your hypocrisy might be seen as "
a big shot question" and that "you don't owe me (schmuck? lol) any explanation. My big shot question is "
why are you such a hypocrite?"
I might offer an answer.
You assume you have the right to be what you object in others. You think you have more rights than those you attack.. Walk on, dude. Don't get too much of that water behind your ears.
Bessler007
Cmdr, Black Helicopter Squadron
mib HQ
Quote from: wattsup on January 24, 2008, 08:01:56 AM
Good call on @BSer007. Add that to what he just spewed out to Erfinder on The Tesla Project thread, which is totally unacceptable, and I would agree this guy is scheduled to be shifted out of here at warp 10. He only spews craps,
asks big shot questions and never gives his own answers as if we owe the shmuck. I SAY GET HIM OFF THE BOARD.
wattsup
mib Terminator
Noblefuse,
One of my first posts I jumped to a conclusion which was very unscientific of me, I'm sorry for that and what I said.
As you can see from subsequent posts by others, the frustration that rises in me from this forum.
You have obviously spent a lot of time on this subject and are serious about what you are doing.
If you are still reading, there are some questions that need answering.
First of all, how did you measure overunity?
Second, does the spacing of the electrodes affect the output?
Thirdly, what is the output? Excess heat, gamma radiation, H+O ?
I have looked through your PDF several times now, but it seems somewhat hypothetical to me, I work with
real machines so can understand the experiment much better than the theory on how it works.
I am in a real position to replicate this if what you say makes more sense.
Regards
GS
To others,
It's a shame that 5 pages of this topic is probably only really 1 because of all the personal garbage that people post.
It's a shame this forum doesn't have more rules such as no double (triple) posting and no off the topic remarks.
It's a shame a whole heap of banning doesn't occur for rule breakers.
Never thought I'd be the one to say that, but it really works well for other forums, and it makes people civil and focused.
just my 2c
GS
I just don't see what is so vulnerable about investors.
Investment banking is a well known and well established kind of usury
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/usury
Perhaps it's more funny reading it in the Catholic Encyclopedia
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15235c.htm
QuoteIn the article INTEREST we have reserved the question of the lawfulness of taking interest on money lent; we have here to consider first, usury as condemned by all honest men.
Plato (Laws, v. 742) and Aristotle (Politics, I, x,xi) considered interest as contrary to the nature of things;
Aristophanes expressed his disapproval of it, in the "Clouds" (1283 sqq.);
Cato condemned it (see Cicero, "De officiis, II, xxv), comparing it to homicide, as also did Seneca (De beneficiis, VII, x) and Plutarch in his treatise against incurring debts.
So much for Greek and Roman writers, who, it is true, knew little of economic science.
Aristotle disapproved of the money trader's profit; and the ruinous rates at which money was lent explain his severity. On the other hand, the Roman and Greek laws while considering the mutuum, or loan for consumption, as a contract gratuitous in principle, allowed a clause, stipulating for the payment of interest, to be added to the bond.
The Law of the Twelve Tables allowed only unciarium fenus, probably one-twelfth of the capital, or 8.33 per cent. A plebiscitum, lex Ganucia, 412 a.u.c. went so far as to forbid all interest whatever, but, at a later period, the Roman law allowed interest at 1 per cent monthly, or 12 per cent per annum.
Justinian laid down as a general rule that this maximum should be reduced by half (L. 26, I, c. De usuris, IV, 32).
Chaldea allowed interest on loans (cf. Law of Hammurabi, 48 sqq.).
No absolute prohibition can be found in the Old Testament; at most, Exod., xxii, 25, and Deut., xxiii, 19, 20, forbid the taking of interest by one Jew from another.
In the Christian era, the New Testament is silent on the subject; the passage in St. Luke (vi, 34, 35), which some persons interpret as a condemnation of interest, is only an exhortation to general and disinterested benevolence.
A certain number of authors, among them Benedict XIV (De synodo diocesana, X., iv, n. 6), believed in the existence of a Patristic tradition which regarded the prohibitory passages of Holy Scripture as of universal application.
Examination of the texts, however, leads us to the following conclusions: Until the fourth century all that can be inferred from the Fathers and ecclesiastical writers is that it is contrary to mercy and humanity to demand interest from a poor and needy man.
amen ;D
Quote from: gaby de wilde on January 24, 2008, 10:04:56 PM
I just don't see what is so vulnerable about investors ... Catholic Encyclopedia
Forgery, in legal and moral sense, is the utterance or publication, with intent to deceive or defraud, or to gain some advantage, of a false document, put out by one person in the name of and as the genuine work of another, who did not execute it, or the subsequent alteration of a genuine document by one who did not execute the original. This species of falsification extends alike to all classes of writings, promissory notes, the coin or currency of the realm, to any legal or private document, or to a book. All are counterfeit or forged if not authentic and untampered.
A definition by a high ecclesiastical authority may appropriately be cited, as it thoroughly defines the chronic clerical crime. The Catholic Encyclopedia thus defines the crime:
"Forgery (Lat. falsum) differs very slightly from fraud. It consists in the deliberate untruthfulness of an assertion, or in the deceitful presentation of an object, and is based on an intention to deceive and to injure while using the externals of honesty. Forgery is truly a falsehood and is a fraud, but it is something more. ... A category consists in making use of such forgery and is equivalent to forgery proper."
Lo, the poor untutored mind, saw his god in clouds and heard him in the wind. Ages before him, the Dawn-man saw his shadow in the sun, his reflection in the water, and crudely thought that he had a sort of shadowy double, which accompanied him and at times showed itself visible to him. At night, when the Dawn-man, gorged with raw and often putrid flesh, in a nightmare dream saw terrible monsters assailing him, or in more normal sleep wandered forth and visited distant scenes of his previous roamings, or saw, as in the flesh living and acting before his eyes, his dead father or friend, thus he got further immature notions of a double, or detachable spirit of man, dwelling within him, which could leave the body and return at will, or which survived the death of the body and lived on in spirit form and could revisit the old habitation and hold converse with, do good or harm to, the frightened living. Thus came the belief in the existence and survival after death of this double or spirit-ghost, thus the notion of the immortality of the soul, it primitive belief held by every people of antiquity, and surviving yet by inheritance among the priest-taught of modern times.
- Schpankme
He is look for investors, that could be questioned here. But it seems to me it is clear he wants people to invest in research. You never quite know what the results of the research will be.
So to me if one guy thinks he can summon a dragon and another guy thinks it's a good idea to invest money in that..... then they do not need you or me to stalk them the rest of their lives over their own money. It's non of my business what other people spend their money on. They should give it all to me. That would be the best choice. More often then not investors want and get to own the whole show. this you want me to feel sorry for?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_billionaires_(2007) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_billionaires_(2007))
We better not risk inventing free energy now. Stop all free energy investments today. Eh, I mean scams!! Stop the scams!! hahaha yeah sure, I buy into that.....
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[/sup]Quote from: Goldsphere on January 24, 2008, 05:40:19 PM
Noblefuse,
One of my first posts I jumped to a conclusion which was very unscientific of me, I'm sorry for that and what I said.
As you can see from subsequent posts by others, the frustration that rises in me from this forum.
You have obviously spent a lot of time on this subject and are serious about what you are doing.
If you are still reading, there are some questions that need answering.
First of all, how did you measure overunity?
Second, does the spacing of the electrodes affect the output?
Thirdly, what is the output? Excess heat, gamma radiation, H+O ?
I have looked through your PDF several times now, but it seems somewhat hypothetical to me, I work with
real machines so can understand the experiment much better than the theory on how it works.
I am in a real position to replicate this if what you say makes more sense.
Regards
GS
To others,
It's a shame that 5 pages of this topic is probably only really 1 because of all the personal garbage that people post.
It's a shame this forum doesn't have more rules such as no double (triple) posting and no off the topic remarks.
It's a shame a whole heap of banning doesn't occur for rule breakers.
Never thought I'd be the one to say that, but it really works well for other forums, and it makes people civil and focused.
just my 2c
GS
very well said!!!
but they keep ignoring it...
they are not interested in OU just in politics around it!!!
hello gentlemen, i made the video i mentioned- its all i got left as a one man show- may we all come together and prove me right - it is the energy crisis.
god bless
solomon sami azar
http://noblefuse.com/samazar.htm
Quote from: noblefuse on February 14, 2008, 05:09:27 PM
hello gentlemen, i made the video i mentioned- its all i got left as a one man show- may we all come together and prove me right - it is the energy crisis.
god bless
solomon sami azar
http://noblefuse.com/samazar.htm
No offense, but do you have the slightest idea about what it takes for plasma fusion?!!!
A bare idea about employing a huge Tesla coil and couple of mobilizing speeches won?t do it.
Here are a couple of easy links to make myself clear:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1518007279479871760&q=Google+tech+talks+lerner&pr=goog-sl
http://focusfusion.org/log/index.php
Cheers,
Tinu
These two different and district technologies can not be compared.
Noblefuse's system is based on magnetic resonance cold fusion reaction not plasma, the plasma electric field is only a carrier and means of high resonate magnetic field production.
Eric Lerner's system is based on highly compressed concentrated plasmoid fusion.
Then there are the hot fusion guys trying to build lasers to produce the billions of degrees it takes to fuse.
They say none of this below temp stuff can be done. No one knows who is right until they open there minds to do the experiments.
To everyone following the way of Dogma
I do not see Noblefuse as a con or fraud as he is asking you for nothing, no money, nothing only that someone replicate what he has stumbled on that has the means to build this thing. You should all be happy that he is sharing his findings and asking others to replicate as appose to hiding his findings.You people bitch no matter what someone seems to find ,share,hide or just talk about in general. You bitch about your dogma and compare this guys works to that guys works making judgments on who is right and who is wrong. Though you have no projects of any kind having to do with such bitch on your bench. Go build something so you can be flamed on how it cant possibly work! All of you go build something and be part of the solution not the problem.
Just build it, it will teach you
IronHead
When I have developed my over unity device, I will then begin construction on a death ray for it to power. Once the death ray is complete, I will use it to destroy most of human kind, ending wars, pollution, poverty, and hunger.
So who wants some cookies?
Quote from: Charlie_V on February 14, 2008, 09:50:02 PM
When I have developed my over unity device, I will then begin construction on a death ray for it to power. Once the death ray is complete, I will use it to destroy most of human kind, ending wars, pollution, poverty, and hunger.
So, you've reach enlightenment?
I was not referring to the technology involved but to the phenomenology.
The treatment in pdf given at http://noblefuse.com/nfg6.pdf contains some new ideas which are welcome and may have merits (although I prefer not to comment on them at this time) but unfortunately when speaking about its applicability on power generation it falls short from the very beginning because it is done in a very simplistic (I?m in favor of simplicity, where possible, but this is unrealistic) approach. It would be too much to write on it but, just as a start, one can see that plasma is considered collisionless, which is not the case. Thus, equation 4 and subsequent rationale can not be applied. Instead, collision frequency (and mean free path etc.) should be considered but apparently this approach was totally disregarded/ignored.
There are a myriad of other phenomena that are also not even considered. Plasma is notoriously difficult to be modeled. For anyone interested, some good fundamentals can be found at http://www.plasmaphysics.org.uk/ that will make my point clear in case it wasn?t enough.
Skipping the core of the nfg6.pdf paper for now on the above grounds, let?s get to the end of it where one finds out that a ?machine with following characteristics? will be needed:
Voltage: 256 million volts
Frequency: 1.420 GHz
Neither one of the two parameters is properly deduced (the characteristics are given more like guesstimates) nor the machine is well defined (i.e. at what power?! frequency stability etc. etc.) but let that alone, I?d doubt there is a single commercial manufacturer able to producing it as requested. (But even if it was, I expect one will have by the end mainly a very expensive x-ray machine.)
All in all, I am probably advocating for seeing some experimental evidences. I guess I?m just too tired of seeing nothing but high-hope smoke based on dogmas and/or counter-dogmas. Anyway, if the issues I raised are more dogmatic that I?ve read, I?ll leave the forum.
Cheers,
Tinu
Now that was well said and referenced. Much better then puking up a one hour video from some other set of parameters without explanation.
thank you Ironhead for your support- you have without question- identified my true motive- i have surely been beat up over these past 10 months- it is expected-yet-when you have always been sincere and honest your entire life- it is sometimes hard to continue communication-
this is a big prize- and will take many to finalize- i do not want to be arragont in my statements- it is truthful to state this is a new mode of science- i see it completely as the marriage between hot/cold fusion-
as for tinu- thank you for your statements- my writings are scattered and paint the entire picture with time and patience in conjunction with the fact that a stable arc may resonate upon heavy water- my pdf has several version- yes-drift current velocity is not equation 4- but some fraction of it- not the same as in solid conductors- nor even plasma state of todays tokamak devices-
also- the 300 million volts and 1.4ghz is provided for parameters to investigate-
i built many variations- and you will see positive results with simple setup i have made- but commercial production within a reactor- we must sweep all parameters for optimum conditions/ pressure/electrode spacing- voltage- and external magnification about plasma arc for additional pinching-
there is much to say- but i am trying desperately to have combined voices- this will only happen when someone else will do the same experiment- use your measurements- who will believe mine- my sincerest wish is we all come together and force by public pressure to have Westinghouse/ or some nuclear power company- do the same thing in a complete perfect vessel built for high energy flux already and give it a good try -i made the primitive caveman two electrode system- let us address it with enthuisiam-
gentleman- this is the possible true home for the tesla coil in regards to giving unlimited energy- the lightning bolt- water-
hello, first post on over unity
noble fuse is on the right track
if the electric model of the sun is correct, he is.
it may not be over unity but a clean source of power.
if you haven't herd of this theory about the sun look it up.
if the sun has a high positive or negative charge and space the opposite then this is possible.
high potential difference and magnetic pinch,,,,,think about it
the corona of the sun is hotter than the surface....by far
so this must me where the fusion occurs.
i dont think its due to mass alone.
thank you- i have thought of the electric discharge model myself as a means for sun fusion- or even internal earth?? these are speculations- all i know is out of a theory i derived from einsteins special theory of relativity in which i see the power to slam hydrogen together by strong discharge model and stable oscillation of an electrical source(tesla here) and hand built my own tesla coil at 1 million volts to prove my ideology- i am lucky to survive the experiments as everything i did was alone- in 11 months of only trying to relay this information i have been attacked as a scam- i never asked for money- what is disheartening at this stage is i see noone at least give me some recognition for this- even Princeton labs is stating some kind of electric arc in water just recently- as i tried to communicate with them for years- simply because i do not write in their fashion- i am ignored- i have no credentials except engineering degree- thus - i am dismissed-
i have tried to stand as a vaudeville actor and present myself in many colorful ways to attract attention to this science- yes- some of it unorthodoxed- but - it attracts more so than just science alone- i assure all as i have been trying to relay this since late 2002-
electromagnetic fusion
time will tell
one question?
did you sample the gasses produced in your tests?
did you get any helium? or just hydroxy?
also i noticed you joined oupower, but no posts yet?
what happend to noblefuse?
To be honest this is pretty interesting information indeed I hope it does indeed work as planned ...
Oddly enough I never came across this post till this moment but the more and more I read of the TPU the more and more it seemed as if we were trying
to create conditions similar to a nuclear fusion reaction oddly I say this then later in the same day I read this article hrmmm...
Anyway dont draw any conclusions from what I say as I am not trying to suggest nothing other then its quite a coincidence...
This guy has one thing going with him and that is that he is thinking on a logical basis and saying he believes it may be possible and it should be further investigated.
Hell why not give him the benifit of the doubt there is way more stupid stuff done every day wasting tons of tax payer dollars... Or personal dollars for that matter ...
A good example someone tried to drop a 1 ton bouncy ball from a plane forget the altituide about a month ago and it left a crater in the ground...
Hrmmm well you think!
Talk about a waste of money there is more scientific proof that this would be the reaction then there is that his expirament would not create fusion reaction producing tons of net energy in excess!
Keep at er noblefuse maybe you'll achive a means to do testing.
You have my support weather it fails or not the principal is not that far fetched so it is a possibility worth investigating.
-infringer-
Today I was deleted by wecansolveit.org-
the organization looking for alternative energy for america has deleted me- the man who solved the energy crisis-
why- because i say I am a messenger of god
you want your cake and eat it too- you want life exactly the way you want it and not told by another
you dont pick your messengers- they are chosen-
i had enough- i have now endured 13 months on this net being deleted by every arrogant organization run by humans and just regular folk like you who have always ignored my messages since my time upon the net-
well i am done with your stupidity-
let your oil prices go up- let your food prices go up- watch your economies crumble- see your jobs lost- get rid of all your pet animals as you cannot feed your family and pet dog as so many are giving them to the pound-
I have come openly with a solution 13 months ago only to be ignored-
now a gluttonous world playing on the internet shall all learn how primitive man is and must be civil to one another- instead of shunning someone bringing forth a solution- in the months to follow- you will learn there is no alternative fuel- panic mode will set in very soon-
when you understand clearly how important energy is- i guess your arragance will stop and just implement my scientific deeds - as for my messenger duties- it will make sense in time- all is well- but it will only get better after your destruction- i am sorry i have to say this- but it is I who has now watched you completely ignore and ridicule a man of god- as always you will learn the hard way-
time will tell
solomon azar
SOLOMAN maybe you should post your idea one more time Chet PS make it simple i will send it to a person that teaches this topic and see what he says
Hey Noble,
I am a newbie here.
As far as putting a Tesla coil in water.
Brilliant.
I had mentioned this to my brother a couple months ago when I was wondering how Stan Meyer did his thing.
I didn't read though all the posts.
But, enough to realize that you are taking some flack.
1st, I believe that you are on to something significant.
But, if you a messenger from God, it is irrelevant to bring this up.
My advice is to stick to the science, and leave the messenger stuff out.
I look forward to more info from you, + I will try to read posts in this thread.
Peace Man,
The Observer
P.S. If you are are interested, I started up a thread on Magnetic Permeability.
Which I believe to also hold some real answers to OverUnity based on Quantum Physics.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4831.new.html#new
If i solved the worlds energy crises i would think i was a god to. actually i would call that man a god if whoever did it
G'day all,
here, have a look at the guy who calls himself noblefuse
nuff said!
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=156391462
Hans von Lieven
I like the sound of your ideas, have you tried to submit them to any university's?
thought this would be of interest to you...Labofex ~ Experimental and Applied Plasma Physics ~ Press Release
Concord, Ontario, Canada, L4K 2J6
Fax: (905) 738-8427
Canadian Breakthrough in Power Generation
Nonpolluting Electrical Power from Pulsed Cold Plasmas Delivers More Power than it Consumes
Prepares for Manufacturing Development
Fully Protected by Recently granted American, British, and Israeli Patents
P.S. check your web site for virus infection, tried to look at "blog section" viruses tried to load.
Quote from: hansvonlieven on June 09, 2008, 08:11:56 PM
G'day all,
here, have a look at the guy who calls himself noblefuse
nuff said!
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=156391462
Hans von Lieven
Hans, that profile has been deleted. Can you tell us what it was about?
It could be very interesting to make a video running with the overunity device. Maybe you can build a car with an infinite energy motor.
PS I still remember your video noblefuse... the video that you're in a river with a white dress in that you say... "I have come, I am the Messiah"
Nuclear fusion releases neutrons
Care to obtain a neutron counter and verify your results?
Just one question please?
Anyone seen a clip of lightning hitting water. I have not seen evidence of fusion there.
I could be wrong but plasma looks to me like one explanation although very few know all its characteristics.
It takes one that already have the Tesla Coil for the tests because the safety factor must be set very high. Smaller test setup could include cracking a drop of water in an explosion proof box with camera to monitor the results (high speed is preferred). I could go one. Looking for fusion in a pool is looking for trouble.
His idea is not crazy, we must try everything, doubt everything learned or told, the truth is out there. But let's do it safely.
Take care,
Michel
A possible explanation of why it doesn't work in nature or in local experiments is that there is a variation of a factor that self protect the whole event.
The lightning strikes water, fusion starts and accelerate. A plasma doughnut surrounds the strike point but as it grows from the process, the magnetic bottle weakens and the process stops and starts again as long as the strike zone is targeted. Just like in a fusion reactor if the lose containment, the fusion stops but not after creating a mess in the lab.
He may be on to something and the process needs to be found, but it is a job for big research that will report nothing of value there.
Take care,
Michel
Noblefuse,
Please post links your video demonstration of this project?
SM
Quote from: nightlife on July 23, 2008, 09:43:12 AM
Hans, that profile has been deleted. Can you tell us what it was about?
@ nightlife
Have a look at page 1 of this thread, there I had posted an excerpt of his stuff, it is still there.
The noblefuse.com website is still going.
Hans
God loves a good joke ;D
Quote from: valveman on September 11, 2008, 03:30:28 PM
God loves a good joke ;D
Well my, my. Where has the time gone? And still no final presentation of completeness.
--giantkiller.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw7ry0gOlYs
Quote from: giantkiller on September 11, 2008, 06:29:03 PM
Well my, my. Where has the time gone? And still no final presentation of completeness.
--giantkiller.
seek and the scumbag shall find said the lord
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw7ry0gOlYs
It still hasn't shown anythign.
Quote from: noblefuse on December 07, 2009, 12:21:20 PM
seek and the scumbag shall find said the lord
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw7ry0gOlYs
So if cold fusion did work (I think it did) and your fusion works also. Then how does one use the low grade heat produced.
I've been thinking about it for a while now. For now I'm going to assume that you have achieved fusion. Great! Good job! Pat on the back.
This is where everything stops. Turning your low grade heat into useful work demands a technology that you don't have a grasp on yet. Your about to run into the brick wall of ignorance, again. I'm not saying it cant be done (I think it can) but I think the secret to implementing your technology requires an older technology that will make your invention pale in comparison and importance.
The question is simple, how to turn your heat into useful work. The answer is complicated, not by technique but by people, politics, god. Tell me how and I'll tell you why everybody can't have it. For every single persons sake.
Or, answer me this; How efficient is a nuclear powered submarine? I'm sure the answer is classified. How much ice are those nuke subs melting per hour sitting under the polar sheets? Are they going to stop parking at the poles? Can't they be seen from satellites if they give off to much heat? If a sub sits on the bottom of the ocean and heats all the water won't it bring the concentrated brine to the surface?
So congrats on saving the world but you can not, you should not save the world. Sorry. :'( They did what they were told, "multiply, repopulate". Problem is they did it too well and now many, many must die for their sins. What a bloody mess.
Ta ta. And remember, god damned humans! (He did to. I read it some where.)
If this is showing cold fusion where are the meassurements showing the nuclear byproducts? When you show that I will be the first one to make a duplicate to try and test it.
The streets of the industrialized world will look like the pagan voodoo land of Haiti as christian lands are now atheist scum-prepare to lose everything good you had as your weakness and devotion to Christ has failed. learn from the jews of concentration camps for the time has run out and your loved ones will suffer from your selfishness
blessed are the survivors of global nuclear war about to erupt over energy-slaughter every atheist and deviant on the earth will be natural and instinctive very soon as the children will curse all adults who have poisoned the world to such disgusting atheistic behavior- when the skin melts off your body akin to japan all will universally understand the days of your bullyism are over
solomon azar
the return of jesus and I HATE YOU for you disgust father in heaven
Where are the radioactive isotopes?
Get a simple Geiger counter and show it.
For those that have also just waded through
three pages of bitchy whiney A.
Attacking anything said non-constructively.
Only to find every link posted dead...
Here is the book in PDF form.
http://books.google.com/books/download/Lightning_Fusion.pdf?id=cnj2_TwZOKUC&output=pdf&sig=ACfU3U36PKmno5RLRFZrYVvY4adRmiKMYQ&source=gbs_v2_summary_r&cad=0
I know the whiners won't bother to read it,
but please read it for yourself before you judge.
I found it worth reading,
and saving to re-read.
OK whiners,
flame me...
What shameful attack-postures I have seen
in many many threads since I have joined,
so counterproductive, yet so un-policed.
On the other hand I applaud those few
that tried to keep it technical.
Sadly, it looked like you were ignored too.
CompuTutor,
That was a good read. I downloaded it as well. I agree with your comments on the flaming here.
with so many opposing charges... Yours-Mine-You-Me-Your-My. We ought to achieve overunity quite easily.
only in an Antimatter to Matter reaction can you get a 1:1 energy unity, nothing else can achieve this.
I am admittedly not that great at math, only to Cal 1 in college, but i think it would be vsquared=m/2dv not v=vsquared(m/2d). my math my be wrong but pretty sure that is how you convert the formula.
page 42 of the book, didn't check any of the other math, that was the one that stuck out to me.
Weather the math is right or wrong a simple test for radioactive would solve the problem.
Quote from: noblefuse on December 07, 2009, 12:20:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw7ry0gOlYs
fagtube deletes noblefuse- facebook deletes 3 yr account- myspace several times as only pagan scum can speak freely in pagan america--
Did you know homosexuals are actually a retarded people? They now hide behind atheism of science only to attack church as no such thing as no god in this universe ONLY stubborn dumb animals known as atheist homosexuals desiring to seek the shit of another mans ass- truly a retarded people in need of shock therapy. Congressional legislation soon to label all homo people as RETARDS so mankind understand the root cause of atheism and move on
AGAIN=atheists are nothing more than disgruntled homosexuals- if by small chance you are a heterosexual atheist this is simply because you were brainwashed by the homosexuals as all humans are a simple gullible monkey creature without knowledge of our infinite souls and guidance by god....Homosexuals are nothing more than abused children which made by god TO MIRROR the disgust in so called normal civilized behavior of lusting monkey people of the earth- everyone repent
The fascinating aspect of the atheists homosexual is theirscientific rational to glorify and colorfy the world of shit. Atheism is world of shit in which your head is up your ass. Homosexuality akin to pagan monkey people. both realms are retarded as many retarded people Yet the atheists homosexual may operate with humanity such as congress hair salons and such- families love retards during good times as Pets, bad times kill everything with retard merely in the way and focus of scapegoat policy by simple monkey people of weak faith behavior caused by very retarded shit lined rainbow coalition of shit-the atheists and homosexuals- one in the same made by god to mirror the disgusting pagan weak of faith community at large.repent
Though the atheist homosexual is retarded in a sexual way- very smart and artistic in another. Retards may even be drug users as their behavior is such. many levels. again for retard people. Bad time’s retards in more numbers are slaughtered over general monkey population as history always shows- evidence not invisible data. THUS, i provoke the retard until experiment verified to save your own lives as glimmer of "smartness" within you above general population of monkey savages known as human population. since I am the messiah- merely the most gifted but still a level of retard on earth but most highest to receive message as guidance not only solves energy crisis-hiv-etc but my propaganda is above general population and your retarded level. none can help as this is process on monkey planet. earth now decays from ongoing energy crisis. horror of concentration camps water boarding and daisy cutters releases niggers of every color soon in a town near YOU.
God guided separation of church and state so many ignorant self centered savages from the earth could be gathered in one dog kennel called America and try to melt together in Jesus name- very subtle and you may say entrapment as the dog learned how to obey- enough time given- submit or simply watch everything you ever loved slaughtered before your eyes- survivors grow stronger-this is how it works on earth contrary to free love hippie fagot and agnostic ways of stupidity â€"Repent
TRUTH- with the aid of illuminated device known as the net which humans proudly portray their desires CLEARLY uncovers who the atheis5ts are- a homosexual ass seeking shit swallowing scumbag now attacking righteousness in atheism. many join church to cleanse themselves only to fall from grace as the shit they love and thus they molest children for homosexuality always leads to pedophilia and bestiality- all scum behavior pirate monkey boy- REPENT
half century of media and now internet unveils the aggressive pedophiles and sexual deviants spreading diseases in this world are via the retarded atheist homosexuals slithering like a cold blooded snake in their pursuit of another mans ass- women at times spreading shit is universal for the atheist homosexual- mankind cannot grow with deviants as neighbors as each new day an opportunity for the retarded sexual deviant to sweet talk their way into shit- a scum people in need of dog shock collars for taming yet slaughter far more effective until global utopia in future where medicine and silver bullets help the wolf man barking biting shit seeking monkey known as the atheist homosexual- a retarded people
I am the messiah BEWARE.
TO end Terrorism is to first end Atheism
This will happen via the 100th monkey syndrome= I would rather declare messiah than a self declared scumbag atheists any day===half century of media and now internet unveils the aggressive pedophiles and sexual deviants spreading diseases in this world are via the retarded atheist homosexuals slithering like a cold blooded snake in their pursuit of another mans ass- women at times spreading shit is universal for the atheist homosexual- mankind cannot grow with deviants as neighbors as each new day an opportunity for the retarded sexual deviant to sweet talk their way into shit- a scum people in need of dog shock collars for taming yet slaughter far more effective until global utopia in future where medicine and silver bullets help the wolf man barking biting shit seeking monkey known as the atheist homosexual- a retarded people
humans are a gullible monkey people that may be trained like any show dog- teach it truth in gods words or nothing via atheism and it has been so past half century after war of Armageddon to show mankind the difference- Atheists by far are the most aggressive abusive entity on earth- a scum people akin to homosexuals which in reality one in the same to attack church as they are too weak to comply and would rather seek the ass of another man what a joke the planet of the apes is YET meant to be to show heterosexuals their desire for a womans ass in and domination a world of shit infidelity and sin breaking brings consequences
can a retard repent? this is the question. there is a broad range of human retardants. full blown physical and mental disabilities since birth for some, others via drug overdose car accidents and similar. In the scale towards 'normalness" it seems a borderline group of down syndrome and extreme autism may function within society. Above another level seems to be so called "deviants" of homosexuals rapists thieves godless atheists drug addicts etc. Various forms of behavior affected by societal guidance leads to retarded behavior detrimental to overall human growth as children of god with Duty to master the earth as it is in heaven. can a retard repent.
everyone . Repent
@noblefuse
With respect to your Reply #117,
WilbyInebriated was thoughtful enough---well, he wasn't really---to start a thread for this kind of stuff:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9468.msg249700#msg249700
Why don't you post this "skit" on that thread so it's out of the way of more research-oriented Members?
I'll leave it to you to translate the word "skit". ;D ??? ::) :-*
REEDIT:
With respect to your initial post on Pg. 1 of this thread:
If you want fusion, then about 6,000,000+ volts from a Tesla coil should do the trick. The kicker is: Atmospheric nitrogen is transmuted to radioactive oxygen that 3X more radioactive than radium. Maybe you want to imitate the Curies and suffer radiation poisoning?
Pg. 13 of this manuscript:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/D1.pdf
Also:
http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/history/biographies/marie_curie.htm
--Lee
Where abouts in Idaho do you live?
Quote from: giantkiller on September 11, 2008, 06:29:03 PM
Well my, my. Where has the time gone? And still no final presentation of completeness.
--giantkiller.
work in progress. maybe another takes torch burns fire bright. inquisition
Dear OverUnity.com member.
I wish you a Merry Christmas and a happy new year 2011.
THANK YOU
SASUS CHRIST
world decays from energy as the image of god-the dog in human form continues to bark and bite at the hand that feeds it. Time will tell after the skin melts off most human dogs in the battle for global stability and the survivors find the boys who cry wolf. repent in Jesus name. lets see what 2012 brings
Quote from: noblefuse on July 28, 2010, 03:17:44 PM
fagtube deletes noblefuse- facebook deletes 3 yr account- myspace several times as only pagan scum can speak freely in pagan america--
everyone . Repent
You have a consistent pattern of getting banned everywhere you go. Did it ever occur to you that YOU might be the problem?
Based on your previous posts I can see someone with a christ complex, delusions of grandeur and inability to produce any significant findings of fact. What is your technical background again?
To participate in developing advanced technologies I highly recommend letting go of the ego. The ego will get you nowhere and hinder progress.( If you already know everything then why continue to seek the truth?) This way of thinking will eventually lead to stagnation. Your site and ideas have been online for many years with no real progress, ever wonder why?
Religion or no religion, insulting the folks that determine viability of your project and theories reinforces the image of a crackpot. What do you expect to achieve by attacking others that don't follow your personal philosophy? Your religious views are of no concern. It is OK if you want to attribute inspiration to an invisible homicidal all powerful being. However, science is rigorous and demands falsifiability. Gathered data about the device is more important than opinion for getting at the truth of the matter. If you can't meet a basic scientific standard you might as well tell everyone it runs on pixie dust.
merry christmas :) ;) 8)
Quote from: noblefuse on December 13, 2013, 07:18:08 PM
merry christmas :) ;) 8)
@noblefuse
Is that you, on the Matterhorn, with you next to a local variety of wild goat? I haven't followed this thread or your postings up til now, but complaints about your insults and your religious views tend to 'get my goat, some.
Are you going to condemn me for being an
Asperger sufferer, trans-sexual, given that your God created me?
Isaiah 45:7
--Lee
Quote from: noblefuse on December 07, 2009, 12:20:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw7ry0gOlYs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw7ry0gOlYs)
@all
This video won't run because the YouTube account associated with it was terminated. Maybe noblefuse has another in mind to replace it?
--Lee