Better yet, how did he manage to last without relying on the traditional bribe money the rest of the political whores get by on ?
Is he just being kept around for 'show'...to make it appear politicians have actual integrity...as opposed by the faux honesty displayed for the consumption of people barely paying attention ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfIkay4PMhw&feature=player_embedded
Regards...
Looks like your knowledge is far too limited and that is why you have to slander a good man.
Have a look at this and enjoy your steak
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8738.msg226602#msg226602
it's so nice that our politicians are so well off that they can be picky about what, when and where they choose to eat while others starve. that's all fine and dandy with me but when they start getting the idea that they have a right to tell me what i can or can't put in my own body... that's about the time i start telling them to sod off.
why is there always some vegan or religious nut trying to save us from ourselves?
Quote from: MasterPlaster on February 04, 2010, 02:24:39 PM
Looks like your knowledge is far too limited and that is why you have to slander a good man.
Have a look at this and enjoy your steak
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8738.msg226602#msg226602
I'm afraid it may be your comprehension that is limited.
I thought my post was pretty clear.
If you check out 'The Video That Changed my Diet' in this forum, the date will reveal that I am roughly 7 months into a 'zero animal product diet'.
Judging by how I feel, I wish I'd watched that video years ago.
Regards...
Quotewhy is there always some vegan or religious nut trying to save us from ourselves?
What do you mean "US"?
Your pedantic style of hubris is catching. When is the last time someone tried to save you from yourself, wilby?
(insert crickets chirping here)
Personally, I have yet to see a demigod save him from himself, for all such fractured individuals have fools for servants....and bigger fools for masters.
Blessings in Christ Yeshua
Quote from: TechStuf on February 04, 2010, 07:01:45 PM
What do you mean "US"?
Your pedantic style of hubris is catching. When is the last time someone tried to save you from yourself, wilby?
(insert crickets chirping here)
Personally, I have yet to see a demigod save him from himself, for all such fractured individuals have fools for servants....and bigger fools for masters.
Blessings in Christ Yeshua
us, as in those of us who don't adhere to your beliefs, customs or eating preferences.
pedantic? i hardly think pedantic would be descriptive of my 'style'... the last time someone tried to save me from myself... lets see, how about fire safe cigarettes? or the last time i attended church services, or... ad infinitum, ad nauseam.
(insert more crickets here)
personally i have yet to see a demigod, much less a bona fide god... i have no master but myself. bow down before the one you serve if you wish, may your chains rest lightly.
blessings of apollo be upon you. ::)
I defend your right to be a veg head.Now since you have no use for it could you pass me the A1.
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on February 04, 2010, 02:52:29 PM
it's so nice that our politicians are so well off that they can be picky about what, when and where they choose to eat while others starve. that's all fine and dandy with me but when they start getting the idea that they have a right to tell me what i can or can't put in my own body... that's about the time i start telling them to sod off.
why is there always some vegan or religious nut trying to save us from ourselves?
It's unusual you mention this, though it is relevant.
It's the same book that inspires them to do these things, ..yet, it also mentions that what we put in our bodies, our moth, to consume, is made pure by our bodies.. etc.
Perhaps someone else knows the verse?
Once you become an inediate or a breatharian you will be over all of these problems with food, food-health, diet etc.
More info:
http://inedia.info
http://niejedzenie.info/english/text/lswf.pdf
Alot of men of integrity A the system. Liars hate to lose at their own game. These animals get very frustrated and confused. A frustrated and confused animal is always a danger. Even though the animal walks upright. I believe it has something to do with testostorone levels. Not alot of cow testostorone in vegetables. Keep eating that meat. Of try not eating it for a month or two and then go and eat it. You may be suprised that eating dead meat isnt all it is cracked up to be.
I played football back in the day. Breakfast before the game. Big 1/2 cooked steak and a chicken menustration. Then the coaches would distribute some giant pills. By the time you got to the sideline you were so fuckedup you had a hard time even concentrating on what the quarterback was calling for on the next play. Imagine a soldiers diet.
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To address an earlier point raised:
I am not the 'moderator of the truth' on this forum.
I was however appointed 'moderator' of this forum to save Stefan from having to deal with an overwhelming amount of misconduct.
Due to the paradigm changing nature of the material which I post, a very negative vocal response is often received.
No one who is able to express themselves with respect toward other members has ever been censored or deleted.
All honest opinions are welcomed.
Back on topic somewhat...since my diet change, residual acne carried over from puberty has ceased entirely.
The message got through to me once it was pointed out that if we were meant to digest flesh, the human body would have been equipped with the ripping teeth required for tearing apart raw meat.
Otherwise all animals would self cook upon death.
*passes the A1 to Doug*
Regards...
Thank you for passing the A1. Humans are not meant to ingest a lot of things. Nor breath half the crap we willingly inhale nor wear clothing. If we were not so crafty as to develop tools to help us go about our daily lives we would have evolved differently and would have those nasty K9 teeth and fur covered bodies and still live in caves.
Which is better? I reserve the right to not know with out reaching the conclusion of the test. Humans live longer then they did when they first appeared even if they do behave much differently. I am hopeful the mentality will catch up to the physical longevity. Got any butter over there for the mashed potatoes?
I'm still in mourning over the loss of my gravy and butter.
*hands Doug the butter and favorite gravy boat*
Regards...
If meat tastes so good why does it taste better with A1. Beacause A1 is derrived from spices and herbs and masks the taste of the carcass you are about to injest. I am sure with enough addition of tast enhancers dried bovine excrement would take on a distinctive flavor that some would enjoy. I know some find comfort in listening and believing bullshit so maybe they would enjoy eating it too. Then way down at the end of the meat rack they have the entrails. One ethnic group or another takes great pride in their special dishes which is usually what other species leave behind for the microrganisms to injest or the vultures. Like I have said before man is not the sharpest tool in the shed but promoting ignorance should be an activity no longer engaged in.
I always find it interesting how closely people guard their diets, as if someone had insulted their mother, lol, food is personal I guess.
I spend a pretty good deal of time thinking about this subject, as my fiance has worked for PETA and is a Vegan, while am not, but am heading in a similar direction.
I love rats. I have 4 of them right now, and they are damn interesting. Every night I have to wake up at least once because they have worked together to solve the problem of escape. Their eating abilities also match our own in terms of wide variety of food they can digest. It was proposed to me in two different places, that it is possible that the intelligence rats and humans enjoy is a product of their versatility, and need. For example, rats like humans can be found on every habitable continent. They can eat almost any organic matter. They must have a large memory to remember the things they cannot eat or that made them sick since they have no strict diet etc.
The rat digestive track is very similar to our own. They have only 4 teeth, which seem neither purpose built for ripping flesh, or for masticating organic material. They spend most of their time foraging, but will kill smaller rodents, and eat flesh when it comes along.
If we had spent our time evolving around plants, we would spend 90 percent of our time looking for continual feeding plots and the rest sleeping.
If we had spent our time evolving around flesh, we would sleep 90 percent of the time, and spend the rest in the super consuming task of hunting.
Lucky for us we have many options. I think a smart individual would notice that almost all of his dietary needs can be taken care of without flesh, let alone flesh processed in the worst industry ever created. In times of need, a bit of animal protein can go along way, last and take a while to digest. If you want to eat meet regularly, I would suggest one meal a day with 8oz or less.
Meet has become a diet staple but it has not always been like that. 3 meals a day do no need meet. The human digestive tract is versatile, we should eat versatile diets.
Morally speaking, I don't think I could bring myself to eat meet that was not killed locally. I am a packaging engineer, have worked in food processing, meet packing, and you don't want that in your body, not unless it came from a real farm and was butchered by a real person.
After seeing what you see in order to keep it quiet from the public, suddenly one has very different
motivations for not eating meet.
Most peoples comfort defending the subject of eating meet comes from their blinders that keep them from seeing the whole meet infrastructure. It is an abomination on life. If you kill your meal yourself, good for you, if you buy from the store, you have no idea what you are buying.
This is an interesting video, hard to watch, so I'm sure most wont.
But this is where your food and clothes come from, 90 percent of the time.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6361872964130308142#
Most peoples comfort defending the subject of eating meet comes from their blinders that keep them from seeing the whole meet infrastructure. It is an abomination on life. If you kill your meal yourself, good for you, if you buy from the store, you have no idea what you are buying.
You folks have really gotten off topic, lol.
I got myself neutered so I guess Im good to go. Where do we draw the line as far as being a speciest. Should we protect bacteria's rights to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Should we protect the rights of a corn plant or cockroaches right to life. We are the species that ate from the tree of knowlege. Fuck God he got recycled a long time ago. I do see the little game he had going though. Dna manipulation so God and his brown nose angels can sit back in some kind of fucked up coliseium to watch the games. We got thown out of the Garden of Eden after the serpent needed some companionship in this species competition game arranged by a real saddistic bunch of assholes. You got this childish spoiled kid playing dna doctor with himself (masterbating) and some of his products recognise the boss for what he truly is and that is a spoiled brat who plays with his toys and abandons them after he gets bored. So he moves on to a new toy. He likes to make everything compete in his coliseium cause he likes to watch things kill other things and awards the winners with advancement to another game. Of course there will be no champion because this selfcentered prick has already deemed himself master of all. It was fine as long as man was just wandering around naked and dumb as a stump but when the snake came in there (ever notice how virus's look like snakes) and let humans know exactly what game was going on and that they were toys of the Gods he felt threatend and withdrew. He was getting bored with the smart monkeys anyway. Abandoned the whole scene along with his host of brownosed dumbed down angels (some sort of creatures with the brain functions of a bird)
and off they went looking for a new circle jerk party. Before he left he didnt pickup his science project.. He left his science experiment virus viral get it. Going around fucking with dna seeing what kinda of mutant will be the result and win in the collisium game. Problem is he got folded back into the light for recycle a long time ago but his collisieum is filling up with winners that ate from the tree of knowlege but not enough to shed themselves from the animal programming he left behind.
Condemn me to hell. What a crock of shit. He is gone done not returning not omnnipresent or any of the other misconceptions perpetrated by beings of the darkness. When you mow a field does not it bleed. Thanks alot God if you still are out there you are a total piece of shit compared to a human perportaedly made in your likeness. Getting any lately or are you still hurting yourself sowing your seeds in your hand. And for any religious buffoons who abandon all responsiblity for their actions and justify it by saying it is Gods will WAKE THE FUCK UP. Find nirvana right here right now and stop bending down to a God that states "I am the true and eternal god thow shall not have false gods before me) He didnt say anything about bypassing him. Just said I'm king kiss my ass beause well I'm bigger and stronger than you and that is the way I want it to be. I may be wrong but then again I may be right. I'll take that chance that the God of the burning bush is not the ultimate power in the collective consiousness.
Quote from: sparks on February 05, 2010, 04:55:00 AM
Then the coaches would distribute some giant pills. By the time you got to the sideline you were so fuckedup you had a hard time even concentrating on what the quarterback was calling for on the next play. Imagine a soldiers diet.
and you decided it was the meat to blame and not the pills you took like a good little obedient???
how much testosterone is in a female cow? or female chicken? or female fish?
ps A1 is derived from the reproductive parts of plants... kinda sick don't you think?
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on February 05, 2010, 05:40:39 AM
The message got through to me once it was pointed out that if we were meant to digest flesh, the human body would have been equipped with the ripping teeth required for tearing apart raw meat.
we don't have teeth for ripping so we aren't meat eaters huh? what about our binocular vision for judging the distance between us and our prey? did we develop that for hunting those ever elusive and oh so hard to catch carrots?
man is a hunter... i really don't care what any of you personally choose to eat, drink, smoke or believe, nor am i offended by your choices... unless that choice is to try and tell me what i should or shouldn't be eating, drinking, smoking believing, doing, etc. ad infintum...
Quotewhat about our binocular vision for judging the distance between us and our prey? did we develop that for hunting those ever elusive and oh so hard to catch carrots?
Wow. Just wow....
Even furry bunny rabbits have binocular vision, and yes, they eat carrots.
You escapist evolutionist types are never at a loss to misappropriate an engineering feat.
Perhaps 'perpetuallyinebriated' is closer to reality.
Quote from: TechStuf on February 05, 2010, 02:05:39 PM
Wow. Just wow....
Even furry bunny rabbits have binocular vision, and yes, they eat carrots.
You escapist evolutionist types are never at a loss to misappropriate an engineering feat.
Perhaps 'perpetuallyinebriated' is closer to reality.
actually, rabbits eyes are placed high and to the sides of the skull... allowing the rabbit to see nearly 360 degrees, as well as far above their head. they have a blind spot directly in front of their face... i wonder how they get that if they have binocular vision as you claim? you are aware that for an animal to have binocular vision, the field of view of both eyes must overlap to some degree are you not? wow, just wow...
but the ad hom name calling (how christian of you, jesus would be proud i'm sure...) is expected when you have no ground to base your argument upon. something you escapist creationist types are never at a loss for...
To correct a fallacy:
The gorilla...same teeth same eyes as humans.
Yet no meat is hunted with those eyes.
The body does not lie.
Regards...
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on February 05, 2010, 02:39:00 PM
To correct a fallacy:
The gorilla...same teeth same eyes as humans.
Yet no meat is hunted with those eyes.
The body does not lie.
Regards...
a fallacy? what did i claim that was false? you are mistaken. try a cogent argument next time.
chimps... same teeth same eyes as humans.
yet chimps hunt meat...
p.s. gorillas hunt meat, just not on a regular basis like chimps and humans...
Your choice Willy. Constant control by animal instinct is your choice. First of all it is a good thing to have your eyes able to detect distance. It comes in handy when you feel the need to reach for your bottle of booze to try and manipulate your reality through the use of poisons. The giant pills were sugar pills because it is illlegal to give kids playing football steroids. Next best thing is to give them some meat filled with adrenaline the poor animal released to its blood stream in a futile attempt to escape the trauma as it was murdered. You see a high is the unnatural release of adrenaline into the system due to your body trying to get you the fuck out of whatever situation your dumb ass has got you in. The adrenaline besides giving you liquor muscles increases the adrenaline to the heart muscle so it can beat not only faster but stronger contractions. This supplies more blood flow through the liver to purge out the poison as well as carry other stored up hormones like testosterone to put you into fight or flight mode. Ever see the poor animals the new age gladiators we call contact sports smashing into each other and beating each other over the head. It is to get the adrenaline pumping. So now you got a bunch of angry animals fighting in a glorified rodeo ring and they charge you money to watch human animals have a turf fight. Oh and the cheerleader arent there for nothing. They are there to activate more animal aggression behaviours associated with what individual gets its genes into the future. At least a bullfight is more an honest approach to entertainment for those that adore the beast.
Quote from: sparks on February 05, 2010, 02:52:37 PM
Your choice Willy. Constant control by animal instinct is your choice. First of all it is a good thing to have your eyes able to detect distance. It comes in handy when you feel the need to reach for your bottle of booze to try and manipulate your reality through the use of poisons. The giant pills were sugar pills because it is illlegal to give kids playing football steroids. Next best thing is to give them some meat filled with adrenaline the poor animal released to its blood stream in a futile attempt to escape the trauma as it was murdered. You see a high is the unnatural release of adrenaline into the system due to your body trying to get you the fuck out of whatever situation your dumb ass has got you in. The adrenaline besides giving you liquor muscles increases the adrenaline to the heart muscle so it can beat not only faster but stronger contractions. This supplies more blood flow through the liver to purge out the poison as well as carry other stored up hormones like testosterone to put you into fight or flight mode. Ever see the poor animals the new age gladiators we call contact sports smashing into each other and beating each other over the head. It is to get the adrenaline pumping. So now you got a bunch of angry animals fighting in a glorified rodeo ring and they charge you money to watch human animals have a turf fight. Oh and the cheerleader arent there for nothing. They are there to activate more animal aggression behaviours associated with what individual gets its genes into the future. At least a bullfight is more an honest approach to entertainment for those that adore the beast.
i dont drink.
placebo or not, you still were a good little obedient and took your 'medicine'... and blamed the meat for making you "fuckedup"?
murder is a human on human thing, you can't murder an animal. killing animals is no different than killing plants... big deal blah blah, life feeds on life, deal with it, get over it.
my choice, your choice. yes, now you are getting it... self determination is a good thing.
you sound a little worked up sparks... too much adrenaline? testosterone? i hope it recedes soon so you can reason like a gentleman. ;)
I took the pills a couple of times and then a group of us figured out it wasnt a good thing. And just left them in the locker. Plants and vegetables put the best things they have into producing seeds. They produce an overabundance of them because they know alot will fall on fallow ground. So you dont have to kill the plant just live off the overabundance. Sure it is the plants best shot at getting its genes into the future and it will protect it with poisons so the insects wont get it but once you get past the skin it is all good. It is the most humane choice we have left to us in the beasts coliseum. You want to be a bitch and be manipulated by the animal in you go ahead its a dead end.
Quote from: sparks on February 05, 2010, 03:32:05 PM
I took the pills a couple of times and then a group of us figured out it wasnt a good thing. And just left them in the locker. Plants and vegetables put the best things they have into producing seeds. They produce an overabundance of them because they know alot will fall on fallow ground. So you dont have to kill the plant just live off the overabundance. Sure it is the plants best shot at getting its genes into the future and it will protect it with poisons so the insects wont get it but once you get past the skin it is all good. It is the most humane choice we have left to us in the beasts coliseum. You want to be a bitch and be manipulated by the animal in you go ahead its a dead end.
i thought they were sugar pills?
you don't have to kill the plant to harvest carrots? or potatoes? or etc. ad infinitum ad nauseam... please describe how you manage that. your argument is irrelevant. the 'most humane choice' you speak of is simply your opinion. we have been happily eating meat for at least two million years, and probably much longer... the common view among anthropologists is, point in fact, that increased meat consumption was a key element in the development of human culture, since getting and distributing the stuff requires cooperation. a cooperation that has allowed you to now be so comfortable you can pick and choose and bitch and whine about what you want to eat as well as what you think others should eat. i certainly won't be manipulated by the animal in you... ::)
To clear up the BS that flying here:
Chimps eat meat, and have the ripping teeth to do so.
The only "meat" eaten by gorilla's is taken from snails, grubs, and insects.
http://www.seaworld.org/animal-info/info-books/gorilla/diet.htm
http://www.seaworld.org/animal-info/info-books/gorilla/diet.htm
This means that an animals vision is not directly related to diet, anymore than 'climate change' is related to human activity.
So, lets put on our big boy pants and start telling the truth...before someone loses any more face here.
Regards...
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on February 05, 2010, 03:53:53 PM
To clear up the BS that flying here:
Chimps eat meat, and have the ripping teeth to do so.
The only "meat" eaten by gorilla's is taken from snails, grubs, and insects.
http://www.seaworld.org/animal-info/info-books/gorilla/diet.htm
http://www.seaworld.org/animal-info/info-books/gorilla/diet.htm
This means that an animals vision is not directly related to diet, anymore than 'climate change' is related to human activity.
So, lets put on our big boy pants and start telling the truth...before someone loses any more face here.
Regards...
ok big boy, put your pants on and tell us why gorillas have canine teeth... ::)
chimps are closer genetically to humans than gorillas so it's just a improvement on your flawed gorilla parallel.
then explain how snails, grubs and insects now suddenly fall into the plantae kingdom instead of the animalia kingdom... ::)
an animal's vision is DIRECTLY related to its diet, to its environment and to whether or not it is a herbivore, carnivore or omnivore.
and if humans are 'born' to be herbivores where is our enlarged cecum? why is cellulose totally indigestible to us? why are our intestines so much smaller than other herbivores? etc. ad infinitum, ad nauseam. the story is the same with our teeth... we're equipped with an all-purpose set of ivories equally suited to liver or onions.
Quote from: armagdn03 on February 05, 2010, 10:31:24 AM
I always find it interesting how closely people guard their diets, as if someone had insulted their mother, lol, food is personal I guess.
I spend a pretty good deal of time thinking about this subject, as my fiance has worked for PETA and is a Vegan, while am not, but am heading in a similar direction.
I love rats. I have 4 of them right now, and they are damn interesting. Every night I have to wake up at least once because they have worked together to solve the problem of escape. Their eating abilities also match our own in terms of wide variety of food they can digest. It was proposed to me in two different places, that it is possible that the intelligence rats and humans enjoy is a product of their versatility, and need. For example, rats like humans can be found on every habitable continent. They can eat almost any organic matter. They must have a large memory to remember the things they cannot eat or that made them sick since they have no strict diet etc.
The rat digestive track is very similar to our own. They have only 4 teeth, which seem neither purpose built for ripping flesh, or for masticating organic material. They spend most of their time foraging, but will kill smaller rodents, and eat flesh when it comes along.
If we had spent our time evolving around plants, we would spend 90 percent of our time looking for continual feeding plots and the rest sleeping.
If we had spent our time evolving around flesh, we would sleep 90 percent of the time, and spend the rest in the super consuming task of hunting.
Lucky for us we have many options. I think a smart individual would notice that almost all of his dietary needs can be taken care of without flesh, let alone flesh processed in the worst industry ever created. In times of need, a bit of animal protein can go along way, last and take a while to digest. If you want to eat meet regularly, I would suggest one meal a day with 8oz or less.
Meet has become a diet staple but it has not always been like that. 3 meals a day do no need meet. The human digestive tract is versatile, we should eat versatile diets.
Morally speaking, I don't think I could bring myself to eat meet that was not killed locally. I am a packaging engineer, have worked in food processing, meet packing, and you don't want that in your body, not unless it came from a real farm and was butchered by a real person.
After seeing what you see in order to keep it quiet from the public, suddenly one has very different
motivations for not eating meet.
Most peoples comfort defending the subject of eating meet comes from their blinders that keep them from seeing the whole meet infrastructure. It is an abomination on life. If you kill your meal yourself, good for you, if you buy from the store, you have no idea what you are buying.
This is an interesting video, hard to watch, so I'm sure most wont.
But this is where your food and clothes come from, 90 percent of the time.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6361872964130308142#
Most peoples comfort defending the subject of eating meet comes from their blinders that keep them from seeing the whole meet infrastructure. It is an abomination on life. If you kill your meal yourself, good for you, if you buy from the store, you have no idea what you are buying.
all killing is an abomination on life, be it plant or animal, viral or bacterial...
"As described by Tool in their song Disgustipated, the plight of the carrots is the holocaust of harvest time.
Imagine the horror experienced by a sentient carrot, the terrible knowledge that you and all of the others in your field will be harvested for food, and, for the least lucky of you, the atrocity known as carrot juice.
The life of a carrot is a hard one. Completely immobile, your entire existence is a strain, ever upwards toward the sun, toward light and life. But with growth comes vulnerability, first to darkness and thirst, then to weeds, then to the horrid rabbits, other rodents, and even some insects. Since you cannot move, the water which gives you life can drown you if it comes too heavily or too often. And, even then, after surviving all that, your short life is snuffed out in the end by the brute of a farmer that raised you.
Imagine the rage at a culture which idolizes and adores the fiend, Bugs Bunny. How they have reduced his senseless massacre of your brethren to a running gag, simplified it as a simple food fetish.
Imagine the realization that you have been brought into the world solely for the purpose of slaughter and consumption. Imagine the terror of knowing that every carrot in your field will meet the same awful fate, ending their existence in the shopping carts and dinner plates of the monsters which raised each and every one of you.
Imagine knowing all of this, and not being able to fight back, to cry out, to run away. It is as Tool's Angel of the Lord says to Brother Maynard: Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers.
For, tomorrow is harvest day, and to them, it is the holocaust. "
http://everything2.com/title/Plight+of+the+carrots
Once asked what form of life would I be if I could be reincarnated off the top of my head I said a bird. It was quickly pointed out that alot of people say the same thing and all the shit a bird has to deal with. Sometimes wonder if we need any of the vital food groups. Seems sugar is real tasty. Like nature is telling us hey this is what you need to get more of. Little glucose and your good to go. Bottles of ensure seem to keep the old people going and all the rest is optional.
Its said that the eyes of the potato, when located in close proximity are binocular in nature.
Hey!!!...maybe we can get potato's to hunt down and kill the carrots for us...so's we don't end up with keratin on our hands when we meet our maker...with the fear of karmic justice foremost in our minds.
*wonders if a grape wines if it dies before its time*
uh oh... look what the 'good' book has to say about such vegan 'devil' doctrines... ;)
(1 Tim 4:1-4 KJV) "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:"
i like this one better...
(Romans 14:2-3) "Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on disputable matters. One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls."
"One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. "
I believe the key word to be "everything"...those sure sound like the words of a cannibal.
Or were those the words of 'Cannibal Letcher' from the movie "Silence of the Sheeple" ?
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on February 05, 2010, 06:20:36 PM
"One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. "
I believe the key word to be "everything"...those sure sound like the words of a cannibal.
Or were those the words of 'Cannibal Letcher' from the movie "Silence of the Sheeple" ?
then you miss the point... the key words, or more specifically, phrases were: ' must not look down on him who does not' and 'must not condemn the man who does'.
they were words of paul, to the romans... i gave the source at the start of the quote.
In the end days this in the end days that . Maybe in the end days of Natural order based on a very imperfect system of species domination of other species. Maybe in the end days the dead do arise and are judged if there is any caloric value to be gained by some kind of weird dog aliens. That are getting kind of tired of eating alien cat shit. Where did I bury them bones. Oh yea I know its that third round thing from that shiny thing. Hey scooby get that monkey up here lets go check it out.
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Couldnt be Paul was reacting to what the Jewish cultists were practicing with all the Kosha food rules. Christ said that God lives within our hearts. He didnt go anywhere and isnt going to have to return. He is alive and doing well everytime an act of true love and selflessness is performed.
Paul was referring to those of little faith as those who would not accept the teachings of alot of the great teachers who have graced our Earth. The ones of little faith are references to those that dont understand and continue to practice idol worship to get their individual being into some state of nirvana while neglecting life here and now.
"then you miss the point... the key words, or more specifically, phrases were: ' must not look down on him who does not' and 'must not condemn the man who does'."
No, you're avoiding the point, by desperately offering up words which really amount to a rationalization for eating "everything".
And then attributing them to god, for validation...weak effort.
*notices slowing of futile arm waving*
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on February 05, 2010, 07:20:13 PM
"then you miss the point... the key words, or more specifically, phrases were: ' must not look down on him who does not' and 'must not condemn the man who does'."
No, you're avoiding the point, by desperately offering up words which really amount to a rationalization for eating "everything".
And then attributing them to god, for validation...weak effort.
*notices slowing of futile arm waving*
so what are you saying? i should be vegan because you are and because it is your opinion that it is somehow 'better'?
ahh the usual hyperbole... i never said eat 'everything'. i for one certainly won't be feasting upon any fecal matter with A1 anytime soon. we are omnivores, not detrivores, at least according to the the vegetarian resource group. http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/omni.htm
the god thing was facetious... that's why the little winky smiley is there.
i thought the whole point of your video was to show a politician who, given the opportunity, will push his opinions (on what to eat) on you...
" so what are you saying? i should be vegan because you are and because it is your opinion that it is somehow 'better'? "
[There are many ways to avoid owing up to one's fallacies...that was one.
And where did I say you should do anything ???
Although I will be making a suggestion in due course.]
" ahh the usual hyperbole... i never said eat 'everything'. i for one certainly won't be feasting upon any fecal matter with A1 anytime soon."
[I really don't think anybody here cares what you or anyone else eats.]
" we are omnivores, not detrivores, at least according to the the vegetarian resource group. http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/omni.htm "
[As it applies to humans, the term 'omnivore' translates into cannibals making up a name to justify a fetish for flesh.]
" the god thing was facetious... that's why the little winky smiley is there. "
[No...actually, it was yet another of the previously mentioned, to avoid owing up to one's fallacies, with some jokey hocum. ]
" i thought the whole point of your video was to show a politician who, given the opportunity, will push his opinions (on what to eat) on you..."
[Firstly...sometimes go a little 'off track' for a while before being re focused...but I don't fly into a blind adolescent rage about it, hurling obscenities at people like you do.]
And you know very well the thread wasn't about a 'pushy 'politician, we know you're more perceptive than that...as you have so adroitly demonstrated in your forensic dissections of the words and statements you incessantly kept shoving back in the faces of the many people you have hounded mercilessly here.
Initially, when you took on a few nasty trolls and destroyed them with their own contradicting statements, I silently cheered you on, and sent you a few PM's thanking you for cleaning up the 'mess'.
But then you began to turn on the good members here...with Gary/Resonanceman being your latest target.
I'm not going to bother digging up your dirt on this thread, we are all aware you are choking on your own words...else we would all be "regaled" with another of your abusive outbursts by now.
Now...here is my suggestion to you:
Drop either your abusive demeanor or your user name and make a fresh start...and would be a good idea to do some inner reflection, as to why you feel the need to belittle people for no reason other than you may be in a surly mood...which is no excuse either.]
I mean no one ant ill will...but I will not stand for abuse of any type...from anyone, anywhere.
Regards...
It is sad that I can not afford organically grown food all the time. I have stopped eating meat because the evil bastards feed GM grown food to the livestock and paultry.
I even treat vegitables in the market with suspision. Our food is being genetically modified for very sinister reasons. Go investigate it yourself.
There is nothing wrong with eating meat with appropiate thanks given.
It is said that in order to receive the maximum benefit from food, each person should 'personally grow their own food.
The most important part is just prior to planting your seeds, put them in your mouth for 9 seconds, whereupon your DNA is incorporated into the yield for nutrition that is specially customized for your body.
Regards...
Good concept but where did you get this idea from?
It was on some alternate radio interview...I can't recall the source, but the guy really impressed me with his knowledge and presence.
Regards...
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on February 06, 2010, 06:30:03 AM
" so what are you saying? i should be vegan because you are and because it is your opinion that it is somehow 'better'? "
[There are many ways to avoid owing up to one's fallacies...that was one.
And where did I say you should do anything ???
Although I will be making a suggestion in due course.]
" ahh the usual hyperbole... i never said eat 'everything'. i for one certainly won't be feasting upon any fecal matter with A1 anytime soon."
[I really don't think anybody here cares what you or anyone else eats.]
" we are omnivores, not detrivores, at least according to the the vegetarian resource group. http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/omni.htm "
[As it applies to humans, the term 'omnivore' translates into cannibals making up a name to justify a fetish for flesh.]
" the god thing was facetious... that's why the little winky smiley is there. "
[No...actually, it was yet another of the previously mentioned, to avoid owing up to one's fallacies, with some jokey hocum. ]
" i thought the whole point of your video was to show a politician who, given the opportunity, will push his opinions (on what to eat) on you..."
[Firstly...sometimes go a little 'off track' for a while before being re focused...but I don't fly into a blind adolescent rage about it, hurling obscenities at people like you do.]
And you know very well the thread wasn't about a 'pushy 'politician, we know you're more perceptive than that...as you have so adroitly demonstrated in your forensic dissections of the words and statements you incessantly kept shoving back in the faces of the many people you have hounded mercilessly here.
Initially, when you took on a few nasty trolls and destroyed them with their own contradicting statements, I silently cheered you on, and sent you a few PM's thanking you for cleaning up the 'mess'.
But then you began to turn on the good members here...with Gary/Resonanceman being your latest target.
I'm not going to bother digging up your dirt on this thread, we are all aware you are choking on your own words...else we would all be "regaled" with another of your abusive outbursts by now.
Now...here is my suggestion to you:
Drop either your abusive demeanor or your user name and make a fresh start...and would be a good idea to do some inner reflection, as to why you feel the need to belittle people for no reason other than you may be in a surly mood...which is no excuse either.]
I mean no one ant ill will...but I will not stand for abuse of any type...from anyone, anywhere.
Regards...
so what are you saying? it's a simple question...
omnivore doesn't translate to cannibal. ::)
no, the god thing was facetious, i wrote it... i'm telling you what the intent was.
no, i actually thought the thread was about a pushy politician. seriously, if it's about something else, please clarify.
*mumbles something about staring into the abyss* great, a silent fan... are you still mad because i called your aunt a transvestite? ok, that was wrong of me, i apologize.
gary voiced his opinion, and said it was something he would do, so i voiced mine, it's something i do. apparently it's something you do too by the looks of all these threads you start...
that's my soda i'm choking on, from laughing.
*files suggestion*
abusive? surely you jest. can you show where this alleged offense occured? belittled? more hyperbole, i haven't belittled anyone either, i have given some views, that i may or may not agree with, views that differ from yours
mint?
Your penchant for discord and disharmony requires no clarification.
Any intelligence you may have is tempered by your demeanor toward others.
Something which it appears your ego prevents you from realizing.
I'm not out to rub people's nose in anything...just modify your conduct, its really not that hard to do.
Regards...
I will still defend the right to have an opinion even if it is one I do not agree with.Even if it is from someone who believes they need to announce it to everyone ells.
People change their minds back and forth and even side ways sometimes depending on their personal experiences. With out any differences it would be very hard to be aware we exist at all. Without differences we would all draw the same ideas and make the same mistakes in unison. It would result in extinction. I am glad for our differences,I hope one day people who are troubled with their own existence who require forcing their views on everyone ells to feel alive find some form of peace within themselves.
For those who find excluding meat from their diet has made them feel better I am glad for you. I would personally question my health to be certain that it is not a result of a an imbalance which has made certain proteins undigestable or other condition.
If you are simply making a statement with the exclusion because of the treatment of animals. Well ,you could always open up a more human processing plant and use your humane practices as a selling point. Range fed live stock certainly has a following.Perhaps there is a market for humane kill. I don't know if there is such a thing as humane kill but that is for you come up with if you feel that strongly about it.
As for our elected officials they are not hired for their eating habits nor are they hired by honest means. They amount to very little if anything and their personal habits amount to even less.
I dont think Cap meant for this to be some kind of A meat eater debate. If the most powerful thing this guy wants to do is have some people try not eating meat for awhile and then see if they feel any better after not eating meat this guy has a shitload more integrity then most self perceived gods who would have you kneeling before them and worshipping their every fart. Bush wouldnt even had been able to understand the question. Obama would have waited for his bluetooth input from the computers running "best way to make sure you get relected as president" programs. More or less showing us the latest two are a couple of Tools. Dildos for the power gods.
Now Nestle would have had an answer right away. I would like everybody to buy chocolate manufactured by my corporation that keeps all sorts of families enslaved. The mechanics who grease my machines in Japan are an example. Rest of the plant is void of people because it is not profitable to employ people. So buy my chocloate so my dynasty will endure for many generations.
" If you are simply making a statement with the exclusion because of the treatment of animals. Well ,you could always open up a more human processing plant and use your humane practices as a selling point."
The way the animals were dealt with was always a disconnect for me...I had considered veganism many times, but the 'protein' issue was never resolved to my satisfaction.
It was only after viewing the video illustration comparing the teeth and jaws of a human, a cow, and a lion, that it became clear to me, we are not meant to be flesh eaters.
Regards...
I think the reason Man started eating meat was because of the lack of proper vegetation and maintaining the proper nutrition and strength needed in the field.
not all predators have their eyes up front, Whales, Dolphins, Octopus, Squid and lots of others are heavy predators and very successful.
the greater apes have been known to ambush deer and drag them up a tree and eat them when their regular diets are slim to none. in the wild it is not really about what you would like to eat but more about what is available to keep you from suffering from hunger pains and death.
but since food production has now domesticated us we can now eat what ever we like. now we are more like hunter gatherers of the supermarkets.
All I can say is, I'm sure glad there's no nutritional value in human dodo.
Then a 'sh!t eating grin' would have new significance.
Regards...
place a Human Vegetarian and one very large dog in an Isolation chamber for 2 months with only water drink, after about a week of starvation both you and the dog will start to look at each other in a whole new perspective.
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on February 07, 2010, 10:55:59 AM
All I can say is, I'm sure glad there's no nutritional value in human dodo.
Then a 'sh!t eating grin' would have new significance.
They are not un heard of over here. A couple of examples:
Those 2 bozo's are sh!t spreaders, not eaters...well, at least not until their war crime trials are over with.
Regards...
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on February 05, 2010, 06:03:55 PM
uh oh... look what the 'good' book has to say about such vegan 'devil' doctrines... ;)
(1 Tim 4:1-4 KJV) "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:"
i like this one better...
(Romans 14:2-3) "Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on disputable matters. One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables. The man who eats everything must not look down on him who does not, and the man who does not eat everything must not condemn the man who does, for God has accepted him. Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls."
Thought I would throw in my own quote from the good book.
"The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, said the LORD." Isaiah 65:25