Quote from: hartiberlin on June 28, 2008, 10:54:13 AM
Hi Luc and Ossi, did you remove the internal resistor from the sparkplug first before doing your experiments ?

See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reYRkG39XHw

Do you think you can still get the required input power down ?

It would be interesting to know, if also only alone with the high voltage low current discharge the water could be blown up like this maybe via a bigger charged capacitor ?

Also, why is the spark blown out ?

Or is the explosion of te water itsself blowing out the water ?

In the video with the 24 x 9 Volts batteries the spark did continue to burn when ignited, so where is the difference in this water firing ?

Luc and Ossi,
do you think the spark explosion is big enough to propell a cylinder, so a motor could be done running on this water explosion ?

Regards, Stefan.

Hi Stefan, yes internal resistor is removed, this is mentioned that it is and how to do it at the beginning of topic. That is a good video on how to do it.

I do believe some collection of the back EMF could be collected. I will be testing this later.

I do not believe that hi volts cap discharge will do this, since it would of been found by now.

It blows out yes. I think it would be the energy release.

The video I posted at my first post shows an even more impressive spark burn at 1/2" inch gap . I stopped it because the metal was starting to melt. The difference is with this circuit is the RE Plasma Flame will last only the time the HV spark is on to make the bridge for it, that is why I say if we want more power all we need to do is have the HV last longer. Are you all not getting it???

Once we do that I am sure it will make an ICE work on water.

Quote from: hartiberlin on June 28, 2008, 11:04:14 AM
He is also getting a nice flame:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs-Uk511S_I

Regards, Stefan.

This was posted here before and I think it is off topic since he is using electrolyte in his water. It is just a show.

Luc

Hello Luc and the Rest,

Thankyou Luc for your post, video, enthusiasm and willingness to share with others.

I will admit, I am not sure what is meant by radiant energy, perhaps a short explanation of it here would be appropriate.

However, when I look at the diagram created by Libra, I can't help but see an IRON CORE.
  This 'Iron Core' and what it does is the Topic of a thread I started about MAGNETIC PERMEABILITY.
     In fact, it's fair to say I am obsessed with this subject.

     http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4831.0.html

However, here is short explanation of what I am so concerned about when it comes to Magnetic Permeability.

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A Coil
         with a current
                             produces a magnetic field.
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Same Coil with a Core (Ferromagnetic, Low Coercivity)
                                                                               with the SAME Current
                                                                                                                 produces a magnetic field

                                      1000's if not 1,000,000 times greater !!
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Where does this energy come from? has definitely been a question on my mind.
Here are some answers and important points pertaining to the characteristics of Ferromagnetic Matierials.

      1. Magnetic Energy comes from the limitless energy of unpaired electrons spinning in the atoms of Ferromagnetic Materials.

      2. Without the presence of an external field, domains form that are a balance between what compasses would do when too close (on a the macro scale)
          And, ANISOTROPIC ENERGY, the Quantum Energy that makes dipoles align when they 'shouldn't'  (on the micro scale)   

          These balance out to get the maze like domains of ferromagnetic materials NOT in the presence of a Magnetic Field.
     
          Because the maze points 'any which way but loose', the external Magnetic NET TOTAL of the Domains/Atom Dipoles ADDS up to ZERO.
                                         
                                                                                                                      If you can't understand this, you won't be able to comprehend the rest.
                                     
                                                                                                              That is, a bunch of energy ADDS up to ZERO when observed from the outside.

      3. When an external magnetic field is applied, the aligned domains get bigger as a result of neighboring dipoles joining the 'happening' alignment.
          This takes little or no 'extra' energy as the ANISOTROPIC energy is very willing to help out in this matter.
 
          Then, the Sum of the domains gets to be Something

                                                                                          that can be observed on the outside.

This is where
   
                       an amplification of 5,000 or more

                                                                            is added to the coil's minuscule magnetic field.


So, I hope you can see why I think it is important to understand what is going on when introducing a core to coil in a setup.

In other words, I would bet dollars to donuts that this works because of the core.
                                                                                                                    No core, no 'radiant' energy.

Please, keep up the good work.
  Perhaps this info helps your understanding of the device you have created.

May Sun Shine on your Backdoor Someday,

                                                                 The Observer




                                                                                   


                                     

Quote from: Golden Mean on June 28, 2008, 01:13:38 PM
I feel like a bit of a dolt for asking this, but electronics is not a strong area of knowledge for me.

Could one of you Brilliant, Generous people please post a write-up of what is going on here and why this is so exciting in layman's terms? 
How is this different from a normal spark plug and why?  What advantages does this offer? Could this be easily adapted to current auto-tech?, Etc...

Additionally, since I am not an electronics person and don't have the time to learn all this to contribute to the testing of various configs, I am more than willing to offer my skills in animation, video production, web design and database development to contribute to bringing this to the masses.

Much love & peace to all.
Thanks.
Will

Hi Will, thanks for looking at this topic and speaking your truth. You have an excellent point and I do also see it the way you do. I am asking for help to do up a single page document that could be easier to understand but that can take some time. This topic is only 2 days old so it will get there with the Grace of God's will.

The idea here is to use water as a fuel for an automobile engine and limitless applications.

I do appreciate your offer in your skilled area and my hopes are up that we can get to that point. Please keep an eye on this topics first post since we will be posting the most up to date schematic and hopefully a simple documentation there.

Luc

Spark plug model number should also play into this. The higher the number, the higher the spark/heat ratio. A J19 will spark hotter then a J7.

Hi there The Observer,

Thanks for looking at this topic. The word RE think is just someting we have made up. We are all talking about the same thing just in different words or ways.
Thanks for posting the information. Hopefully one day soon we will have a common language so that we can have a conversation about this. However we are just starting to learn it over again and it will take some time

Thanks for posting.

Luc