Quote from: greendoor on July 02, 2008, 06:54:36 AM
Is it agreed that this is a lower temperature effect, being the liberating of latent heat between the liquid & vapour phases of water? 

Yep, Instant change of state with HV and capitalizing on the latent heat.

@all, I found this link to a patent for a "Plasma Arc Ignition System" designed in 1993. It describes the concept of a combined high voltage, high current system. Although this was designed for gasoline there are some parallels to the work being done here. The diagrams even suggest some spark plug designs that may work best with a plasma arc. I wonder if it's inventor ever thought to try the system with water?

Click on 'Documents' to view the 45 page pdf

http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?IA=CA1992000510&DISPLAY=DOCS

RD

If millions of Joules of energy were expended by water evaporating on the surface of the ocean or a lake on a hot sunny day; wouldn't the surface be turned into a raging firestorm.. Or at least boiling? Some things about that theory are sounding odd.

Nor am i convinced that the effect the Dr.'s Graneau describe isn't disassociation anyway: How can they be sure that the energy doesn't come from the cracking of the molecule and subsequent implosion or explosion... With the result being near-instantaneous reformation back into water vapor? The observed effects might be exactly the same as what they report.

And "spectacular effects" do translate to significant energy being expended.... You cannot have them "for free". Something moves the air violently to make the noise, something causes the elongated flames to occur.

Not saying that the theory is "wrong", but it doesn't seem to be convincing for this instance, imo.

One thing is for sure: Mainstream science has yet a lot to learn about the real properties of water.

Maybe they will be shown something from all this 

From the paper from Graneau, he mentions that a fog of water vapor can become explosive, I am thinking that this is the key in combination with the plasma arc. Thus we would need to create a mist of water then hit it with a discharge to really get the full effect. a closed chamber will be required to contain the mist and use an injector or other similar device to spray the water into the combustion chamber wouldn't you think?

The other method that comes to mind is to hit the water two or more times in quick succession, one to create the fog and the other to ignite it.

@gotoluc

You MUST get Moderator authority so you can delete the 'crapsters' else this will just be another multi-page joke that goes no-where.