I don't know much about this stuff, but I did notice one thing that no-one seemed to mention
Your capacitors in vid 5 are NOT in parallel as stated.

2 experiments you should try is 1: run the test without allowing the rotor to spin,
and 2: hook meter to motor and spin rotor by hand and measure voltage.

also your math is wrong   176+160=336 (not that it matters)

Quote from: Yucca on November 18, 2008, 04:58:40 AM
The usual losses of cap to cap charge transfer can be almost removed by switching through an LC tank, you need to switch at the zero crossing points, the method is used in switch mode PSUs:

This page gives a nice simple description of cap to cap transfers, the problems and the solutions:
http://www.smpstech.com/charge.htm

Yes, a good practical setup leads to a high-efficiency (but not OU) switching capability. Zero-cross circuits are widely acceptable when you deal with AC to DC switcher concepts. But when someone discharges a "Coulombs" charge into load, the already mentioned equation (Cap energy) is valid (there is no zero-cross circuits when discharging a DC... )

The normal losses with discharge a charged capacitor are mostly ohmic (for instance, leads/wires cannot deal with a multi-kiloamperes of theoretical Coulomb current, then there is a radiated EM pulse (dI/dt), an electrochemical (dielectric) process, heat dissipation,electromotive force stresses, U/I phase power losses, etc...)

So, a C to C discharge is certainly >95% efficient.
But not OU. OK?
The overall energy left in any of the circuit capacitors after discharging a prime capacitor through the (multiple) drains is "less" than the original, stored energy in that same cap. Perfectly CoE.
After all, the E=CV^2/2 is suggesting a non-linear, exponential  energy vs. voltage respond....
Or, in other words, a C with a half of the original Voltage holds much LESS than half of the starting energy...

I do hope you understand that CP's motor is not actually doing any (useful) work. In fact, a 3-coil PM rotor gets it's impetus only in the beginning, when the discharge starts... If one connects such "motor" to a  "uniform"/stabilized  voltage (batt) supply, it wouldn't be able to spin at all (because of the symmetry of all the forces )... The reason that rotor turns (at least for a while) is that the opposing force diminishes with time...

So, the real mechanical work showed is minuscule, in fact if the rotor is removed, the results  of the cap discharge overunity are "almost" the same...
etc..

Hi all,

This subject of splitting charge between capacitors seems to come up again and again with much confusion between voltage, charge, energy and power.

With reference to video no 5.

This is not a full reed/hall ic activated pulse motor.  The magnets receive only one pulse to spin the disc around.  The energy from just a single cap is discharged, there is just one pulse and the energy is used all in one go, most of it waisted.  Ie, as the field grows the magnets are repelled, then after that the rest of the discharge is just waisted.

When the original capacitor is split with a second one via the motor coils and then each cap discharged seperately in to the motor coils after that, then the magnets receive 3 seperate pulses to spin it round instead of one (a better use of the available energy than just discharging one cap which wiastes most the energy).

This could give rise to an apparent excess energy but it is not. It is simply a better way to use the same available energy is it not?

Regards,

D.

the problem here is there only a HAND FULL of you that know how this works....


stop trying to disprove .....it has already been PROVEN!!  TRUE

HELLO!!??

you all think my  last finished tpu dont work!!!   lol


ist

you all just thought it was harder than it was   LOL!!  you were wrong!

the facts say it is extreamly simple .....

 I was thinking more about this thread and must say I am sorry for telling you all you are wasting your time because if we could collect a majority of the energy in a room, we could store it and reuse it. It would be recycling which would make the over all energy use more efficient which would mean it would take less of a outside energy source for our energy needs.

Just don't think of it as free energy, think of it as recycling energy and stay focused on efficient ways to recycle the energy in a room because that is what has been done here and that in it's self is a need and a big benefit for us all to have the ability to do.