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The Steorn Permanent Magnet Motor Replication Project: It's FLUX time.

Started by thevorlon, October 24, 2006, 10:37:45 PM

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thevorlon

I have posted this question on the moderated section of the Steorn forum. I would appreciate it if all of you in a polite, respectful, and non-hostile way would go on the forum and ask Steorn to provide us with an answer.

Dear Steorn,

I have carefully read your patent on the Low Energy Magnet Actuator at the following URL

http://v3.espacenet.com/origdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=WO2006035419&F=0&QPN=WO2006035419

I had not read the patent previously due to the fact that your company stated it was not part of your core technology.

"Hi, the patent refered to (the low energy magnetic actuator) is not a patent on the core steorn technology."

That statement made me believe that your over-unity magnetic motor did NOT use the above device or at least it was not critical to your devices function. However, what's unique is the above device could indeed be critical for the function of a permanent magnetic motor even if you are not using it for such a purpose at the present.

Unless I am mistaken, I believe (if I am wrong please correct me and I will publically confess my mistake and apologize) you have stated that your technology that allows for your overunity magnetic motor to function does not use shielding and only uses stationary permanent magnets.

Basically, the concept I have had in my mind of how your technology functions is that you have a rotor with a wheel attached. On this wheel are some number of fixed permanent magnets. On the stator is one or more fixed permanent magnets. There are no shielding occuring or mechanical devices such as the Low Energy Magnet Actuator involved. Quite simple, the bare magnetic fields on the rotor created by permanent magnets interact with the magnetic fields on the stator created by another set of permanent magnets to gain energy when moved in one direction. Nothing else is needed.

I have gathered the above from reading the information on this site, your comments on this forum, and from statements on the internet.

However, I cannot help but be perplexed by the fact you have a patent on a Low Energy Magnet Actuator which could create an overunity magnet motor. I'm not saying you have been anything but completely and totally honest with us. Hearing you speak in various interviews you sound like a man of integrity and character. But at this point I cannot help but be perplexed by the connection between the Low Energy Magnet Actuator and your technology.

If possible, I would like for you to answer a question. Because it's critical to many of us who are trying to understand your technology, attempt replicating your technology, and sharing the news of your companies discovery with other people. The following is a very important question and I am sincerely hoping you will answer, because I am literally desperate to understand your technology due to it's EXTREME importance to the future of all our lives and the lives of every human on this planet.

Does your over-unity permanent magnet motor simply utilize permanent magnets in one or more configurations creating magnetic fields to provide for the gain in energy (without any type of shielding or mechanical device such as the Low Energy Magnet Actuator being involved) or is some type of mechanism providing shielding or switching of magnetic fields such as the L.E.M.A or other device involved?

Thank you Sean for your time. Please consider answering the above question.


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Cache,

This is an issue I want to get cleared up so we can all be like minded about how we need to go about replicating their technology and also importantly what we know about their technology. On the faq on their very website they claim that they do NOT use magnetic shielding and that the patent for the Low Energy Magnet Actuator is not related to their technology. I'm going to trust whatever response they give to my question, because honestly if they say their overunity magnet motor technology is not using shielding or the LEMA then (even if the LEMA could be used for over-unity) we must respect that and recognize it's not used in their device.

thevorlon

I'm going to check again very carefully to make sure it is not an artifact of my web browser or I'm just losing my sanity, but it appears that Steorn deleted the thread I made asking the above question. I really, really hope they did not delete it, because it was a very valid question.

Ok. It seems like it was deleted. But in another post on a seperate thread this is said.

QuoteHi Folks,

It has nothing to do with the OU technology.

Thanks,

Sean

I guess we need to just assume at this point it has nothing at all to do with their technology whatsoever. Nothing means zero so I'm going to trust Sean in that their technology has absolutely NOTHING to do with that device.

thevorlon

gyulasun,

That sounds logical to me. Basically, what I'm trying to think about in my mind is how we can configure a rotor so that at every sticky point there is enough force being produced by another arm/stator to push past them. It's all about making sure that we can generate a pattern of "pushes" at the right time so that in every cycle at the right moment there is enough force to push past the sticky points.

But for any of my ideas to work the KEY must be that more force is produced after getting past the sticky point than is taken to overcome the repulsion to get to the point a pushing force is generated.

For example.

Lets say this line represents the length of motion of a magnet traveling to a sticky point while facing resistance from it's magnetic field.

_________

The X will represent the sticky point at which the magnet stops.

________X

The Y will represent the exact point that must be reached for a propulsive force to take over.

________X Y

The elevated line will represent the

The elevated line represents the length of motion when the magnet is being repelled away.

_______X Y ------------

Ok, now let me ask a few questions.

1) Do you get more or less energy after hitting the Y point than you do getting to the Y point?

2) How much further do you have to push past X to reach the Y point for acceleration to occur? Does acceleration occur if you push a tiny, tiny bit past X or is there a significant ammount of physical space between X and Y?

3) What is the resistance curve like pushing through X until you hit the Y point? Is the ammount of resistance steady, increasing, or does it start to decrease as you get closer to Y? Is there a curve of resistance?

I have some ideas of how to get past the sticky point in my mind, but really need to solve the above before I progress any further.

thevorlon

I just noticed something. Go to this video on Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFYRuYn__Ro&mode=related&search=

Go to second number 17.

Could those be the magnets on the rotor and the stator magnet? Please tell me what you think?

Here is another video with some pictures... can you make anything out of them?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNDIWY19gqA&mode=related&search=

FredWalter

Quote from: cache on October 25, 2006, 04:48:06 AM
Hint, hint, hint

I'm not trying to rebuild the Steorn device, but for those people that are, rather than saying "hint, hint, hint", why don't you come right out, help everyone that doesn't get it, and directly explain your point?