Quote from: gravityblock on June 16, 2009, 07:34:29 PM
I agree with you.  I am not against you.  But don't forget adultery, fornication, and sexual immorality are the sins that have led us to this point.  The people who are performing these acts, are not God's people and the people who are depopulating the world with cowardly methods are not God's people either.  Narrow is the gate, and few will be able to enter.

I said, "I agreed with their philosophy, but did not agree with their methods".

We have multiplied to the point that we can no longer be fruitful without much pain and suffering.  This could be the reason why God is against the sexually immoral and for other reasons such as below.

Back in the biblical days, when there were no birth control methods, the prostitutes in the brothels would get pregnant.  After they delivered their babies, then they would throw their newborns into a pit to die.  Then they would get pregnant again and repeat the process.  They did this cause they couldn't support all of the children they were having due to their prostitution and promiscuous behaviors.

They have found many pits, such as this during our lifetimes.

Who is God's people again, the fornicators who have over populated the world or the murderers who are depopulating the world due to this behavior?  Neither

Sadly enough, God's people will be put to death during this process.  In the end, His people will be victorious.

Who are you to talk about what God wants?  You do not know what God wants or is going to do.  Only God knows that, if there even is a god, which is not clear at this point.  You do not converse with God, and if you claimed you did, I would not believe you.  So why don't you please keep your God stuff to yourself.

And please do not cite the Bible, which was written by man, not God, as any sort of evidence.

Quote from: also antlike on June 16, 2009, 11:06:22 PM
Who are you to talk about what God wants?  You do not know what God wants or is going to do.  Only God knows that, if there even is a god, which is not clear at this point.  You do not converse with God, and if you claimed you did, I would not believe you.  So why don't you please keep your God stuff to yourself.

And please do not cite the Bible, which was written by man, not God, as any sort of evidence.

Any thing that rules over you, is a god.  Weather it is women, money, food, cigarettes, alcohol, drugs, etc..  I just choose to have a different God than you, one who I believe is greater than I am, and who is creator of the heavens and earth, including all life forms in existence.  We are not that different from each other.  Something is ruling over our lives weather we like it or not.  We are just choosing different things to rule over us. 

It may not be clear to you at this moment that there is a God , but it is very clear to me without a doubt that there is a living eternal God.  There is nothing you can say or do to convince me otherwise.  Likewise, I am sure there is  nothing I can say or do to convince you of his existence.

Written by man, but inspired by God.  There are prophecies in the bible that have already been fulfilled and is being fulfilled to the very letter.  The laws and commandments that was given to us from God, is to protect us.

If you don't want protection, then you are free to step outside of God's umbrella of protection, and have your desires consume your soul.

Every person is given free choice and free will.  Do as you please, speak as you please, give your opinions.....but I will do the same.

Go ahead and believe that nothing is greater than yourself and that everything in existence just appeared from a ball of nothing that exploded. You exist, but nothing higher than you can exist. LOL

You are not hurting me with your words, but apparently my words are hurting you.  Why is that?  Maybe cause the Holy Spirit is searching the deep things of your heart?

I did not bring God into this topic to begin with, so why you attacking me?

And who are you to tell me what to keep to myself?

And yes God does converse with me as does the wicked one!  Sorry to burst your bubble, but weather you believe this or not, it really does not matter to me.

I could care less what you believe.  I also realize you could care less about my beliefs.  So, does this mean we shouldn't express our opinions and view points for the simple fact that they may not be inline with yours?  Of course not, that is very childish of you to think otherwise. 

I thank God that you and everyone else here has different ideas, opinions, and thoughts in order to allow us to learn and grow.  We all have to sift through and decide for ourselves what is correct and what is not, what is probable and what is not probable.  We will all come to a different conclusion and many of us will go back and forth trying to decide. 

I will agree that this is getting off-topic and should be put to rest.

Jibbguy,

  Most of what I wanted to say was ‘well done’ by GravityBlock. So I will just
add a few things.

First I did not say the OU research should stop because of overpopulation, or
any other reason. Personally I think that finding a way to produce energy and
replacing the oil/fossil fuel is imperative. But put things in perspective, I do not
think it will solve the ‘heavy-duty’ issues that we face here on earth.

Investigation on FE device is beneficial in order to learn physics, where modern
science failed to understand how magnetism (not electricity) work. And there is a
lot to study, since the implications of such a serious study may yield results in
many other and completely unexpected fields…..
Now, no one promise us that there is such an animal at the end of the tunnel, but
the study itself could be a fascinating journey, full of surprises. So the whole topic
we discussing on this thread is based on the fact that OU machine will be found,
which is now does not exists.

  But if we will take it even further then finding OU, and say that during this research
it will become clear that the building blocks of matter & waves or no other than
N pole & S pole individual magnets, and all of modern physics needs to be re-written.
And as a result of that many new technologies will emerge, in all fields of life, including
medical, space, computers, food, etc. etc.   It will bring some relief to human, but again,
that’s not the answer to the global issues we facing.
So we are not talking here only about an OU machine, but a whole new horizons of
Improvements - even that will not be enough……

I myself is involve in research to find the building blocks of matter & waves, and my
findings so far exceeding all expectations. But even if I could bring it to the public w/
working models, new physics, new technologies - I have no illusions about the “dent”
it could make for human kind. In other words “Giving Aspirin pill to a cancer patient”,
Is not on the same scale of healing / dealing with the real issue.

Though the search must go on.

Cheers

Quote from: gravityblock on June 16, 2009, 07:34:29 PM
Back in the biblical days, when there were no birth control methods, the prostitutes in the brothels would get pregnant.  After they delivered their babies, then they would throw their newborns into a pit to die.  Then they would get pregnant again and repeat the process.  They did this cause they couldn't support all of the children they were having due to their prostitution and promiscuous behaviors.

incorrect assumption. egyptian women used pessary's thousands of years ago. a pessary is a vaginal suppository and thousands of years ago is biblical days. the microscope's invention in the 17th century and subsequent 'discovery' of the sperm cell is not 'evidence' that the ancient egyptian women did not know the details of contraception, unless you have a viable explanation of why women would be using vaginal suppositories of acidic nature for something other than birth control.

 Though the Bible and God are very important topics, please try to stay
on (and around) the thread topic.

Thanks you.