I checked out your links, and I think I see part of your difficulty.  There is an old saying, goes something like this:

"Teach a man to think that he's thinking and he will love you, but make him really think, and he may hate you."

Some prefer that others do their thinking for them, for if they should be required to exercise previously assaulted, coerced, or simply under utilized critical thinking skills, such action registers as pain, of one kind or another, to them.

When, (not if) this world meets it's end, I will certainly not expect you to come running to me for absolution.....who am I, really?

Perhaps, though, you will attempt to run to "billy the atheist" for his take on your predicament?

Of course, there yet remains time for you to educate yourself on what is really what, and who is really who in this darkened world.

The man in the following series of videos, a high school science teacher, was once an 'atheist'.  He shares compelling evidence for what, and most importantly, Who, caused him to correct his thinking on the matter:

http://www.doesgodexist.tv/


Regards, and Blessings in Yeshua be upon you

Quote from: MasterPlaster on October 10, 2009, 06:06:57 PM
In the words of someone reporting about chemtrails: "people are too busy writing text messages to notice the chemtrails".

Where I live, as a rule we are not allowed to see the sun on a regular basis otherwise I would check the facts out for myself.

Most people I know have not got any interest in what is going on. Even when I point out to them the huge inflation in food prices does not shake them.

I know others who are totally in agreement with the eugenics program.

I know some who know about what is going on but feel too powerless to even express an opinion.

TechStuff,
All that stuff you said a few posts back, I kneeled and prayed a while ago and nothing happened and I felt very stupid and suckered.

I do believe in God the creator but I thing the rest of religion is man made.
Think like this, a local band makes some music and becomes popular and gets spotted by talent spotters. They sign on and from that point, they become a comodity. What you said about Jesus may be correct but when the Romans adopted him, it was to further their empire and not what jesus taught.

Hi MP.

There is something very suspicious about all other religions, most contain the tree of life wheel, the symbolic schematic to building a flying saucer, I study all religions so I spotted it, I can even interpret some of it but since there is a dialog of Mal opinion I keep it to my self, I do share sometimes but it is to eerie for me. some people freak me out.

I think all religions that contain the tree of life are excepted religions. just my opinion of course. but why would just about every religion contain the tree of life? even religions before Christianity? even India has a wheel of the tree of life.

maybe all religions that contain the tree of life are related by the same mediators?

I myself believe they were time travelers because the odds are greater but to each their own I guess. if they were time travelers what was their purpose?

I still believe there is a creator, but I don't believe anyone knows anything about him/her but there shouldn't be a gender. I really don't think anyone knows even a byte of info about God.

I can put all bible literature on one DVD disk from every nation or country, not much info at all. one DVD? wow. where's all the answers our father left us to prevent us from killing ourselves technological wise? or maybe he/she can't but we at this early stage of technological evolution would figure him/her out?

there is a great deal of suspicion going on here. where is he/she, why not join us in our desperate days? I know, it is some revelation, I am tired of waiting for a failed revelation. I know, he/she says they are looking at us from around the corner, but they are late!
how long will they take, 2000 years more! maybe never! of course we'd never know because we will all die and never find out the truth or is that the plot I wonder?

I am always looking for the plot, that's me, if there is a plot, I will see it! I will spend a great many hours or even days fitting a plotted puzzle together. I am also an em-path, I can feel people, if I can't feel them I will probe them until I get a feel for them, I am autistic in this area. sometimes it can work against my friendships but in the end it usually empowers my friendships.

I never tell lies, only people who are scared of something tell lies. this has been my belief since I was a child.

as far as Obama is concerned, I believe he got into somethings that were way over his head as a professional senator of Illinois, but all presidents experience what disorders that were left behind for the next President to heal. if ever.

I believe he is trying his best to appease people of this nation but then there is the opposites, nobody could ever be appeased because there are differences in everyones opinions. not everyone thinks like everyone else.

it is impossible to be a perfect president, impossible! I mean, how would you like to be president, I bet you would receive the same welcome among the peoples just as Obama, it is a very hard job, he gets very little sleep! can you or anyone handle a lack of sleep for 4 years at minimal office. being president isn't as easy as it may seem, I hope you get to be president one day, just so I can say, I told you so!

nobody else cares, all they want is action in their favor. there are over 351,000,000 favors to keep track of.

Jerry

  I'm an atheist am I? that's news to me.

another telling trait of religionists is an endless need to talk and write about
their obsession. I guess baffling them gets and keeps the sheep in line.

all sorts of interesting things probably happened in the distant past but I
doubt very much that today we should have even the slimmest expectation
that any religion has figured it out and can claim to know the 'truth'.

don't forget to bless something after reading.

Truthfully, I've never met a 'real' living atheist,  for you see, (or perhaps in the future you will)  ALL is religion.  And not a one of us is absent a 'god' in our lives.

Christ said that even one's belly can be a god.  (and boy is He right!)

For many, religion is a comfortable superstition, a fearsome habit, a social tool, or crutch.  However, the teachings of Yeshua, Jesus christ stand alone.  High above the fallible traditions of men.  If I proclaimed myself an atheist and went on tv and in public proclaiming Christ, how long would I be called an atheist? Who am I fooling?  Then why do so many look to false religious and political leaders who claim to be Christians and judge Christ and all Christians by such fakers?  That is a double standard which still exists because of the simple fact that it is easier to judge people in groups, marginalizing whole swaths of humanity by those, who by their actions, prove the hypocrisy of their affiliations.

Stick enough labels on her and we can smother the world.

I could delude you with massive amounts of evidence that TPTB, at least at the highest levels, worship the fallen one and his cohorts.  Literally thousands of youtube videos of heavy metal minions screeching their devotion to lucifer and what he represents.  (Just a single example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4syi9RjL9w )  The devil certainly seems real to them. 

I think the following should be enough to make my point as to why, above and instead of all other places, beings, or things in which I could place my faith,  I choose Yeshua, King of Kings.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7dpGWYZMDc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF9SJTPl8r0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O0KCfLqMZo 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4syi9RjL9w


Simply put, after all the miraculous things I have personally witnessed and experienced which harmonize with those of others who belong to Christ, nothing else comes close in comparison.


Blessings in Yeshua


P.S. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQh1cjZLmUo

perhaps we should add a verse into the Holy Babble..

something to the effect of:

thou shalt not preach mythology on an energy forum....

there are more appropriate places for such discussions.
i believe this thread was intended to be about the earth and moon,
not about mythologies and their followers.