@MW383,

Quote from: MW383 on October 26, 2009, 11:12:00 AM
The interception of natural earth magnetics and potential frequency of has been a large source of my latest outdoor experiments of late. Systems have been constructed and some interesting results observed. Ferrite an interesting idea too. As stated previously I have been achieving some interesting results in this area along a different approach.

In regards to soft iron, I think it is time for me to go out into my old dairy barn and grab some long carriage bolts I have out there. Barn is pre-1900 along with these bolts. Bolts I have range in size but are typically 1/2" OD by 12" long which is good enough to construct a test coil with. Regarding cotton covered copper wires; order placed. So as far as historical materials; between pre-1900 bolt and cotton covered copper wire, things are getting more antique by the minute. I do have some very old iron wire out in barn as well but I do not know if it will be enough for a decent sized coil, I'll check when returning home. Basically it is very old electric fence material, probably pre-1940's based on dating of the things it is attached to. All of this stuff was saved during recent restoration efforts being done to this building. I'll play around and see what transpires. Chances are high that there will be little interest to this audience but to satsify my own curiosity I will proceed.

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I was very interested to read you have placed an order for some cotton covered wire, would you mind if I ask how much wire you ordered and the cost? as you made reference it was 0.50 a foot in a previous post, it could be expensive, mabe they will sell you a full roll, works out less in the long run.

I agree with you implying going bigger may be better, I have held a hunch for a while about sizes.
Smaller bolts produce smaller magnetic effects whilst larger bolts produce larger magnetic effects.
So, I think, using bigger diameter bolts and wire will make it easier to make a breakthrough, once this is achieved, then its a matter of making it smaller until it ceases to operate.

I agree with you about this, that the magnetic fields interact with each other, I also know that if you have a single iron wire it has its own very weak magnetic field, when the iron wire is wound, every iron turn, interacts with the turn next to it, also to the turn below it and the turn above it, it also stands to reason when the current stops flowing the collapse of the magnetic field produces a EMF (force) the pulce rebound sets up a current flow in the copper wire turns.


 
I have some iron plastic coated wire outside I found at the local dump, about time I put it to good useage, got some 1" diameter bolts to wind it all on, this thing I want to make is going to be big, siiii.

@freepow,
I got your email, TA muchly, sent you a reply.

@Jimmy
Nice to see you here.

@all, my LED is still lit up from my EBC experiment, hurts the eyes lol tomorrow is a new day, for experiments.

jim

I dont know if this info is important or not but NS lived west of a mountain range that is rich in zinc. His location was rich in coal bordering the mountain range.
   There is also a good bit of quartz. The quartz is the pink type as if there is some iron oxide in it. at first i thought it was just dirty with red clay but it is iron oxide. The entire region of this part of the country contains what would make a battery. If at the time period NS was developing his EB there was a lot of rain for a couple years. Maybe he was just tapping a natural battery. I dont know how to check on the rain fall for the time period. Where I moved to they are just coming out of a 4 yr drought. When it rains it rains very hard and there is not much soil for it to soak into along this mountain range. The zinc in the rock beds of the rivers and streams stains the rocks black. With a little bit of elbo grease and a wire brush the rocks are white under the black coating like white marble. At least along look out mountain part of the range. The cavern operators told me the zinc runs in vanes in the fractures of the mountains. Oak trees and Pine trees are the dominant trees which are very acidic in the sense that their leaves and sap leave the soil very acidic as well as the run off. Just a first hand observation I wanted to pass on.

Quote from: Doug1 on October 27, 2009, 07:49:48 AM
I dont know if this info is important or not but NS lived west of a mountain range that is rich in zinc. His location was rich in coal bordering the mountain range.
   There is also a good bit of quartz. The quartz is the pink type as if there is some iron oxide in it. at first i thought it was just dirty with red clay but it is iron oxide. The entire region of this part of the country contains what would make a battery. If at the time period NS was developing his EB there was a lot of rain for a couple years. Maybe he was just tapping a natural battery. I dont know how to check on the rain fall for the time period. Where I moved to they are just coming out of a 4 yr drought. When it rains it rains very hard and there is not much soil for it to soak into along this mountain range. The zinc in the rock beds of the rivers and streams stains the rocks black. With a little bit of elbo grease and a wire brush the rocks are white under the black coating like white marble. At least along look out mountain part of the range. The cavern operators told me the zinc runs in vanes in the fractures of the mountains. Oak trees and Pine trees are the dominant trees which are very acidic in the sense that their leaves and sap leave the soil very acidic as well as the run off. Just a first hand observation I wanted to pass on.

Just for the record, I live about 120 miles east of Stubblefield's old farm (Murry, KY) and there are no mountains at all between Murry and my town of Bowling Green.  It is basically flat and all of the coal country is a long way off to the north east of Murry.  Others can check Google Earth on this if they like.

As a former geology major in college, I can tell you that this entire area is loaded with limestone bedrock.  It is everywhere and that is the reason there are so many caves in this region. (Mammoth cave, world's longest cave, is 25 miles to the north from me)  I never heard of any zinc in this area at all, but that does not mean it is not here.

I agree with you about the clay, the soil in this area is loaded with it and a good bit of it is red which I would agree means high iron content. Pink quartz is pink due to trace amounts of phosphate or aluminum.  Rose quartz is pink due to trace amounts of titanium, iron or manganese. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quartz)  I have seen very little pink quartz in my area but there may be more to my west, I don't know.

I still believe NS's devices worked independent of local conditions because he put on successful demonstrations in Washington and Philly.  This is my opinion.

Bill

I have an idea I have been mulling over for a little while. I may even have mentioned it, but Jim's reply jogged it awake again.
My next stubblefield coil will have plastic or varnish covering the whole thing, on both wires... - up until the last layer which will have the copper wire made bare then covered with cloth.

This should give enough galvanic influence to all the wire, since that aspect, although surely is necessary, is not a very big player in this coil.
Therefore a big galvanic current is not likely to be needed.

Then the remaining interior of the coil can be very long and wound bifilar with lots of iron wire to give the rest of the multiple effects that we should be getting.

I will first try all the suggestions from tishatang, though and not even that for a while. My handyman friend called and needs work so, on sunny days, I will be doing (d)home improvements. 

I just wanted to remember to say my idea to all those who are actively building NS coils.

thank you,

jeanna

Jeanna:

Man, if you are correct that would sure simplify winding these things.  I hope for all of us that this works.

If not, we now have a supplier of cotton covered wire which would also make things waaaay easier too.  As soon as I get the time, and a little money, I want to try this.  It has been a while since I tried an NS coil.

Bill