Quote from: Philip Hardcastle on February 16, 2011, 12:14:55 AM
Hi e2matrix,

I cannot say for anything other than the valve I used. The principle should be the same though.

I did my first tests at 220C and used a Keithley 617 electrometer. The output was 25pA with the G3 connected to the Anode and 3 pA with the G3 floating.

I then did the same at different temps.

At 550C I had 3.1uA and an open circuit voltage of 850mV, sadly the glass softened when I tried to do 600C and the thing collapsed.

I believe the best configuration to be as follows

Cathode connected to G1 and G2
Anode connected to G3

Connect all with identical wire, I use nichrome wire.

Terminate connection from the valve to a hot box that is at the same temp as the valve.

Wires then run to a room temp terminal and meter connects to that.

See photo of melted valve

Thanks for the reply and info.  That is impressive that you get 3.1ua at 850mv.  But as I suspected I would not be able to measure anything below that range as I don't have anything along the lines of an electrometer (I see used ones run in the thousands) and can't afford such.  One Fluke meter I've got will get down to tenths of a microamp so I might have a chance with that but I don't think I'd have the rest of the needed equipment (such as the isothermal bath) to set up a proper test.  I think some others around here may have access to such equipment though.  If you haven't already done so you might consider posting this info also at overunityresearch.com and energeticforum.com as I've seen some people at both those forums that seem to have access to quality lab equipment.  While I'd love to help out with crumbling the second law of TD I don't think there is much chance I can do that with what I've got.  Best of luck with this and hopefully some others here can participate in making history. 

Quick Reference Data Sheet on the E180F:

http://www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/pdf/232926/PHILIPS/E180F.html

@Philip,

I say this tube is an IR absorber that will change the blackbody IR radiation
spectrum to be less when what was measured once the tube is under electrical
load. The internal Planck IR reradiation is an effective part of the internal thermal
energy of an object. So despite any lack of any other heat outflows the internal
thermal energy of the object will have decreased over time in proportion to the
electrical load. Several watts of load would be required to actually test this
because of an objects thermal noise at these temperatures.

I don't think we need to tell any professors because they already know this.

If you disagree then it's up to you to experimentally validate it.

:S:MarkSCoffman

:S:MarkSCoffman

you are a 100% fool.

Quote from: Philip Hardcastle on February 16, 2011, 05:26:09 AM
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What is with the immediate presumption that anything new is old and any claim must be a bad measurement?
...

Occam's razor.
As long as simple usual explanations apply, no need of exotic theory.
I don't take the 2nd law of thermodynamics for unbreakable. You pretend that you succeeded with an electrical energy coming from a single heat bath. So you have to present an evidence as strong as extraordinary is the claim. With µA which are well below possible experimental errors, you are far from attaining the goal.