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Electrical igniter for gas engines A keystone to understanding by Magluvin

Started by Magluvin, March 01, 2010, 01:30:50 AM

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Magluvin

Well, Huston, we have lift of. Forget about the invisible losses and enjoy the show. ;]

I have a way of coming up with things for some reason, and here we go.

I love my mind, and I can keep my feet. ;]

We are going with woopys method of using a cap as the source. Both the source cap and receiver are 10uf for this test.

The source is charged to 1000v, for purposes of Big Show.
And we have the recycle diode in place.

1 The 1000v cap is charged

2 The switch is closed

3 We wait till the receiver reaches 10v  yes 10v

4 we open the switch and the recycle diode takes over to continue charging the receiver with the flywheel.

The outcome

The 1000v source cap is now 990v

The receiver, being cut from the source at 10v, reached 132v!!!

And this is the best part. We only have to replace 10v worth into the source cap to fill it up again. Not replace a complete 1000v worth at 10uf. Is that a savings?
I think so. It may be easier than if empty. Dunno. losses may be behind us here.

I have to get together a portion of the circuit that cuts the switch at the desired cutoff point now. It is imperative.

Now cutoff at 10v may not be optimum. Why I have stuck with cutting it off at source voltage is beyond me and in the past. It may become more eff at 5v, or 23.4v, ill do the work to find out, but we have increased our gain by many folds here.

I think were back folks.  ;]

Mags

Magluvin

I redid the test at 5v cutoff and the output was 119v on the receiver

Then I did a cutoff at 1.2v and the receiver got 43.22. the source was reduced to 998.8v   This is a beautiful thing.


I did a cutoff at .2v  got 17.5v in receiver and source was down to 999.8v.

Well, I wont speculate any further. Back to work   =]

Mags

Magluvin

here is the circuit in the sim and the code.

http://falstad.com/circuit/   for the applet

Copy code below and import into the applet from the file menu.

$ 1 5.0E-6 0.05817778142098084 50 5.0 43
s 384 80 448 80 0 1 true
v 448 352 448 80 0 0 40.0 1000.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
r 384 352 448 352 0 0.01
c 384 352 384 80 0 9.999999999999999E-6 0.0010000000000002418
r 384 80 304 80 0 2.0
l 304 80 224 80 0 0.22 9.31524329736314E-19
c 224 80 224 352 0 1.0E-5 0.0010000000000000425
d 224 352 304 352 1 0.805904783
s 304 352 384 352 0 1 true
d 304 352 304 256 1 0.805904783
w 336 144 384 80 0
w 304 256 304 176 0
w 304 176 336 144 0
o 6 1 0 291 0.009765625 9.765625E-5 0 -1
o 3 1 0 291 0.009765625 9.765625E-5 1 -1

Close the switch on the right till the cap is fully charged to 1000v.

Then close the switch on the bottom till the desired cutoff is reached.

You can lower the speed of the sim at the upper right slider so you can see in the first scope shot when to release the switch at a particular voltage.

The second scope shot shows the 1000v cap and what is left in it after the cutoff.

Just hit reset at the top right to start over to clear the cap values to empty.   =]
Mags

Magluvin

You will be able to see the femf caused by the flywheel effect. It may seem like the flywheel spins for a long time. The sim is running slow enough that we get to see this action.

Bemf happens very quick. So it is a fresh thing to see the time that the freewheel goes in this application.

Tesla was the man.  ;]


I think having the 1kv really gets the wheel going as compared to 10v.

I did a 21.6v cutoff,  and got 203.36v out.  The 1kv cap always equals 1kv - cutoff.  It really gets hard to believe there is a 50% loss happening. The sim does not show a loss such as this. In other tests that I did last night.  What if the calculations are not presenting what really is?   hmmm. We may have a win win situation. Me thinks it.

1  10uf cap at 10v     10v/10ohm load=1A  10vx1A=10W

2 caps in parallel,   20uf at 5v  5v/5ohm=1A  5vx1A=5W  but with 2 times the capacitance.  I see no loss here. Not 50%  Crazy aint it?    ;)

So why 50% loss from battery to cap as the physics site stated?   ;)

I think we are in a much better position than we were last night.   ;D


=]

Mags

forest

Mags

From your circuit I can get above 730V in output cap while source cap level down to 600V. Always above 1kV when taking sum.
Evidently there is gain and gain depends on the time when we cutoff connection to source cap - meaning flywheel effect depends on resonance between inductor and output cap and the period of charging them from source.
Resonant energy systems.

I have one idea to test.