Hi Scratch,

Thanks for that.

Absolutely, the guys are overcomplicating what should be a straightforward build.

I am sure, much can be learned from the adams.rar file posted by romero.

Most importantly, we need to STOP our conventional thinking.

I must tell you that the waveform you replicated, was decribed to me by romero as being
scoped across one only coil from a pair.

From Romero (June 25th) -

"One advice, forget about that wave I posted, that came from only one coil from a pair.Each coil and pair of coils will have a different wave to make them working without affecting the system.You will realize how hard it is no match them... hundreds of hours I spent for that and even if I will be in the position to explain most of the people will giveup shorthly as usual."


Good luck with further experimentation.

Kindest Regards, Penno

Heres the recent quote from Romero:

"Each coil and pair of coils will have a different wave to make them working without affecting the system.You will realize how hard it is "no" (he mean "to" - typo?) match them... hundreds of hours I spent for that and even if I will be in the position to explain most of the people will giveup shorthly as usual."

to me this means the airgap between the top and bottom coils and the rotor magnets needs to be different distances - say for example 2mm airgap at top and 5mm at bottom (a complete made-up guess these numbers are) and I will bet the tolerance is 1/4mm and when you find right ratio of airgap to top and bottom, it takes off in a resonance-gain in voltage wihtout affecting rotor's rotation...then you got to go around and do each pari of coils one by one...hundreds of hours adjusint  means hundreds of hours adjsuting! - it should only take one hour to set the airgap at the usual 1.5mm top and bottom...so anywyas this is my idea/theory of what it is going to take to get one of these machines to loop.

One thing Romero did prove, is that when you make a looping amchine and take it public, all hell breaks loose on you like you cant beleive.
Same thing happened to BrianP and RobertM and Hector (back in 80's)  with their loopers

when I first visited the Mullers around 2001,  they told me there were some creeps who came around one week before me,  to see the big 16 magnet hockey puck size magnets demo machine, and they threatened to kill them if they didnt tell them how to do everything.

Instead of talking and quotating and theorizing, someone should start posting specific know-how (including Romero) about how to succefully operate this device into the OU region.

Quote from: baroutologos on July 16, 2011, 02:25:43 AM
Instead of talking and quotating and theorizing, someone should start posting specific know-how (including Romero) about how to succefully operate this device into the OU region.

I agree 100%.

Bill

Quote from: baroutologos on July 16, 2011, 02:25:43 AM
Instead of talking and quotating and theorizing, someone should start posting specific know-how (including Romero) about how to succefully operate this device into the OU region.

No I want to thank Penno and Konehead for that quote, I did not read that before.
Maybe people should experiment more their selves and not give up so quickly.
Maybe all know-how is already posted but people have no patience and give up to soon and blame others because it is not working at the first time.

scratchrobot