Quote from: jan.kolar on January 22, 2012, 02:29:49 PM
In his last interview Rossi mentioned issue of stability. Specifically he said that device is absolutely stable up to temperatures around 120 celsius degress. I speculate what would happen if some electric grid was turned off by blackout. There would be no energy to drive circulation pump to sufficiently cool the device. He only mentioned that there is no way to explode like atomic bomb because liquid nicked would stop the whole reaction.

@jan.kolar:
There have been steam driven devices and systems long before the arrival of the grid.  There are safety relief valves (even your water heater in your home has to have one) which open up automatically when a safe pressure has been exceeded.  They do NOT require any electricity to function as they are mechanical devices activated by pressure alone (overpressure) so a blackout would have no affect at all on their safe operation. 

I do not know for sure if the E-Cat is equipped with these overpressure valves or one of many other types of devices used in steam systems (like rupture discs) but they would have to have one of these aforementioned devices or they would not be granted a U.L. certification that they have already applied for.

Chess 

@Everyone:
In this huge excerpt, Rossi gives the state in the U.S. where his production plants are going to operate in and his reasoning for keeping the price as low as possible:

"In Florida. And at this point, the very important issue now for many reasons is to push the price of an E-Cat very, very down. Because this technology must be for all. And I want that a ten kilowatt E-Cat costs around $500 dollars. To make this we must absolutely robotize and engineer very well the manufacturing lines, because you know, to compete... because once we will have defused our devices, our E-Cats, in the market, we will be subject to copies, intentional copies and competition. And to compete against, also because yes, we have patents pending, but to be sure that the reverse engineering will not put in jeopardy our production, we had to make it the best way to fight against the competition is to have a very low price. This is the effort that now we are making, because I foresee that we will have to compete against production made in China, and we have China or other countries where, of course the work... We cannot compete against that kind of system, social system that makes the work have costs that are unsustainable for us. So we have to fight against them with best, better engineering in the production lines. Now our efforts are passed from the technology of the E-Cat which is mature and stable right now, to the engineering system. Because if not, we have won the battle of the technology, we risk to go to lose the war of the competition. Which is why now we have to work very hard on the engineering. And we are doing it. There is so we will be able to put in the market in a very cheap way, and you will be surprised from the very high level of easiness of use of the E-Cat. We are making it a very.. a very good... engineering. Sorry, maybe I have been too long, but you know, I got, I have, been got from, the floor of what we are doing."

Here Rossi goes into additional detail on his plans to deal with reverse engineering (cheap clones/copies):

"We must foresee reverse engineer and to put knock out the reverse engineering that will come from, from countries that do not respect the standards of welfare of workers that we respect in the USA. We have to be prepared so that it will be impossible to beat us under the economic point of view. If not, we will make the end of the companies like Solyndra or the other one, that you know started making solar panels, but then arrived the Chinese and they have been put out of business. And you know, we have to study very well those cases in history, because we must foresee what they will do. And we must anticipate this war, because this is a war, and we want to win it."

Rossi addresses a question about the mysterious catalyst:

"The importance is substantial because without them the E-Cat does not work. You know, many other technologies based on nickel and hydrogen tried to work, but they did not work. And this is why we have to cover them. Of course once we will have millions of pieces in the market it will not be very very difficult for a laboratory to understand which are these catalysts, but at that point, as I said before, we will be so well engineered with a production system that the reverse engineering will not be enough to compete with us. Because after that there will be the necessity to compete with us. And so, I hope we will take an advantage."

Rossi fields a question asked about the electrical input:

"I am very sorry. I am very sorry, but this is a confidential issue. Yes, we use... I can say you this... That we use a system that is similar to what happens in the martial arts, oriental martial arts. Sorry, my pronunciation is a bit shaky. The effect is based on the fact the forces that theoretically should fight against us, and I mean the Coulomb forces, are used to help us. This is the principle. And this is the issue. This effect is an effect where we have turned to our advantage what theoretically has to be to our disadvantage. That is all I can tell you my friend." -- Andrea Rossi


Chess

Chess, if Rossi has all these ECats running in his rooms, or wherever, why is he always WEARING A HEAVY COAT when he's showing his lab and his ECats?
In every source EXCEPT "Rossi says", all the output from his ECats is dumped down the drain. Nothing is ever done with the heat generated, not even running it through a simple steam radiator to heat up the room so that the journalists and scientists can take off their HEAVY COATS.


And please... get your calculator and tell me, using Rossi's numbers, how much 1 MW worth of domestic 10 kW ECats will cost me. Then tell me why anyone would buy a single 1MW unit at its reported price.

Next... tell me why he's not getting instantly rich on the isotope enrichment process he claims to have.

Then.... a bit more complicated.... figure out how he can sell a replacement cartridge with enriched nickel isotopes in it for ten dollars. You can't even buy a bag of dog food for that... and a dogfood bag doesn't have to contain hydrogen or toxic nano-nickel powder in a non-reverse-engineerable form.

I'll be checking here periodically... in the FIRST FREE ENERGY DEVICE REACHES MARKET IN OCTOBER thread.... even though it's way past October and nothing has reached any market yet. The only unit Rossi even CLAIMS to have sold is sitting in his... COLD... laboratory, as can be seen in the latest video.

Quote from: TinselKoala on January 22, 2012, 07:51:58 PM
Chess, if Rossi has all these ECats running in his rooms, or wherever, why is he always WEARING A HEAVY COAT when he's showing his lab and his ECats?
In every source EXCEPT "Rossi says", all the output from his ECats is dumped down the drain. Nothing is ever done with the heat generated, not even running it through a simple steam radiator to heat up the room so that the journalists and scientists can take off their HEAVY COATS.

@TinselKoala:
Here's one of the quotes from Rossi concerning continuous testing of the E-Cat to heat rooms:

"The facility that used the very first generation of E-Cat for a couple of years to heat, the room etc, is the facility that I sold to finance this production. And that particular facility has been closed, but E-Cats are right now working in rooms and houses of ours. Just to test them in continuous. So we have E-Cats that are working in continuous right now, just to test them." -- Andrea Rossi

As far as his facilities are concerned; he could have been using the devices to heat the private offices for all anyone knows. 

I must have missed the videos made inside Rossi's private residence.  Could you send me a copy of this video or post a link to it here?  I personally have never been inside any of Rossi's homes or seen a video from inside them either.  Since you are sure he is lying about using his own product inside his own home, then I'm sure you must have been inside to gather your conclusive evidence.  I did not know this before your last posting.  Sorry.

I will be checking back to settle every question put forth after you have had a chance to respond to my replies one at a time.


Regards,

Chess

John Michell has written a book on the e-cat. I know him personally. If he says it works - it works.