see3d,
he has one, the replicate would also have one.
Of course,  my car has a battery.
Coincidence ?

  Johnny

edit. will someone put that 2 thousand to work please ?

give it up wayne

I've been thinking about how to best demonstrate the relative lift of the ZED and realized, the best would be visual, mathematical and physical comparison with regular lifts:
You can see the visual comparison in the attached image (the pod is of course full of air - it is drawn as full for visibility reasons).
As you are going to see, in all compared devices, the pressure exerted on the pod is the same (those with the pod +h2·ϱ·g) => every device has the same input requirements: fluid at the same pressure. What is also demonstrated is that multiple risers just increase complexity and that just one tall water column is needed to generate the ~same pressure and lift (with the ~same input).
To precharge the devices, we pump-in air at the required pressure and thus displacing water; or, in other words, increasing the potential energy of the device and storing it in the water column(s).

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ϱ(water) = 999,7026 kg/m^3 (at 10 °C);
g = 9,80665 m/s^2;
h1 = 2m;
h2 = 1.5m;
A = 1 m^2;

hydrostatic pressure: p = ϱ·g·h = h·9803.73350229;

ZED:

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p1 = 2·9803.73350229 = 19607.46700458 Pa (19.61 kPa);
p2 = p1 + 1.5·9803.73350229 = 34313.067258015 Pa (34.31 kPa);

Lift from pressure: Fp = p1·A + p2·0.9·A - p1·0.9·A = p1·0.1·A + p2·0.9·A = 32842.5072326715 N (32.84 kN);
Lift from pod: Fb = ϱ·g·V = 9803,73350229·0.8·A·h2 = 11764.480202748 N (11.76 kN);
F = 44606,9874354195 N (44.61 kN);

Hydraulic lift / hydro-pneumatic lift:

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p = (1.5 + 2)·9803.73350229 = 34313.067258015 Pa (34.31 kPa);
F = p·A = p = 34.31 kN;

Hydro-pneumatic lift with a pod:

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p = 34.31 kPa;
Fp = 34.31 kN;
Fb = ϱ·g·V = 9803.73350229·0.9·A·h2 = 13235.0402280915 N (13.24 kN);
F = 46077.547460763 N (46.08 kN);

The weight of air is ignored - as it is also ignored with ZED. It is only approx. 8.28N anyway.

  If you guxs want to do a simpldd test, get a garden hose. All yott need to do is adjust the nozzle. The pressure in the hose does not change, how dver it,s flow rate does whem
you adjust the nozzle.

@micro, it,s old wayne and friends saying it,s a working over unty device.
such claims put the burden  of proof on those saying they have done it.

Quote from: johnny874 on June 20, 2012, 11:22:17 PM
   see3d,
he has one, the replicate would also have one.
Of course,  my car has a battery.
Coincidence ?

  Johnny

edit. will someone put that 2 thousand to work please ?

As has been stated, a simple model to demonstrate OU [not a self runner] would not need a battery .


                                              CHECK LIST
                                                                          JOHNNY`S CAR                        WAYNE`S  MACHINE
Battery fitted?                                                            Yes                                              Yes
Is battery charged by the machine ?                              Yes                                              Yes
Is the battery the actual main power source?                   No                                               No
If you removed the battery, and made no modifications,
would the machine still function?                                    No                                                 No


What a coincidence, as you said. Give it up, Johnny.


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