Quote from: Red_Sunset on November 02, 2012, 09:14:50 AM
Xaverius, 
When 1000 people jump of the roof,  do not just do the same thing.   You can stand on your own feet and make your own assessment and decision.  Wayne never told you to believe him, he wanted you discover for yourself what it is all about. That is why you haven't seen any complete "this is how it works", only guidance that allows the thinking men to discover the new frontier.

Seamus will blindly follow, he is entitled to that (neither is anybody saying that the wise men are wrong), but that is just not the whole story.  Can we "think and reason", that is the key to advancement and that is the reason he keeps very quite regarding Message #2789 & 2846. He appears to have no clue and prefers to hide behind dark sunglasses covered with the dust of two centuries.  We do get wiser in time, this leads to progress.

For the fence sitters, the proof on the pudding is near !

Wow, you think Seamus is the one blindly following?  That's some serious irony!

As for the 1000 people jumping off the roof, I'm sure it's fine if you turn down gravity first or activate the lateral gravitational function.

Mmmmm..... Proof pudding.....  Serve it up, buddy!  Let's see it!

Quote from: DiscerningDave on November 02, 2012, 10:12:06 AM
Wow, you think Seamus is the one blindly following?  That's some serious irony!
As for the 1000 people jumping off the roof, I'm sure it's fine if you turn down gravity first or activate the lateral gravitational function.
Mmmmm..... Proof pudding.....  Serve it up, buddy!  Let's see it!

Discerning Dave,
I am sure that Seamus >>isn't<< blind in everything and I am not making a case that he doesn't have a understandable ground to stand on. To contradict more than 100yrs of the best science brains is not easy, neither is there any known occurrence of this phenomena in nature.
The case I am making is that he doesn't make any "think & reason" case, that makes him only only good for throwing the book at a problem.  That approach is of no benefit in this forum or for this topic that already transgresses that boundary.

You might laugh with the lateral gravitational function mentioned in a previous post because you didn't understand its meaning and nobody explained it. It is not a literal function, neither a horizontal gravity manifestation, rather a result effect. 
From what I came to know is that the proof on the pudding will demonstrated in a different flavor than you would expect and will demonstrate the lateral gravitational function.

Quote from: Red_Sunset on November 02, 2012, 09:14:50 AM
Xaverius, 
When 1000 people jump of the roof,  do not just do the same thing.   You can stand on your own feet and make your own assessment and decision.  Wayne never told you to believe him, he wanted you discover for yourself what it is all about. That is why you haven't seen any complete "this is how it works", only guidance that allows the thinking men to discover the new frontier.
...
For the fence sitters, the proof on the pudding is near !

RIIIIGGGGGGHHHHHTTTTTT.....THAT"S why we haven't seen a "this is how it works" or validation or pre-validation.

I for one prefer my proof inside of my pudding.

From MrWaynesBrain dated Oct 29:

QuoteI spoke with Mark this morning regarding time lines, and travel arrangements - we have selected a prevalidation member to come this weekend if we are ready and Mark happens to be locked into a conference or is traveling. This member will visit us and then report to Mark, at that point a decision will be made if we need to arrange schedules and add more data collection, or if Mark can arrange a return. To be very clear, we will not rush things - we will do what is in the best interests of our long term goals, the temporary alternate is just preplanning for contingencies.

That would be THIS WEEKEND, then, right? Today is Friday. IF they are ready, a "prevalidation member" will come and see a self-running device that runs, producing useful work output, with NO INPUT, for as long as you like, THIS WEEKEND, over the next three days.

RIGHT?

And it appears that the animated illustration of a Zed system doesn't really represent anything that they have actually built:

QuoteIf you have not seen our home page lately - I have posted a 2D model of one of our planned Beta Models, it gives a pretty good insight to the function of our ZED technology.

Like fishing for eels with a coarse net, this is.

[quote author=TinselKoala link=topic=10596.msg342646#msg342646 date=135188112

And it appears that the animated illustration of a Zed system doesn't really represent anything that they have actually built:


  I think that Wayne or RSS or someone else stated that the animation was a previous prototype model that is no longer being regarded for development.  That's the way I understood it, someone please correct me if I'm wrong.  I am assuming we should hear about any validation process within the next few days.  It should be interesting to see what develops after that........