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Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".

Started by Farmhand, April 21, 2013, 09:00:24 AM

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MileHigh

OMG, separated at birth from Eric Dollard!!!  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEJtajaRj_s

QuoteBob Pease discusses an analog computer circuit a simple six-op-amp circuit to make an analog computer that represents the familiar problem of forced, damped harmonic motion. It simulates the motion of a car over its wheel, when stimulated by a "bump."

OMG, I remember doing that lab!  You set up the analog computer to model the car's response to the bump in the road but you change the time variable so that the analog computer computes the response slowed down in time.  You had to record the variables with a good old fashioned strip chart recorder and then crunch the numbers.  Of course the critical variable to play with was the damping factor variable.

Farmhand

To demonstrate the voltage affecting the frequency thing will not really require a series connected bifiar coil,
the same effect is seen in all coils to a degree and I might be able to show it with a function generator at different
amplitude settings of minimum and maximum, the trick will be to find the right coil so that the effect is the most pronounced.

Can't say for sure until I try. Still thinkin

jbignes5





Well milehigh,


your true colors show brightly. It is now about ridicule and taking things way out of context. Even this guy says that the analogue computing stuff was not close at all. In fact he said there were things not modeled in this example and says the ideal is not worth much at all.


Why must you make fun of which you do not understand? Why can't you do the experiments for yourself? Obviously you choose to keep yourself in ignorance about this process including the analogue computing Eric chose to analyse the longitudinal energy transfer as opposed to the traditional transverse wave.


You tend to draw conclusions that are not there and ignore the obvious when it is there. You listen to video's like this from a bunch of salesmen. BUY BUY BUY. There is no value in this mentality. They are trying to sell their products and nothing more.


WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO SELL?

Lets look at what happens when people actually replicate the experiments with honesty and with out all the other junk pilled on:

http://pesn.com/2013/07/23/9602345_Defkalion-LENR-Demo_Scientifically-Impressive_Notwithstanding_Glitches/

This is just an example of really replicating something and using real measurements and data collection procedures. No amount of political sabotage or fudging of the math or even ridicule will stop us anymore. We will go on and we will succeed.

MileHigh

Jbignes5:

I don't know what you mean when you talk about ridicule.  Because I made a reference to Muppets?  Where is your sense of humour?

You would have to be more specific about your negative reference about the analog computing stuff because it's a very real and useful tool.  I did not watch the whole Texas Instruments clip so if you are talking about that I can't comment.

You are taking exception to that Texas Instruments clip with Bob Pease and his big bushy beard?  Why?  Because they dare work for a company that produces goods and services that have made the world a better place?

For what it's worth the person doing the selling and the person that has the burden of proof on his shoulders is you.  You are the one making the fantastic claims, not me.  As far as Defkalion goes, if LENR eventually gets fully vetted and is real that will be a great thing.  However, it's not a "free energy" system as some people might believe.

I posted some good solid information about real stuff and you seem to be up in arms which is strange from my perspective.

MileHigh

jbignes5

Quote from: MileHigh on July 24, 2013, 09:40:12 AM
Jbignes5:

I don't know what you mean when you talk about ridicule.  Because I made a reference to Muppets?  Where is your sense of humour?

You would have to be more specific about your negative reference about the analog computing stuff because it's a very real and useful tool.  I did not watch the whole Texas Instruments clip so if you are talking about that I can't comment.

You are taking exception to that Texas Instruments clip with Bob Pease and his big bushy beard?  Why?  Because they dare work for a company that produces goods and services that have made the world a better place?

For what it's worth the person doing the selling and the person that has the burden of proof on his shoulders is you.  You are the one making the fantastic claims, not me.  As far as Defkalion goes, if LENR eventually gets fully vetted and is real that will be a great thing.  However, it's not a "free energy" system as some people might believe.

I posted some good solid information about real stuff and you seem to be up in arms which is strange from my perspective.

MileHigh


Everything you say about anything that is not up your alley includes ridicule. Reread your posts from a point of view that you did not write the post. Line after line of ridicule and bashing what you don't understand. It's clear.


Then you post links to videos that you admit you never watched fully. Why? Whats the point?


I don't take exception to their clip if you utilize their system and are in the market for op amps and the likes. But it is a sales tool and nothing much more then that.


As for fantastical claims, prove they are. So far you have done nothing to prove anything about this coil, your problem with us discussing this coil is just that, YOUR problem. That is your perspective and that is your problem, not ours.


As for evidence about the bifilar coil there is clear evidence, both video and experimental, that there is indeed something special about this version of this coil. Even if, in your bench tests had other results. This is solely due to the problem of DC. DC is not a way to test this coil. In fact the patent states AC and if you further take into account the direction Tesla went in after creating this AC system, impulses would be greatly enhanced by the coils design. Impulses of a one way direction are very powerful and would benefit from this type of capacitance increase in it's very design. Plus I am betting the current loop that this design incorporates is self accelerating in some way. I'm leaning towards the compressor type device. One phase drives another phase and wraps around to the next phase. Like trying to get more traction from a rope. Loop the rope just once and now you have more traction. Since the impulses are of a one way character there will be little resistance from self induction. This creates a great movement in one direction only other then ohm losses of the wire. In most cases one can further reduce the losses by paralleling the coils like resistors then. With the addition of oil this would create the perfect setup for the Cap/Coil. Not only does it reduce breakdown by excluding air it allows for a cooling method to boot.

My first experiment will be along these lines.

I have decided to first look at the singular coil in oil. Then start adding layer after layer of coils. Each layer will tell a story I am betting and this process is not gonna be easy to record. I will try my best to show my results and the procedures I am using to keep and analyze the data. I doubt the first coil will be anything special because size does matter. The amount of winding necessary is minimum 500-1000 turns. Thats a lot of coil building. I will have to make up a jig to wind the coil properly. Another aspect will be how do i do this so the coil can be immersed in oil. I'm thinking a backing like Tesla used with the very large coils he would play with. A sort of strut spoke system with double sticky tape to hold the wire to the strut.

Let me give you some clues about researching. One is know your topic. Two is define a way to look at an inventor like Tesla from a time perspective. One invention leads to the other and all of his inventions do this. One leads to another. Why would a man who likes to tinker with lightning bolts work his way through fluidic machines? Then back to a new form of energy like longitudinal pressures? It is all related, like he was trying to prove a fundamental aspect we missed. A fundamental aspect that crosses the divides and unifies all of existence. The key aspect.

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