Quote from: xenophed on February 11, 2014, 07:34:50 AM
Not the same the secondary coil you attach the two inside wires together  bifilar coil 50X greater potential. leaves 4 wires on two primary coils when we charge first coil it induces a opposite field in second (by means of induction) the transistor is then switched off and the other tuned on I do not fight the collapse  BUT amplify it  the hookup on this coil MUST BE OPPOSITE the first this can be checked by applying power one  way you will drop 100~150% power use no load maybe this print will make it easier to understand

Sounds like a simple inverter to me, switch one primary one way then switch the other primary the other way, the output is AC from the other winding/s. That is old hat.

As Milehigh said. Can you show us a wave form diagram please ? If it is different to how I described. And some in out figures, the out figures should be easy if you have a DMM that can handle the frequency or a  two channel scope.

Cheers

Quote from: dieter on February 11, 2014, 06:03:08 AM
It wasn't about one wire transmission being something special, just the lack of a 2nd pole of the output.


What you (naysayers) quickly seem to miss is, that we have certain conditions here that are far from conventional thinking: a flipflop that utilizes the bemf to be added to an alternating resonance, causing high stresses when the standing waves collapse and recombine mirrored in a speed that's forced by an easy driver induction, resulting in pseudo AC that is forced into that one wire (where some capacity must exist, most likely in C 1 and C2).


Interesting that other people had similar things experienced, with resonant coils at electrical power levels


Please give some specific details, I believe many people would immediately help you to verify this by replication.


Again the coils, one of you, please specify, I read in the blog they are trifilar, later it says 8 wireends... wtf.


I also don't see how the 6 or 8 ends are connected in the cirquit since on the diagram each coil has only 2 ends.


Size of the coils, wire diameter, number of turns, diameter of core. Capacity of C, just roughly the dimension, and what L3 exactly is.


I had some time to test and confirm this, but I won't start without specfic details.


I have no pair of pnp and npns around (and had to drive 2 hours to buy some), but I've got a pair of lm741 op amps, silly question, could I use them instead?


And is there a link to that sparkgap version? I have a 3vdc>1500vdc stepup element from a mosquito killer, so I could do some tests without the transistors.
How would such a sparkgap flipflop look?
Anyhow, back to the topic.

Oh well in that case have a look at these. The output voltage of that transformer can be as high as 860 volts at resonance with all the secondaries in series. The way it was wired in the video it was producing about 400 volts or so with only half of the secondaries in use. About 24 kHz or so. That transformer has a total of 12 windings on it. The transformer  has two primaries consisting of four windings in each, so eight windings for the primaries and the two opposite secondaries are in series which is half the secondaries, there is a second output the same..

At about 3:50 into the video I switch to 24 Khz for the one wire "natural medium return" lighting effects.

I also get a shock from the active line output, so if you want to see an opinion sayer get a shock and have a laugh at me it's there. Lucky it was 24 kHz, When it's at 50/60 Hz I would be much more careful. Or I would be seriously injured or dead.

One wire lighting effects from regular transformer-converter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uGj7uQOOMA

One wire power draw.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXE7z6UAYSw

Cheers

P.S. With all the secondaries in parallel the transformer can output several hundred Watts AC, it is powered by a 12 volt battery.

By the way the naysayer stuff is factually incorrect. More like opinion sayers. Most of the time it is "correct opinion sayers".

Edited to correct the voltage of the outputs. And applied frequency. THe experiment was some time ago and I had to watch the video myself to get the voltage and frequency correct.

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And is there a link to that sparkgap version? I have a 3vdc>1500vdc stepup element from a mosquito killer, so I could do some tests without the transistors.
How would such a sparkgap flipflop look?
Anyhow, back to the topic.

My flyswatter on a flyback via spark gap  lights 40 w of 8 5pcs led lamps   in parallel   with   6 250 v ac mylar caps 

Xenophed:

Sorry, but what you attached was not a timing diagram.  You have to identify the nodes or current branches in your circuit and show the voltages and/or currents and make it real.  I have attached some simple timing diagrams that I found online.  If you had a scope you could investigate your circuit and do the same.

In my opinion your description of how your circuit runs is just a guess.  It's an oscillator with a feedback mechanism to sustain the oscillation.  There is no resonance at play, rather it has an operating frequency that is determined by the component values.  There is a huge difference between an operating frequency and resonance.  For example, a joule thief circuit does not exhibit resonance, nor does a 555 timer circuit exhibit resonance.  Also, like I stated before, there is no magic associated with resonance.  Your description of how your circuit runs is vague at best and it is not credible.  You need a scope to figure out how it actually works and to make a real-world timing diagram.  Then you have to understand what the timing diagram is showing you so that you can understand the mechanism for the oscillation.

In the end, you still have what I said before:  You have a two-transistor oscillator that will cause an AC flux to flow in the transformer core.  The third winding drives a load.  The value of the load resistance will determine how much AC power you extract from the changing flux in the transformer core.  The more AC power that you extract from the changing flux in the transformer core, the more of a drain you put on the oscillator circuit.  That increased drain on the oscillator circuit will result in the oscillator circuit drawing more power from the battery.

If you can make good measurements you will be able to determine how much power is drawn from the battery and how much power is transferred into the load resistor.  The power burnt off in the load resistor will be less than the power that is drawn from the battery.  The difference between the two is the measurement for how much power is burnt off in the oscillator circuit itself as waste heat.

MileHigh

In stumbling around some other ideas today I came across this info which Floyd "Sparky" Sweet (well known for his Vacuum Triode Amplifier) was studying and was likely a part of his fascinating creation.  The statement ""An alternate explanation for the current gain in the UDT is to consider each secondary winding as acting as the primary winding for the other secondary winding when an output current is drawn because the two secondary windings generate geometrically opposing fields."   The UDT as describe here: http://www.hyiq.org/Research/Details?Name=A%20Free-Energy%20Device  provides more power out than is consumed at input.   Perhaps something similar is happening here with xenophed's coil and circuit.   
Also of interest is that today the news update from HyIQ is he believes he has cracked the riddle of Floyd Sweet's VTA.   See www.hyiq.org